Sorry Obama Haters, Bush still seen as the one to blame
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BettingWizardSBR Hall of Famer
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#1Sorry Obama Haters, Bush still seen as the one to blameTags: None -
DrStaleSBR Hall of Famer
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#2Somebody at Fox News just got fired for including that statistic.Originally posted by Dark HorseIf with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?Comment -
jarvolSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-13-10
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#3This argument will go on for year and decades......however if Obama can't correct Bush's issues then why give him 4 more years? He extended the Bush tax cuts. He spent $800 billion on stimulus that was a joke. He has continued Bush's wars of aggression and this failed foreign policy of the last 60 years.
What exactly has he done any differently than Bush other pass an unconstitutional healthcare bill that puts even more burden on the economy?Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
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#4too many people don't understand enough about politics but still feel the need to give an opinion. Obama is 100X worse than Bush which is a fact. He double the debt in 2 years what Bush created in 8 years. Support failure all you want.Comment -
BettingWizardSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-28-09
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#5This argument will go on for year and decades......however if Obama can't correct Bush's issues then why give him 4 more years? He extended the Bush tax cuts. He spent $800 billion on stimulus that was a joke. He has continued Bush's wars of aggression and this failed foreign policy of the last 60 years.
What exactly has he done any differently than Bush other pass an unconstitutional healthcare bill that puts even more burden on the economy?Comment -
rsnnh12SBR MVP
- 09-26-10
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#6
Government spending does not get us out of recessions or depressions on its own. Keynesians who support this are living in a fantasy world, where their 'perfect world' theories actually work... in real life not so much.Comment -
BettingWizardSBR Hall of Famer
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#7At least the debt Obama has had was done here at home. What of Bush's spending do we have to show for anything? Nothing.Comment -
bruceBRUCEbruceSBR MVP
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#8it's not really an argument; Bush is undoubtedly worse-and Bush being so bad led directly to Obama being elected.
the Keynesian stuff is as bad, if not worse, than being the 1st wartime president to ever cut taxes. 2 pointless wars that aren't over yet that we're still paying for, and will be for decades.Comment -
jarvolSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-13-10
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#9it's not really an argument; Bush is undoubtedly worse-and Bush being so bad led directly to Obama being elected.
the Keynesian stuff is as bad, if not worse, than being the 1st wartime president to ever cut taxes. 2 pointless wars that aren't over yet that we're still paying for, and will be for decades.Comment -
rsnnh12SBR MVP
- 09-26-10
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BettingWizardSBR Hall of Famer
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EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
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#12Bush caused this disaster and Obama is having a hard time trying to figure out how to get us out of it.Comment -
rsnnh12SBR MVP
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RubberKettleSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-28-09
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#14Bush's spending will look like peanuts when we realize the costs of Obama Care.
Of course people still blame Bush. Lots of misinformation and slander out there on tv.
MSNBC talk hosts have to mention Bush 5x an hour, its in their contracts.Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
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#15"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark TwainComment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
- 09-29-10
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#16
plus obama has halted the war in iraq by pulling out all the combat troops with complete pullout in dec. so obama has accomplished what bush couldnt in 7 years in just under 3.
as for afghanistan, he never opposed it as far as I know. in fact, his campaign promise was to send more troops there since they actually had connections to al qaeda and even flaunted it.Comment -
KKoz9SBR MVP
- 09-07-06
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#17Comment -
bruceBRUCEbruceSBR MVP
- 06-20-09
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DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
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#20For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possibleComment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
- 09-29-10
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#23http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...#ixzz1W40LiNyd
Bush gets more blame by 20 pts
so yes, we can keep saying "blame bush"
Obama is a lock to win.
seems like the neocons are the only ones surprised by this. it's difficult for them to admit bush was a colossal failure cause that would mean they are failures too since they put him in charge.
but bush is 100% at fault for our current crisis...
1. bush ignored 9/11 warnings....... a month prior to 9/11 he was sent an urgent presidential memo warning of an imminent attack. it specifically warned of hijackings by al qaeda members in the us, use of bombs and surveillance of buildings in nyc. so he was basically told where and how. so did bush act? nope, he went golfing and spent the next month on vacation! maybe it was a working vacation? nope, he didn't even discuss the threat with anyone!!!!!!
not surprising even the republican members of the 911 commission found that bush had the proverbial blue print to al qaeda's plans and did nothing.
2. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown......... bush passed the "american dream downpayment act of 2003" which practically gave homes to the poor with bad credit like candy on halloween. not surprising since his largest political donor at the time happened to be the largest subprime lender in the us. bush also removed anti-predatory lending laws which helped subprime lenders skirt any lending laws and prosecution.
2b. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown..... bush and sec deregulated banking laws in 2004 which allowed the top 5 us investment banks to put all their eggs in the subprime basket at the tune of $4 trillion in debt. they collapsed under this mountain of debt which caused the meltdown.
3. bush & cheney manipulated gas prices...... in 2002, bush & cheney purchased 50 million barrels of oil from private refineries which caused the price of barrel of oil to nearly double in price. then invaded iraq which put another 1.3 million barrels of oil per day offline.
gas prices reached $5/gal in some areas which cost an avg driver over $3000 in additional gas costs per year.
4. bush invaded iraq on fabricated lies..... the same lies cia warned bush was non-trustworthy and not to use in his speeches, a full year prior to his war speech!!!!!! bush used the devastation of 9/11 to invade iraq when he had told his biographer 3 years earlier that he intended to invade if he became president.
5. bush lost over 4 million jobs in 1 year..... from 2007-8.
6. us dollar lost 50% of its value under bush.
7. bush raided the social security funds in the tune of $1.3 trillion to pay for his war.
8. bush spied on his own citizens, trampling all over the us constitution.
9. bush & cheney orchestrated a $7 billion war contract to cheney's haliburton, using the law to bypass the bidding process and flat out lying and telling their competitors that no war was coming. even though they had been in negotiations with haliburton for a month!!!!!!!! a bidding process would have saved tax payers billions.
10. bush sat there like a coked up zombie when told america was under attack on 9/11. what a dumbfuk!
so is it any wonder bush received the lowest approval rating of any president in the last 70 years??????
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rsnnh12SBR MVP
- 09-26-10
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#24^^ hey crustyretard, please explain where it said the memo was "urgent". It was part of his daily briefing, that he and every other president has had every single day, no matter where they are... how is that "urgent"?
I've already explained the surveillance of NYC thing to you, but you just don't listen. The FBI had already investigated it, and found it was 2 tourists taking pictures. You're right though, how didn't retard Bush stop itComment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
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#25seems like the neocons are the only ones surprised by this. it's difficult for them to admit bush was a colossal failure cause that would mean they are failures too since they put him in charge.
but bush is 100% at fault for our current crisis...
1. bush ignored 9/11 warnings....... a month prior to 9/11 he was sent an urgent presidential memo warning of an imminent attack. it specifically warned of hijackings by al qaeda members in the us, use of bombs and surveillance of buildings in nyc. so he was basically told where and how. so did bush act? nope, he went golfing and spent the next month on vacation! maybe it was a working vacation? nope, he didn't even discuss the threat with anyone!!!!!!
not surprising even the republican members of the 911 commission found that bush had the proverbial blue print to al qaeda's plans and did nothing.
2. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown......... bush passed the "american dream downpayment act of 2003" which practically gave homes to the poor with bad credit like candy on halloween. not surprising since his largest political donor at the time happened to be the largest subprime lender in the us. bush also removed anti-predatory lending laws which helped subprime lenders skirt any lending laws and prosecution.
2b. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown..... bush and sec deregulated banking laws in 2004 which allowed the top 5 us investment banks to put all their eggs in the subprime basket at the tune of $4 trillion in debt. they collapsed under this mountain of debt which caused the meltdown.
3. bush & cheney manipulated gas prices...... in 2002, bush & cheney purchased 50 million barrels of oil from private refineries which caused the price of barrel of oil to nearly double in price. then invaded iraq which put another 1.3 million barrels of oil per day offline.
gas prices reached $5/gal in some areas which cost an avg driver over $3000 in additional gas costs per year.
4. bush invaded iraq on fabricated lies..... the same lies cia warned bush was non-trustworthy and not to use in his speeches, a full year prior to his war speech!!!!!! bush used the devastation of 9/11 to invade iraq when he had told his biographer 3 years earlier that he intended to invade if he became president.
5. bush lost over 4 million jobs in 1 year..... from 2007-8.
6. us dollar lost 50% of its value under bush.
7. bush raided the social security funds in the tune of $1.3 trillion to pay for his war.
8. bush spied on his own citizens, trampling all over the us constitution.
9. bush & cheney orchestrated a $7 billion war contract to cheney's haliburton, using the law to bypass the bidding process and flat out lying and telling their competitors that no war was coming. even though they had been in negotiations with haliburton for a month!!!!!!!! a bidding process would have saved tax payers billions.
10. bush sat there like a coked up zombie when told america was under attack on 9/11. what a dumbfuk!
so is it any wonder bush received the lowest approval rating of any president in the last 70 years??????
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4728399.shtmlobviously people will believe anything if it suites their political ideology. No sane person believes what you posted.
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KKoz9SBR MVP
- 09-07-06
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#26seems like the neocons are the only ones surprised by this. it's difficult for them to admit bush was a colossal failure cause that would mean they are failures too since they put him in charge.
but bush is 100% at fault for our current crisis...
1. bush ignored 9/11 warnings....... a month prior to 9/11 he was sent an urgent presidential memo warning of an imminent attack. it specifically warned of hijackings by al qaeda members in the us, use of bombs and surveillance of buildings in nyc. so he was basically told where and how. so did bush act? nope, he went golfing and spent the next month on vacation! maybe it was a working vacation? nope, he didn't even discuss the threat with anyone!!!!!!
not surprising even the republican members of the 911 commission found that bush had the proverbial blue print to al qaeda's plans and did nothing.
2. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown......... bush passed the "american dream downpayment act of 2003" which practically gave homes to the poor with bad credit like candy on halloween. not surprising since his largest political donor at the time happened to be the largest subprime lender in the us. bush also removed anti-predatory lending laws which helped subprime lenders skirt any lending laws and prosecution.
2b. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown..... bush and sec deregulated banking laws in 2004 which allowed the top 5 us investment banks to put all their eggs in the subprime basket at the tune of $4 trillion in debt. they collapsed under this mountain of debt which caused the meltdown.
3. bush & cheney manipulated gas prices...... in 2002, bush & cheney purchased 50 million barrels of oil from private refineries which caused the price of barrel of oil to nearly double in price. then invaded iraq which put another 1.3 million barrels of oil per day offline.
gas prices reached $5/gal in some areas which cost an avg driver over $3000 in additional gas costs per year.
4. bush invaded iraq on fabricated lies..... the same lies cia warned bush was non-trustworthy and not to use in his speeches, a full year prior to his war speech!!!!!! bush used the devastation of 9/11 to invade iraq when he had told his biographer 3 years earlier that he intended to invade if he became president.
5. bush lost over 4 million jobs in 1 year..... from 2007-8.
6. us dollar lost 50% of its value under bush.
7. bush raided the social security funds in the tune of $1.3 trillion to pay for his war.
8. bush spied on his own citizens, trampling all over the us constitution.
9. bush & cheney orchestrated a $7 billion war contract to cheney's haliburton, using the law to bypass the bidding process and flat out lying and telling their competitors that no war was coming. even though they had been in negotiations with haliburton for a month!!!!!!!! a bidding process would have saved tax payers billions.
10. bush sat there like a coked up zombie when told america was under attack on 9/11. what a dumbfuk!
so is it any wonder bush received the lowest approval rating of any president in the last 70 years??????
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4728399.shtml
Everything besides that opinion poll (with which Obama is catching up quickly) is bullsh1t propaganda or merely opinions...could make a list of the same just as long for the current admin but what's the point?
Bush had his faults and made mistakes as do all Presidents, but why the hell are we even talking about him? Couldn't possibly be to deflect attention from the sorry a$$ position THIS administration has put us in? What else is new.
Whoever's fault current conditions are (which I believe is both), there can be no solution by blaming anyone.
Unfortunately, the Republicans don't have anyone impressive at this point to offer over the current talking head cheerleader.Comment -
rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 10-05-09
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#27It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be next year. Bush almost lost his 2nd term
bid. It was funny how it was the deciding state that his brother was gov in.
Really can't call it funny since he set the motion of the ocean.Comment -
FuzzyDunlopSBR MVP
- 01-15-11
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#28Obama Goes All Out For Dirty Banker Deal
From one of the most liberal publications in this country. Ironic that Buffett invests about how much this bullshit fine will probably be into BkofAma today.Comment -
jarvolSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-13-10
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#29
March 22, 2007
Senator Barack Obama yesterday defended his votes on behalf of funding the Iraq war.....Comment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
- 09-29-10
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#30He voted for the war's funding therefore he voted for the war and he is still leading the war-mongering machine 2.5 years into his presidency. It ain't that hard to figure out.
March 22, 2007
Senator Barack Obama yesterday defended his votes on behalf of funding the Iraq war.....
so supporting soldiers that are already there for the long haul and who would otherwise be wiped out without funding is supporting bush's decision to invade?
so i guess all the anti-war people that sent care packages, letters and even body armour to soldiers stationed in iraq, must also be war mongerers.
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jarvolSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-13-10
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#31seems like the neocons are the only ones surprised by this. it's difficult for them to admit bush was a colossal failure cause that would mean they are failures too since they put him in charge.
but bush is 100% at fault for our current crisis...
1. bush ignored 9/11 warnings....... a month prior to 9/11 he was sent an urgent presidential memo warning of an imminent attack. it specifically warned of hijackings by al qaeda members in the us, use of bombs and surveillance of buildings in nyc. so he was basically told where and how. so did bush act? nope, he went golfing and spent the next month on vacation! maybe it was a working vacation? nope, he didn't even discuss the threat with anyone!!!!!!
not surprising even the republican members of the 911 commission found that bush had the proverbial blue print to al qaeda's plans and did nothing.
2. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown......... bush passed the "american dream downpayment act of 2003" which practically gave homes to the poor with bad credit like candy on halloween. not surprising since his largest political donor at the time happened to be the largest subprime lender in the us. bush also removed anti-predatory lending laws which helped subprime lenders skirt any lending laws and prosecution.
2b. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown..... bush and sec deregulated banking laws in 2004 which allowed the top 5 us investment banks to put all their eggs in the subprime basket at the tune of $4 trillion in debt. they collapsed under this mountain of debt which caused the meltdown.
3. bush & cheney manipulated gas prices...... in 2002, bush & cheney purchased 50 million barrels of oil from private refineries which caused the price of barrel of oil to nearly double in price. then invaded iraq which put another 1.3 million barrels of oil per day offline.
gas prices reached $5/gal in some areas which cost an avg driver over $3000 in additional gas costs per year.
4. bush invaded iraq on fabricated lies..... the same lies cia warned bush was non-trustworthy and not to use in his speeches, a full year prior to his war speech!!!!!! bush used the devastation of 9/11 to invade iraq when he had told his biographer 3 years earlier that he intended to invade if he became president.
5. bush lost over 4 million jobs in 1 year..... from 2007-8.
6. us dollar lost 50% of its value under bush.
7. bush raided the social security funds in the tune of $1.3 trillion to pay for his war.
8. bush spied on his own citizens, trampling all over the us constitution.
9. bush & cheney orchestrated a $7 billion war contract to cheney's haliburton, using the law to bypass the bidding process and flat out lying and telling their competitors that no war was coming. even though they had been in negotiations with haliburton for a month!!!!!!!! a bidding process would have saved tax payers billions.
10. bush sat there like a coked up zombie when told america was under attack on 9/11. what a dumbfuk!
so is it any wonder bush received the lowest approval rating of any president in the last 70 years??????
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4728399.shtml
I never heard anything about Obama being responsible for the doubling of gas prices during his time in office. Is this thru ignorance, hypocrisy, or has MSNBC not told you he is the cause?
I never hear "news" broadcasts sign off with xxxx days since Obama took office and he still hasn't stopped any of America's wars of aggression. Ignorance or hypocrisy?
I never hear about how Senator and President Obama twice extended the Patriot Act and the same Bush provisions of spying on his own citizens and trampling all over the US Constitution. Ignorance or hypocrisy?Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
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#32and you never willComment -
CarpeDimeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-01-09
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#33
interesting theory
so if you think someone doesn't understand, and is impossible to give an explanation to, and someone else thinks that same thing about you, how do you know who is right?Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
- 103438
#34not at all. Here's an example. If an Obama supporter says that Bush sucks because he spent way to much money while president ... but fails to mention Obama spent more already, in 1/4 of the time. Then my statement makes total sense. If you do not understand Carpe, no explanation is possible.Comment
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