Sanchez...

[yisman]

By the way, for the people comparing Romo to Sanchez:

This is Sanchez's third pro season. In Romo's third pro season, he was still on the bench.

Funny, I don't remember Sanchez being the reason the Jets won. I remember him being the one responsible for 2 key turnovers that could have cost them the game. He is not a franchise QB and if I was the Jets organization I would be looking for alternatives.

You said he can get it done. I was agreeing with you.

[dlunc3]

romo and sanchez are both bums to this point... the point in comparing the two is, though romo makes bonehead plays sometimes, he at least has the ability to throw the ball downfield. Sanchez cant to that, and for this reason I do not see him being a successful qb in this league (he may be on a successful team, but it will not be bc of him)

[Mikail]

Yisman. I must have left out the 't' can should have been can't. If it wasn't for the Jets defense they would have lost last night and it would have been because of Sanchez.

[yisman]

Obviously they needed a top flight defense to win.

However, if they had started Kerry Collins or someone like that rather than Sanchez, they would have lost.

Both sides in this thread are wrong.

Sanchez is not an elite quarterback, but he's not a scrub either.

At this point he's slightly below league average. Had the Jets not had him the past two seasons, they would not have gone to AFC Championship Games, because not much was available in terms of free agent QBs.

[Mikail]

Obviously they needed a top flight defense to win.

However, if they had started Kerry Collins or someone like that rather than Sanchez, they would have lost.

Both sides in this thread are wrong.

Sanchez is not an elite quarterback, but he's not a scrub either.

At this point he's slightly below league average. Had the Jets not had him the past two seasons, they would not have gone to AFC Championship Games, because not much was available in terms of free agent QBs.

call me crazy but I'd rather have back up Mark Brunell in there instead of Sanchez when my money is on the Jets.

[dlunc3]

without romo being a retard in the 4th and a bailout blocked punt, they lose by double digits at home as a huge favorite in front of america

[Mikail]

without romo being a retard in the 4th and a bailout blocked punt, they lose by double digits at home as a huge favorite in front of america

That's right. Jets defense bailed out Sanchez. Cashing in on Dallas mistakes in the 4th quarter.

[crustyme]

wow, some of you are completely ignorant.

sanchez led the jets to four 4th quarter comebacks last season.

but of course he saves his best for the playoffs:

139.4 qb rating vs. bengals in their wild card victory.
93.3 qb rating vs. colts in afc championship.
127 qb rating in their win vs. new england in afc divisional
102.2 qb rating vs. steelers in afc championship.

and it was the jets defense that let them down in both afc championships not sanchez.

[ttrace35]

wow, some of you are completely ignorant.

sanchez led the jets to four 4th quarter comebacks last season.

but of course he saves his best for the playoffs:

139.4 qb rating vs. bengals in their wild card victory.
93.3 qb rating vs. colts in afc championship.
127 qb rating in their win vs. new england in afc divisional
102.2 qb rating vs. steelers in afc championship.

and it was the jets defense that let them down in both afc championships not sanchez.

I agree completely. The sign of a good qb is playing big in big games. Everybody would say Matt Ryan is a much better qb, but he shoots blanks in the playoffs.

[cant call it]

no worries dlunc, crusty is rarely right about anything. Take it from me, he admitted that he was an airbetter and never played for real money. How could you trust a kid that said he never bets with real money and he doesn't know how to change oil in a car.

[MoneyLineDawg]

As a Jets fan I'm so sick of this argument with ignorant people who can't grasp the fact that a 24 year old QB WILL GET BETTER, and maybe MUCH BETTER

At this point I'm done arguing for Sanchez and will let the results speak for themselves.....In fact I don't give a shit at all what people think.....Cause if the Jets keep winning and going far in the playoffs with such a terrible QB, all that means is that we must have a HOF-Caliber head coach in Rex Ryan......

So basically you guys can say all the dumb shit you want and I'll just continue to watch my TEAM WIN.....

[dlunc3]

no worries dlunc, crusty is rarely right about anything. Take it from me, he admitted that he was an airbetter and never played for real money. How could you trust a kid that said he never bets with real money and he doesn't know how to change oil in a car.

haha not surprised one bit to hear that

[dlunc3]

As a Jets fan I'm so sick of this argument with ignorant people who can't grasp the fact that a 24 year old QB WILL GET BETTER, and maybe MUCH BETTER

At this point I'm done arguing for Sanchez and will let the results speak for themselves.....In fact I don't give a shit at all what people think.....Cause if the Jets keep winning and going far in the playoffs with such a terrible QB, all that means is that we must have a HOF-Caliber head coach in Rex Ryan......

So basically you guys can say all the dumb shit you want and I'll just continue to watch my TEAM WIN.....

You are missing the point. Noone is saying that the jets are no good or that they wont win.. bc they will as they have a great team... and from what I have seen, rex is a great coach..

The point is that Sanchez does not have the "it" factor that is takes to be great in this league. Stafford has it, Bradford has it.. but Sanchez does not... its not something you wake up with one day or something that he will just learn in his 4th or 5th year. The guy cant not make plays down field, and bc of that, he isnt, and never will be great. Maybe he will prove me wrong, but I have never seen a great qb without this "it" factor. I am not saying he wont win a ring, bc he does play for a great team (aka trent dilfer), and so he may get one... but it wont be bc of him. The jets would be a completely different team with any of the other young up and comers in this league (stafford, bradford, even cam).. and if any jets fans, or even members of the jets organization were honest with themselves, they would agree..

[crustyme]

You are missing the point. Noone is saying that the jets are no good or that they wont win.. bc they will as they have a great team... and from what I have seen, rex is a great coach..

The point is that Sanchez does not have the "it" factor that is takes to be great in this league. Stafford has it, Bradford has it.. but Sanchez does not... its not something you wake up with one day or something that he will just learn in his 4th or 5th year. The guy cant not make plays down field, and bc of that, he isnt, and never will be great. Maybe he will prove me wrong, but I have never seen a great qb without this "it" factor. I am not saying he wont win a ring, bc he does play for a great team (aka trent dilfer), and so he may get one... but it wont be bc of him. The jets would be a completely different team with any of the other young up and comers in this league (stafford, bradford, even cam).. and if any jets fans, or even members of the jets organization were honest with themselves, they would agree..

wow, what an idiot.....

stafford has it? what is that exactly, an injury bug that hasn't allowed him to play a full season in 3 seasons?

bradford has it? costly interceptions that cost them a playoff spot last season?

but sanchez who has already tied the nfl record for most road playoff victories in just 2 seasons and has better numbers than brady, eli, ben roth, brees after 6 playoff games doesn't have it?



why dont you just come out and say it? you dont like sanchez cause he's not white. oh wait, you already have.

[dlunc3]

Funny, my team has had a black qb for the past 13 years and yet im still a huge fan

[dlunc3]

wow, what an idiot.....

stafford has it? what is that exactly, an injury bug that hasn't allowed him to play a full season in 3 seasons?

bradford has it? costly interceptions that cost them a playoff spot last season?

but sanchez who has already tied the nfl record for most road playoff victories in just 2 seasons and has better numbers than brady, eli, ben roth, brees after 6 playoff games doesn't have it?



why dont you just come out and say it? you dont like sanchez cause he's not white. oh wait, you already have.

"it" is the capability to throw the ball down field and not look shell shocked under pressure.

Name me one great qb in NFL history that wasnt able to throw the ball downfield, much like your precious sanchez?

[MoneyLineDawg]

You are missing the point. Noone is saying that the jets are no good or that they wont win.. bc they will as they have a great team... and from what I have seen, rex is a great coach..

The point is that Sanchez does not have the "it" factor that is takes to be great in this league. Stafford has it, Bradford has it.. but Sanchez does not... its not something you wake up with one day or something that he will just learn in his 4th or 5th year. The guy cant not make plays down field, and bc of that, he isnt, and never will be great. Maybe he will prove me wrong, but I have never seen a great qb without this "it" factor. I am not saying he wont win a ring, bc he does play for a great team (aka trent dilfer), and so he may get one... but it wont be bc of him. The jets would be a completely different team with any of the other young up and comers in this league (stafford, bradford, even cam).. and if any jets fans, or even members of the jets organization were honest with themselves, they would agree..

How can you possibly say he doesn't have the "it" factor when he has had numerous 4th quarter comebacks in his 2 years in the league and also has 4 playoff wins on the road in 2 years??? The "it" factor to me is when a QB steps up in the pressure and leads his team to victory during a huge game or situation

So I actually completely disagree with you......Sanchez's problem is that he has the "it" factor, but plays too inconsistently during the early parts of games that aren't as important

And it's also absolutely ridiculous to suggest he can't make plays down-field......He has a great, live arm

Please watch the video at 1:45, 1:55, and 2:25......in fact watch the whole video.........But please watch the clip especially at 1:55 and then tell me he can't make plays downfield......It's honestly laughable

[MoneyLineDawg]

"it" is the capability to throw the ball down field and not look shell shocked under pressure.

Name me one great qb in NFL history that wasnt able to throw the ball downfield, much like your precious sanchez?

WTF are you talking about??? Please watch the video above at 1:55 and then repeat what you just said......The Jets run a very conservative offense but Mark can sling it down field with the best of em when he's called upon.....This is exactly what I'm talking about: Ignorant people blindly bashing Sanchez

[crustyme]

no worries dlunc, crusty is rarely right about anything. Take it from me, he admitted that he was an airbetter and never played for real money. How could you trust a kid that said he never bets with real money and he doesn't know how to change oil in a car.

youre an admitted dumpster diving bigot.

dumpster diving is the best, I found a very nice humidor and 4 nice kitchen chairs a few weeks ago outside a dumpster near house. I live in auburn, so all these spoiled kids with mom and dad paying for everything will just set anything out, and I am reaping all the benefits.

keep making up lies about me but unfortunately for you, it will never surpass your sad pathetic real life.

[MoneyLineDawg]

1:55......Sanchez can't make plays downfield......

[King Mayan]

Sanchez is better than half of the QBs in the NFL. Maybe the jets can get Alex smith, so some of you disgruntled fukk will be happy.

[crustyme]

WTF are you talking about??? Please watch the video above at 1:55 and then repeat what you just said......The Jets run a very conservative offense but Mark can sling it down field with the best of em when he's called upon.....This is exactly what I'm talking about: Ignorant people blindly bashing Sanchez

he's seriously a retard.

62 yards:



50 yards:






but he can't throw deep.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Crusty, I'll add a few more from his days at USC......The Jets don't let him rip it like they should, not his fault.......He's amazing on the run, watch the first 3 clips here and tell me Sanchez CAN'T make plays downfield......

[crustyme]

Crusty, I'll add a few more from his days at USC......The Jets don't let him rip it like they should, not his fault.......He's amazing on the run, watch the first 3 clips here and tell me Sanchez CAN'T make plays downfield......

exactly.

noodle-armed qbs arent suppose to sling lasers 60+yds downfield with perfect accuracy.

hey, i noticed you had south carolina ml over georgia. nice bet. i was in a vegas casino when the crowd erupted after usc returned georgia's fumble to go up 10. then after georgia scored a td right back to cut it back to 3, they all groaned and left. i was the only one celebrating. one guy asked why i was celebrating when the spread was 3, i replied "cause i got moneyline baby!"

[dfberger23]

Make or break year for Sanchez, I am critical of him but he played well for us last night.

[MoneyLineDawg]

exactly.

noodle-armed qbs arent suppose to sling lasers 60+yds downfield with perfect accuracy.

hey, i noticed you had south carolina ml over georgia. nice bet. i was in a vegas casino when the crowd erupted after usc returned georgia's fumble to go up 10. then after georgia scored a td right back to cut it back to 3, they all groaned and left. i was the only one celebrating. one guy asked why i was celebrating when the spread was 3, i replied "cause i got moneyline baby!"

haha hell yea! Good story. I'm a recent grad of SC and follow the team maybe more than I do the Jets so I know them pretty well....Just no way I could see them losing that game against UGA although it was one of the craziest games in a while......It was my biggest bet of 2011 so I was pumped. I got the Raiders ML tonight, any chance that hits?

[crustyme]

haha hell yea! Good story. I'm a recent grad of SC and follow the team maybe more than I do the Jets so I know them pretty well....Just no way I could see them losing that game against UGA although it was one of the craziest games in a while......It was my biggest bet of 2011 so I was pumped. I got the Raiders ML tonight, any chance that hits?

sweet. nice to have a grad who knows about sc.

whats the general feeling of sc students/fans towards stephen garcia? he always gives me ulcers when i bet sc but does seem to come through in the clutch. lattimore is awesome of course. wish they would give him the ball more.

i got raiders too so hope they come through.

[Rous]

Sanchez is so bad, he is lucky for now he has rex ryan to get him wins. Other than that, he is terrible.

[MoneyLineDawg]

sweet. nice to have a grad who knows about sc.

whats the general feeling of sc students/fans towards stephen garcia? he always gives me ulcers when i bet sc but does seem to come through in the clutch. lattimore is awesome of course. wish they would give him the ball more.

i got raiders too so hope they come through.

Garcia's got some great wins over the years (Beating #1 Bama last year the biggest) and hasn't lost to Clemson which is always huge for SC

Most people like Garcia and realize that he might be inconsistent, but he's a warrior on the field who can come up big when you least expect it


Also, still waiting on Dlunc's response

[dlunc3]

My response? what more can I say? sanchez cant throw down field on a consistent basis... He played well for himself for once in week one, yet he was still #30 rated QB on the new total qb rating rankings after week 1 (behind mcnabb ). I would bet any amount of money or points that he will not be in the top 10 once the year is over. He is an average at best qb.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6943920/nfl-week-1-total-qbr-leaders

[MoneyLineDawg]

My response? what more can I say? sanchez cant throw down field on a consistent basis... He played well for himself for once in week one, yet he was still #30 rated QB on the new total qb rating rankings after week 1 (behind mcnabb ). I would bet any amount of money or points that he will not be in the top 10 once the year is over. He is an average at best qb.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/69...al-qbr-leaders

Yeah that system means dick if they have McNabb over Sanchez based on week 1......Sanchez didn't play all that well but gimme a break here

Sanchez actually has great stats throwing the ball over 30 yards, but the Jets don't let him fire back like other offenses do in the NFL......You were wrong in claiming that "The guy cant not make plays down field" .....It's simply 100% wrong

And I do agree with you that he is an average QB at this time. Name me a QB that looked the same at 24 years old as he did at 28 or 30?

Can we give him a 3rd full year in the league before we declare him only average, set in stone? I will be sure to bump this thread at the end of the season, good or bad

[daimoshokage]

Mexican QBs can't throw shit.. They are inaccurate and have low football IQ.. (see:sanchez)

[crustyme]

My response? what more can I say? sanchez cant throw down field on a consistent basis... He played well for himself for once in week one, yet he was still #30 rated QB on the new total qb rating rankings after week 1 (behind mcnabb ). I would bet any amount of money or points that he will not be in the top 10 once the year is over. He is an average at best qb.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/69...al-qbr-leaders

whats that suppose to prove? that fitzpatrick is a better qb than brady, brees, rodgers, rivers and roethlisberger?



you really are a giant numbskull.

[King Mayan]

Mexican QBs can't throw shit.. They are inaccurate and have low football IQ.. (see:sanchez)

Daimo you dumb muthafukka.

[rsnnh12]

Daimo you dumb muthafukka.

Plunkett sucked, dude. I mean, its not like he won a pair of Super Bowls and a SB MVP award.