Brock Landers: A case study

[DrStale]

Brock's plays/likes/rubberbands. I was going to track with units but he has only posted them sporadically so I said fukk it.


NFL Preseason

8/11 San Diego ML (-170) L
8/12 Kansas City +3 L
8/15 Houston -3 (+105) W
8/18 Pittsburgh/Philly Under 34.5 (-108) to win 3 units L
8/19 Cleveland -2.5 (-108) L
8/19 Jacksonville Over 36 (-108) to win 2 units L
8/20 Denver Broncos Under 36 (-103) to win 3 units W
8/21 Dallas Cowboys Under 39 (-108) to win 4 units W
8/22 Bears Under 35.5 (-108) to win 4 units L
8/25 Washington +3.5 (-108) TO win 5 units W
8/26 Green Bay -6.5 1H (-108) to win 4 units L
8/26 St. Louis -1.5 (-108) to win 2 units W
8/27 Titans ML (-170) to win 3 units W
8/27 Texans -3.5 (-108) to win 2 units W
8/28 New Orleans -4.5 (-108) to win 3 units W

College

9/1 UNLV +35.5 W
9/1 Syracuse -6 W
9/1 Wisconsin -14 2H L
9/2 TCU -3.5 (Big play) L
9/3 Oregon -4.5 (-108) to win 10 units *Rubberband Play* L
9/5 Miami +4 L
9/10 Alabama -9.5 W
9/10 Iowa L
9/10 Toledo W
9/10 Wisconsin W
9/10 Stanford W
9/10 South Carolina P
9/10 Michigan W
9/15 Miss St +3.5 L
9/17 ASU +1.5 L
9/17 MSU +4.5 L
9/17 Oklahoma ML W
9/22 NC ST/Cincy Over L
9/23 UCF +2

NFL

9/8 Saints +4 L
9/11 Baltimore -1 W
9/12 2 Team parlay NE/Den ML L
9/17 Eagles ML L
9/18 Bears +7 L

Totals:

NFL Preseason
ATS: 5-3
Totals: 2-3
ML (both -170): 1-1
Overall: 8-7

College
ATS: 7-8-1
Totals: 0-1
ML: 1-0
Overall: 8-9-1

NFL
ATS: 1-2
ML: 0-1
Parlays: 0-1
Overall 1-4

All plays: 17-20-1

Trends

Brock is 1-6 in his last 7 plays
Brock is 1-3 in bets involving Chicago area teams
Brock is 4-8 in games in which he makes more than 5 posts about his bet


In summation Brock may not be as bad as he appears so be wary in fading him. Granted he is definitely down quite a bit because he has lost most of his large plays and we all know Brock bets more as the season goes on (he cant help himself) and he has clearly been struggling as of late. The fact that he does so bad on the games he hypes the most contributes to his legend of mushiness. Also, I have too much time on my hands.

May keep this updated, may not, mostly I was just curious as to how poorly he was actually doing and I was somewhat surprised by his lack of complete failure. I would caution against blindly fading Brock, though he is still a mush and should be used as a betting tool.

Cheers.

[Richkas]

all Brock needs to do is win about 5 in a row and he will be just fine

[Mush Landers]

[jjgold]

Nice work Stalemen!!!

[Ice House]

Nice work Stalemen!!!

nice work indeed.

[MartinBlank]

Nice work Stale...nice work.

Landers is a mess, an absolute mess.

[Brock Landers]

i have no idea how you came up with those plays LOL

[Glitch]

remove preseason. of course it counts and good for him. but it skews the numbers.

even though you can have leans and good picks based on variables and information- theres so much unknown still going in and it is not the same as being able to pick regular season. its still nice, but its different.

and i see theres this is just his football opinions/picks

[Naz18]

Brock is just like most posters on this site, he's losing because of the juice/house edge.

[Brock Landers]

pending play on UCF tonight +2

[Glitch]

also lets just for fun see some numbers of when hes not taking an AP top 6 team in the nation.

[Runaway]

Quality capping skills here

[MartinBlank]

pending play on UCF tonight +2

Fook me.

I've got that sinking feeling now about my UCF bet.

[MC PICKS]

Brock's plays/likes/rubberbands. I was going to track with units but he has only posted them sporadically so I said fukk it. NFL Preseason 8/11 San Diego ML (-170) L 8/12 Kansas City +3 L 8/15 Houston -3 (+105) W 8/18 Pittsburgh/Philly Under 34.5 (-108) to win 3 units L 8/19 Cleveland -2.5 (-108) L 8/19 Jacksonville Over 36 (-108) to win 2 units L 8/20 Denver Broncos Under 36 (-103) to win 3 units W 8/21 Dallas Cowboys Under 39 (-108) to win 4 units W 8/22 Bears Under 35.5 (-108) to win 4 units L 8/25 Washington +3.5 (-108) TO win 5 units W 8/26 Green Bay -6.5 1H (-108) to win 4 units L 8/26 St. Louis -1.5 (-108) to win 2 units W 8/27 Titans ML (-170) to win 3 units W 8/27 Texans -3.5 (-108) to win 2 units W 8/28 New Orleans -4.5 (-108) to win 3 units W College 9/1 UNLV +35.5 W 9/1 Syracuse -6 W 9/1 Wisconsin -14 2H L 9/2 TCU -3.5 (Big play) L 9/3 Oregon -4.5 (-108) to win 10 units *Rubberband Play* L 9/5 Miami +4 L 9/10 Alabama -9.5 W 9/10 Iowa L 9/10 Toledo W 9/10 Wisconsin W 9/10 Stanford W 9/10 South Carolina P 9/10 Michigan W 9/15 Miss St +3.5 L 9/17 ASU +1.5 L 9/17 MSU +4.5 L 9/17 Oklahoma ML W 9/22 NC ST/Cincy Over L 9/23 UCF +2 NFL 9/8 Saints +4 L 9/11 Baltimore -1 W 9/12 2 Team parlay NE/Den ML L 9/17 Eagles ML L 9/18 Bears +7 L Totals: NFL Preseason ATS: 5-3 Totals: 2-3 ML (both -170): 1-1 Overall: 8-7 College ATS: 7-8-1 Totals: 0-1 ML: 1-0 Overall: 8-9-1 NFL ATS: 1-2 ML: 0-1 Parlays: 0-1 Overall 1-4 All plays: 17-20-1 Trends Brock is 1-6 in his last 7 plays Brock is 1-3 in bets involving Chicago area teams Brock is 4-8 in games in which he makes more than 5 posts about his bet In summation Brock may not be as bad as he appears so be wary in fading him. Granted he is definitely down quite a bit because he has lost most of his large plays and we all know Brock bets more as the season goes on (he cant help himself) and he has clearly been struggling as of late. The fact that he does so bad on the games he hypes the most contributes to his legend of mushiness. Also, I have too much time on my hands. May keep this updated, may not, mostly I was just curious as to how poorly he was actually doing and I was somewhat surprised by his lack of complete failure. I would caution against blindly fading Brock, though he is still a mush and should be used as a betting tool. Cheers.

The last sentence in this thread is the most important, use as a betting tool, tonights game screams pass even though UCF could win outright possibly you just know BYU will be kicking a chip shot field goal tied up as time runs out an dwin by 3, lol.

[jjgold]

Brock your hair is messy

[DrStale]

pending play on UCF tonight +2

Its on there.

[DrStale]

remove preseason. of course it counts and good for him. but it skews the numbers.

even though you can have leans and good picks based on variables and information- theres so much unknown still going in and it is not the same as being able to pick regular season. its still nice, but its different.

and i see theres this is just his football opinions/picks

The info is all there, people can pick and choose what they want to look at and what they want to ignore. Might be a good idea to ignore preseason but I was curious as to how his bets did there as well.

[chilidog]

Fook me.

I've got that sinking feeling now about my UCF bet.

I'm in the same boat. Oh well, c'mon Brock! If this wins, Jagerbombs are on me

[DrStale]

also lets just for fun see some numbers of when hes not taking an AP top 6 team in the nation.

He's 2-2 ATS in games involving a top 6 teams.

Oregon (3) vs LSU (4) in week 1 LOSS
Alabama (3) vs Penn St in week 2 WIN
Stanford (6) vs Duke week 2 WIN
Miss St. vs LSU (3) week 3 LOSS

So he's 2-1 when picking the favorite. Making him 6-8-1 when not betting a team ranked 6 or higher.

And 1-0 on the ML winning with Oklahoma over FSU.

[gauchojake]

Good work pal. I've always wondered what the real record is because he does post winners from time to time.

[8ArIvd5]

what no one here knows is brock has not lost a bet that he didn't post. brock's up long-term.

[EmpireMaker]

5 or more posts about UCF bet .... You know what to do

[DrStale]

5 or more posts about UCF bet .... You know what to do

I bet on UCF after I made this too...perhaps im a masochist.

[EmpireMaker]

[ACoochy]

Fook me. I've got that sinking feeling now about my UCF bet.

Shite Can i still middle out :-)

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Is that record legit? Wasn't Brock just betting SBR pts on some ofthose?

[Glitch]

He's 2-2 ATS in games involving a top 6 teams.

Oregon (3) vs LSU (4) in week 1 LOSS
Alabama (3) vs Penn St in week 2 WIN
Stanford (6) vs Duke week 2 WIN
Miss St. vs LSU (3) week 3 LOSS

So he's 2-1 when picking the favorite. Making him 6-8-1 when not betting a team ranked 6 or higher.

And 1-0 on the ML winning with Oklahoma over FSU.

thats not as bad as i thought it would be (though still high because theyre top teams.) You still didnt remove the top 6 teams and display the remainder. but, youre right, there are all sorts of ways to splice this data for analysis.

it appears so far early into the football seasons he is picking at a much higher rate than how it might seem. He and JJ said been saying for a while brock is better at football.

i guess his wins just arent really getting highlighted. people dig up/ see the loss threads more so far this football season.

[will2survive]

Dr Stale: "Can't we all just get along?"---- Is trying to demoralize someone else, your method of gratification? What's the point? There is none.

[hanco21]

500 I dont think so, Everytime I fade I win.

[DrStale]

Dr Stale: "Can't we all just get along?"---- Is trying to demoralize someone else, your method of gratification? What's the point? There is none.

Demoralize? Are you drunk? Brock takes shit every single day on this forum from everyone for being a terrible handicapper. Maybe you should find every post of people doing this and scold them. My analysis actually showed he probably isnt as bad as people think.

[will2survive]

Why do a "case study" on him? You can be handicapping games or having fun doing something else that's more productive.

[DrStale]

Why do a "case study" on him? You can be handicapping games or having fun doing something else that's more productive.

Why not? Brock is one of the most popular subjects of conversation on the forums. An accurate analysis of his plays seems like a forum service to me.

[will2survive]

suit yourself---seems kind of boring but I respect your point and this is a "freedom of speech" (for the most part) forum.

[mrmarket]

Anyone who thinks about it logically knows that any punter is flipping a coin till he stops breathing on spread bets. If you've been around gambling enough though you come across people who seem to defy the process. Of course they are actual flippers but life deals them variance so they might win 1 for every 4 lifetime despite their best efforts. That's Brock. I have to admit he's a solid guy for taking the mick like he does. Salud my man!

[pavyracer]

i have no idea how you came up with those plays LOL

Hint: He looked at your posts (you do know they are recorded, right?)