who thinks the cardinals will beat the phillies?

[PhillyFlyers]

your splitting hairs in your Yankees edge analysis on offense. Here are the stats where the same case can be made for Texas. Detroit is not far behind in these categories. Either way, all 4 first round series should be competitive and fun to watch. looking forward to it.

TEAM BA
#1 TEX .283
#3 DET .277
#5 STL .273
#7 NYY .263
#8 MIL .261
#15 PHI .253
#19 AZ .250
#25 TB .244

TEAM OBP
#2 NYY .343
#3 STL .341
#4 TEX & DET .340
#10 MIL .325
#11 PHI .323
#12 TB & AZ .322


TEAM SLUGGING
#2 TEX .460
#3 NYY .444
#4 DET .434
#5 MIL & STL .425
#8 AZ .413
#13 TB .402
#17 PHI .395


TEAM OPS
#2 TEX .800
#3 NYY .788
#4 DET .773
#5 STL .766
#6 MIL .750
#9 AZ .736
#14 TB .724
#15 PHI .717


TEAM RUNS SCORED
#2 NYY - 867
#3 TEX - 855
#4 DET - 787
#5 STL - 762
#9 AZ - 731
#11 MIL - 721
#13 PHI - 713
#15 TB - 707

I didn't split any hairs. In fact, I was pretty straight forward in my analysis. If the Yankees get good starting pitching, they can beat anyone. Phillies, Tigers, anyone.

For Detroit to win, Verlander has to carry them pretty much every time he pitches. He has to win 2 games in every series for them to have a shot at winning. If he loses once, they'll go down.

The Yankees don't really have that problem. If Sabathia doesn't win it doesn't kill them. If you bother to take a look at their respective pitching stats, the Yanks are better statistically.

As a team, the Yankees starting pitching has more wins, lower team era, less earned runs against, lower opponent batting average, and if they have the lead going into the 9th inning, are backed by the greatest closer that ever lived.

Advantage Yankees.

[dlunc3]

*off topic*
I see the Brewers giving Philly fits if it's the Brews/Phils in the NLCS

I agree the brewcrew will be tough.... Good bats and good pitching.. it is a nice mental advantage that the phills just took 3 of 4 in milw.. also think home feild is big

[BigDofBA]

Just to avoid confusion, I do not see St. Louis winning this series but I think they'll be competitive.

That being said, anything is possible in short series like this.

[linedrivr]

I didn't split any hairs. In fact, I was pretty straight forward in my analysis. If the Yankees get good starting pitching, they can beat anyone. Phillies, Tigers, anyone.

For Detroit to win, Verlander has to carry them pretty much every time he pitches. He has to win 2 games in every series for them to have a shot at winning. If he loses once, they'll go down.

The Yankees don't really have that problem. If Sabathia doesn't win it doesn't kill them. If you bother to take a look at their respective pitching stats, the Yanks are better statistically.

As a team, the Yankees starting pitching has more wins, lower team era, less earned runs against, lower opponent batting average, and if they have the lead going into the 9th inning, are backed by the greatest closer that ever lived.

Advantage Yankees.

sounds good. I wish your Yankees well.

[wade1]

All Phillies have to do is show up and throw there gloves on the field. This is a no brainer. This was hard for me to say because I don't like team or there fans

[gamble]

LOL at those looking at the Season Series, the Phillies didn't care for most of that last series they played the Cards, and for those saying the Phillies were on cruise control, they just swept the Braves in 3 must win games for the Braves on the road. Garcia vs Halladay Jackson vs Lee Carpenter vs Hamels Westbrook/Lohse vs Oswalt

you act like people are saying they should be favored, i think it will be a good series, cards offense vs phillies pitching should be interesting to watch regardless of whether you think the cards will get swept. and we still went 3-2 without that series so its not like we got dominated, we still won the season series without that last series. and the braves have been shit for a while now, so i don't really care that the phillies swept them (as far as philly's chances are concerned, obviously i cared so we'd get in)

[EmpireMaker]

No One in their right mind thinks so.

[ApricotSinner32]

I am a dog bettor too lakerboy but come on cardinals aren't going to win.

[philliesfinest]

st louis no fielding no pitching terrible bullpen no chance phillies in 4 then onto the series

[lakerboy]

I am a dog bettor too lakerboy but come on cardinals aren't going to win.

This is the problem on this site. Just because I asked a question it doesn't mean I assume the cards are winning this series.

[onetrickpony]

its going to game 5 for sure, lmao at guys all over the phillies nut

[flyingillini]

Cardinals are winning this series.

[broadway6]

phillies have the big name starters, but struggle to score runs. my cards are peeking at the right time. sure they have a shot. they just need to split the first two.

[dlunc3]

phillies have the big name starters, but struggle to score runs. my cards are peeking at the right time. sure they have a shot. they just need to split the first two.

Huh? From the tine the phills brought in pence till the time they clinched, the phills led the national league in scoring.. maybe we should say the cards have trouble scoring runs?


....they are the ones battling injury problems to some of their big bats..

[dlunc3]

phillies have the big name starters, but struggle to score runs. my cards are peeking at the right time. sure they have a shot. they just need to split the first two.

And to add to my previous post, peaking at the right time? 4-3 in your last 7 vs the bottom of the league mets cubs and astros, is peaking? You got into the playoffs bc the braves had an epic choke job, in which the phills played a big part of... not bc you guys suddenly got hot and started playing.great baseball. Again, 4-3 vs bottom feeders to end the yr...if you wanna say a team is hot or "peaking" at the right time, maybe you shoukd take a look at these phills that you are talking about who have won 4 straight against what would be a playoff openent if it weren't for the phills "hot" streak, which is actually just how they have been playing all season..

[dlunc3]

noone loves a homer more then me... but cmon, at least have some sense before making comments about your team

[dlunc3]

Since the all star break, through September 18th when the phills clinched (basically the phillie team the cards are about to face with Pence in the lineup) , they have averaged 5 runs per game. In that same time span, the cards have averaged 4.5 runs per game...

Hopefully we dont need to hear anymore of this nonsense about the phills bats... maybe we should focus a little more on the cards lack of pitching, or maybe their bats who "struggle to score runs"?

[onetrickpony]

Since the all star break, through September 18th when the phills clinched (basically the phillie team the cards are about to face with Pence in the lineup) , they have averaged 5 runs per game. In that same time span, the cards have averaged 4.5 runs per game... Hopefully we dont need to hear anymore of this nonsense about the phills bats... maybe we should focus a little more on the cards lack of pitching, or maybe their bats who "struggle to score runs"?

who gives a fuk abt ur stats. cards beat phillies 6 out of 9 times, find the stats for the 9 games there the ones that matter most

[solid152]

who gives a fuk abt ur stats. cards beat phillies 6 out of 9 times, find the stats for the 9 games there the ones that matter most

your team is getting swept. get over it. it would be a travesty to all of baseball if the best team in the last decade does not win it all this year. would just be bad for the game.

[onetrickpony]

your team is getting swept. get over it. it would be a travesty to all of baseball if the best team in the last decade does not win it all this year. would just be bad for the game.

would be embarrassing to lose to a wild card team the clinched on the last day while u guys bought a championship on paper, too bad u have to play games

[solid152]

would be embarrassing to lose to a wild card team the clinched on the last day while u guys bought a championship on paper, too bad u have to play games

it would be embarrassing but no philly fan is worried about it cause it won't happen. not with that sorry ass pitching staff the cards are throwing at this lineup.

[dlunc3]

who gives a fuk abt ur stats. cards beat phillies 6 out of 9 times, find the stats for the 9 games there the ones that matter most

Have you seen who played in those 9 games buddy? The first two, the phills had no utley pence or victorino.... and the last 2 were when the phills were on vacation and already had everything possible locked up (not to mention without ryan howard).

The other games, when the phills went into stl, they won 10-2 and 4-0 while taking 2 of three..


So yes, lets talk about the games that matter most


Unfortunately for you, this isnt basically a freeroll preseason game anymore, and the phills may actually care this time and play three of their all stars....

Again, why cant you cards boys at least think for once before saying something stupid?

[onetrickpony]

Have you seen who played in those 9 games buddy? The first two, the phills had no utley pence or victorino.... and the last 2 were when the phills were on vacation and already had everything possible locked up (not to mention without ryan howard). The other games, when the phills went into stl, they won 10-2 and 4-0 while taking 2 of three.. So yes, lets talk about the games that matter most Unfortunately for you, this isnt basically a freeroll preseason game anymore, and the phills may actually care this time and play three of their all stars.... Again, why cant you cards boys at least think for once before saying something stupid?

Have you seen who played in those 9 games buddy? The first two, the phills had no utley pence or victorino.... and the last 2 were when the phills were on vacation and already had everything possible locked up (not to mention without ryan howard). The other games, when the phills went into stl, they won 10-2 and 4-0 while taking 2 of three.. So yes, lets talk about the games that matter most Unfortunately for you, this isnt basically a freeroll preseason game anymore, and the phills may actually care this time and play three of their all stars.... Again, why cant you cards boys at least think for once before saying something stupid?

how do u determine whats stupid? what makes it stupid? any team can be beaten, thats not stupid, just cause u bought a championship doesnt mean u will win, players still have to play.

[dlunc3]

would be embarrassing to lose to a wild card team the clinched on the last day while u guys bought a championship on paper, too bad u have to play games

Where did the money come from to buy this team huh? Thats right, playing good baseball and building a good franchise with great fans over the years.... Sorry Stl cant do the same... enjoy being the san diego padres next year after watching your golden boy bail on you

hey, maybe you should be a phills fan... all are welcome, we could use your money next yr to make a run at pujols

[Roy Halladay]

Na.

They'd have a decent chance if their rotation was set up, Phils mean business.

[dlunc3]

how do u determine whats stupid? what makes it stupid? any team can be beaten, thats not stupid, just cause u bought a championship doesnt mean u will win, players still have to play.

im not saying the cards cant win... sure they can, any team can get hot at the right time...

what is stupid is the non sense comments being thrown around by clueless cards fans like..."the phills struggle to score runs"

[onetrickpony]

Where did the money come from to buy this team huh? Thats right, playing good baseball and building a good franchise with great fans over the years.... Sorry Stl cant afford the same... enjoy being the san diego padres next year after watching your golden boy bail on you

lets get off topic why dont we. this thread is not abt next yr or the padres dumb phillie fan, u gonna start booing when there in 0-2 hole? trash fans

[dlunc3]

lets get off topic why dont we. this thread is not abt next yr or the padres dumb phillie fan, u gonna start booing when there in 0-2 hole? trash fans

off topic? you brought up the issue of buying players... all i pointed out is where that money has come from, and how unfortunately for you, the cards have not done a good enough job to be successful as some other teams have... such as the phills

[dlunc3]

lets get off topic why dont we. this thread is not abt next yr or the padres dumb phillie fan, u gonna start booing when there in 0-2 hole? trash fans

the fans are the reason the phills can afford these players... maybe you cards fans can learn a thing or two this series

might be a little late though.... but hey, maybe albert will still be wearing red and white next yr (but with a P on the hat )

[solid152]

the fans are the reason the phills can afford these players... maybe you cards fans can learn a thing or two this series

might be a little late though.... but hey, maybe albert will still be wearing red and white next yr (but with a P on the hat )

yeah we'll platoon albert and howard. the phillies are printing money down there. we do what we want

[PhillyFlyers]

LMAO @ all the Cardinals homers who thinks their team actually has a shot at winning this series. Enjoy Pujols for the next 3 games because that's the last you'll see of him in a Cardinals uniform lmfao.

[Albert Pujols]

LMAO @ all the Cardinals homers who thinks their team actually has a shot at winning this series. Enjoy Pujols for the next 3 games because that's the last you'll see of him in a Cardinals uniform lmfao.

Well shit, why even play the games?

[Killer_Demo]

cards will not be an easy team to beat...will be a great series

[dlunc3]

Well shit, why even play the games?

prob shouldnt, you are right... head for the couch!

[broadway6]

And to add to my previous post, peaking at the right time? 4-3 in your last 7 vs the bottom of the league mets cubs and astros, is peaking? You got into the playoffs bc the braves had an epic choke job, in which the phills played a big part of... not bc you guys suddenly got hot and started playing.great baseball. Again, 4-3 vs bottom feeders to end the yr...if you wanna say a team is hot or "peaking" at the right time, maybe you shoukd take a look at these phills that you are talking about who have won 4 straight against what would be a playoff openent if it weren't for the phills "hot" streak, which is actually just how they have been playing all season..

you're right. phillies will win in 3