SBRJohn, please explain this play by RickeySteve in the poker room

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  • blackbeSSt
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-06-08
    • 9398

    #71
    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
    you might be right its to piss people off. but i think hit n runs/disconnects usually happen because its scared money. when i mentioned people disconnecting on sbr, i think it went up 100%, so i better not mention how to cheat
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    Last edited by blackbeSSt; 01-09-12, 12:38 PM.
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    • TheCentaur
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-28-11
      • 8108

      #72
      ok it's a new day and I've settled down. I get really paranoid when I'm on a losing streak, but N. Illinois came through for me last night, so i'm doing better.

      Screw him though, i'm still not playing him anymore.
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      • big0mar
        SBR MVP
        • 01-09-09
        • 3374

        #73
        You said it yourself. Guy is a winning gambler
        [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

        [/B][/B][SIZE=1][URL="http://forum.sbrforum.com/sbr-points/490161-points-available-loan.html#post4633361"][/URL][/SIZE]
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        • juuso
          SBR MVP
          • 10-04-05
          • 2896

          #74
          You're reading too much into it. I'm pretty sure average level of SBR-poker play is quite a bit lower than any poker room with real money. Ricky Steve has probably earned good amount of points playing very agressively in the room. That play may have been -EV against you, but overall, if his point stack is growing he'll know what he's doing. There's different strategy to points and low skill level opponents than it is in real stake real money table. Much faster to make coin with high stake coin-flips with modest edge than conservative grinding.
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          • CarpeDime
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-01-09
            • 7873

            #75
            Originally posted by iifold
            Who is rickysteve?
            liberal atheist socialist scum
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            • SBR_John
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-12-05
              • 16471

              #76
              Good thread. I've played RSteve as much as anybody heads up. I learned a lot from playing him but the lessons were not free.

              He is good at mixing his bluffs and good hands so you are not sure when he is playing ahead or bluffing. Its still poker and you can beat him if you are prepared to call all ins with an ace high occasionally. Even if you have to reload you will cause him to alter his style because now he is not sure when you are pushing with a pig n a poke. But if you are only going to be aggressive when you are in the lead he will know that and bail when you're loaded, the rest of the time he's stealing your blinds and early soft bets.
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              • BeerDog99
                SBR MVP
                • 09-22-10
                • 4894

                #77
                Originally posted by SBR_John
                Good thread. I've played RSteve as much as anybody heads up. I learned a lot from playing him but the lessons were not free.

                He is good at mixing his bluffs and good hands so you are not sure when he is playing ahead or bluffing. Its still poker and you can beat him if you are prepared to call all ins with an ace high occasionally. Even if you have to reload you will cause him to alter his style because now he is not sure when you are pushing with a pig n a poke. But if you are only going to be aggressive when you are in the lead he will know that and bail when you're loaded, the rest of the time he's stealing your blinds and early soft bets.
                Dam, John you are getting good!

                One other thing that needs to be noted.... You have to have the bankroll to play at this level. If you playing with your entire points balance, ricky and few other players have an edge on you.

                As Rudy correctly noted, if you are playing with scared money, that is an issue that is exploitable.
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                • TheCentaur
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-28-11
                  • 8108

                  #78
                  GUYS! He called all in!
                  Once this happens, strategy is irrelevant, aggression is irrelevant, bankroll and stacksize are irrelevant, strategy or intimidation are irrelevant. Once he makes this call he is simply saying I think my hand is better than yours. What I don't get is how any winning player can decide calling with A8 is +ev here considering the pot odds.
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                  • mikemca
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-10-10
                    • 10047

                    #79
                    Originally posted by TheCentaur
                    GUYS! He called all in! Once this happens, strategy is irrelevant, aggression is irrelevant, bankroll and stacksize are irrelevant, strategy or intimidation are irrelevant. Once he makes this call he is simply saying I think my hand is better than yours. What I don't get is how any winning player can decide calling with A8 is +ev here considering the pot odds.


                    When you have a hyper aggressive image and raise what seems like every pot you are going to get players that get fed up and ship ATC or at least some ranges where A8 is way ahead. Most wouldn't even put KK or QQ in your range figuring you would want to extract value with them so if you give a range of 22 thru jj and even some kings like KJ+ plus some of the time air its not really a crazy call.Also its a ring game so the fact that he called all in doesn't matter like it would in a tournament.
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                    • Double Bogey
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-24-10
                      • 1465

                      #80
                      Originally posted by TheCentaur
                      GUYS! He called all in!
                      Once this happens, strategy is irrelevant, aggression is irrelevant, bankroll and stacksize are irrelevant, strategy or intimidation are irrelevant. Once he makes this call he is simply saying I think my hand is better than yours. What I don't get is how any winning player can decide calling with A8 is +ev here considering the pot odds.
                      you shouldn't be playing cash games anywhere
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                      • RudyRuetigger
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-24-10
                        • 65086

                        #81
                        centaur is pretty decent at poker...id take him over a majority here
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                        • Bcatswin
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-21-10
                          • 13931

                          #82
                          Me 2 Rudy
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                          • TheCentaur
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-28-11
                            • 8108

                            #83
                            cheers guys
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                            • RickySteve
                              Restricted User
                              • 01-31-06
                              • 3415

                              #84
                              Flop better.
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                              • UNCGQ
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-08-09
                                • 993

                                #85
                                Originally posted by RickySteve
                                Flop better.
                                this.
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                                • wal66
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 10-14-08
                                  • 5305

                                  #86
                                  Centaur, you have no idea just how far this goes. It's not a guy who has hacked the software. Sure there may be a few guys conspiring to collude and cheat the game but that is child's play to what is really going on with SBR Poker.

                                  Centaur, this goes all the way up to the top. The points situation is getting out of hand with all the store purchases and such that it is cutting into John's bottom line. Centaur, John has bots playing to win the points back. That's not all though. Too many bots would be suspicious so he has also ordered the software target certain players both to win (some) and to lose (more) on a regular basis.

                                  Watch how quickly this claim gets rejected or how many come and say I'm fok'n bonkers. Centaur I'm not bonkers, it's happening.
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                                  • RickySteve
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-31-06
                                    • 3415

                                    #87
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                                    • romecloneout
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-06-11
                                      • 2243

                                      #88
                                      wow more fukkkin babies crying about free pts...unreal u fukkkin guys
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                                      • GamblerSpirit
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-18-11
                                        • 4085

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by romecloneout
                                        wow more fukkkin babies crying about free pts...unreal u fukkkin guys
                                        Exactly, at least it's for free. I would be pissed if I was playing for real money with this software. Maybe many people don't have the privelege of actually going to a casino and playing live poker for tangible currency.
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                                        • BiTeMe UsAdOj
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-18-11
                                          • 7537

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by RickySteve

                                          Anyone know what John and Lou are discussing here?
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                                          • BGboothA
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-07-08
                                            • 4202

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by CarpeDime

                                            liberal atheist socialist scum
                                            Hey I represent two of those?
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                                            • BeerDog99
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-22-10
                                              • 4894

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                              centaur is pretty decent at poker...id take him over a majority here
                                              I agree, I just think Centaur tilts a bit too much for his own good.

                                              Cheers!
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                                              • TheCentaur
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-28-11
                                                • 8108

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by RickySteve
                                                Flop better.
                                                Or know the flop ahead of time.

                                                Hey are you really a socialist?
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                                                • eberetta1
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-27-09
                                                  • 1155

                                                  #94
                                                  Maybe the questions should be, Centaur, would you ever call an All In with A 8 suited? How about at a ring game that you can reload 10 times? How about playing heads up? You got a bad beat. Face it. I saw an all in yesterday. All in AA got called by 72 off suit. Frigging 72 turned into a full house. Instead of pleading to John to fix things, don't play. Then you can never have this type of problem ever occur to you. Problem gone.
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                                                  • aggieshawn
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-24-07
                                                    • 4377

                                                    #95
                                                    Ricky probably figured he was at 35% for the race and at 100% for shitts and giggles.
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                                                    • GamblerSpirit
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-18-11
                                                      • 4085

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by eberetta1
                                                      You got a bad beat. Face it. I saw an all in yesterday. All in AA got called by 72 off suit. Frigging 72 turned into a full house. .
                                                      classic hand. This has happened many times in the past in real life. Something about a seven duece.
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                                                      • konck
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-17-06
                                                        • 12554

                                                        #97
                                                        Theres a lot of plants in there to get back the pts remember them make notes an if you get a big hand vs one of them its a set up get out
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                                                        • vividjohn45
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-21-10
                                                          • 6331

                                                          #98
                                                          read the ashman thread in 2 + 2 forum.

                                                          now this is a real maniac. all inshoves rerasied with 33 ect. 100k wagers

                                                          read the thread seriously.
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                                                          • TheCentaur
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-28-11
                                                            • 8108

                                                            #99
                                                            Rickeysteve is in the poker room right now playing like a potato trying to throw us off the scent
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                                                            • RonPaul2008
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 06-08-07
                                                              • 6741

                                                              #100
                                                              Rickysteve is one lucky sonofabitch.
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                                                              • Extra Innings
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-26-10
                                                                • 15058

                                                                #101
                                                                Reminds me of the John Morrison saga
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                                                                • iifold
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-25-10
                                                                  • 11111

                                                                  #102
                                                                  guy just took me for 400 with K-6 offsuit vs. QQ...

                                                                  business as usual...

                                                                  If he is a winning player at SBRPoker, we either have some shitty players or its a sham...

                                                                  Who knows...
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                                                                  • The Kraken
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 12-25-11
                                                                    • 28918

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Just took me for 800. Called all in blindly for 900 on the button. Ended up with five A's. Shits rigged. Pretty sure ttittywarrior took a screenshot.
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                                                                    • freeVICK
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-21-08
                                                                      • 7114

                                                                      #104
                                                                      the guy is cleaning up right now. come play .5/1 with me
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                                                                      • Dark Horse
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 12-14-05
                                                                        • 13764

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by mrmarket
                                                                        The real question is why is RS slumming it at SBR poker?
                                                                        Practice.

                                                                        Software can have strange, but predictable patterns that you can detect if you play enough. The same software used by real books.
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