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  • shari91
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-23-10
    • 32661

    #36
    Originally posted by Grandmaster B
    right right US Customers have no impact on your bottom line
    I'm not going to get into one of your trollathons today because I'm actually having a lovely Sunday morning so far, but my reply was in response to Thunder who said that for advertisers the value of their ads would dwindle without US customers. Again, not sure if it's an ego thing or people really aren't aware of how many non-US members there are here, but books that don't even allow US customers aren't going to consider their advertising value diminished even if every US forum member stopped sportsbetting online. Those books aren't buying advertising space because they're looking for US clients obviously.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #37
      We love our position

      1/2 of posters here did not even play at jamaica

      we have all the numbers boys
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      • Grandmaster B
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-05-09
        • 6035

        #38
        Originally posted by shari91
        I'm not going to get into one of your trollathons today because I'm actually having a lovely Sunday morning so far, but my reply was in response to Thunder who said that for advertisers the value of their ads would dwindle without US customers. Again, not sure if it's an ego thing or people really aren't aware of how many non-US members there are here, but books that don't even allow US customers aren't going to consider their advertising value diminished even if every US forum member stopped sportsbetting online. Those books aren't buying advertising space because they're looking for US clients obviously.
        spin it whatever way you like

        when offshore becomes obsolete for customers in the United States (that time is creeping closer and closer)

        your dream job is all done

        trollathon that
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        • stefan084
          SBR MVP
          • 07-21-09
          • 1490

          #39
          Bet Jam not a top book IMO ---limited, late lines--only decent prices are on baseball and they still get killed by 5dimes baseball-I'm glad my account was switched to Heritage
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          • shari91
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-23-10
            • 32661

            #40
            Originally posted by Grandmaster B
            spin it whatever way you like when offshore becomes obsolete for customers in the United States (that time is creeping closer and closer) your dream job is all done trollathon that
            We'll see. Surprised you feel that way though since you're the guy who claims to only "bet" with locals yet you clutter the forum with more posts than many others who actually do bet offshore - both in the US and worldwide. So I guess even if offshore books completely disappeared for Americans, you'll still be providing SBR with traffic right since you already do now?
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            • chilidog
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-05-09
              • 10305

              #41
              According to quantcast:

              This site reaches over 26,628 monthly people, of which 17,936 (67%) are in the U.S. The typical visitor gambles at betus.com, visits nba.com, and watches Fox Sports Network.
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              • Grandmaster B
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-05-09
                • 6035

                #42
                Originally posted by shari91
                We'll see. Surprised you feel that way though since you're the guy who claims to only "bet" with locals yet you clutter the forum with more posts than many others who actually do bet offshore - both in the US and worldwide. So I guess even if offshore books completely disappeared for Americans, you'll still be providing SBR with traffic right since you already do now?
                I bet offshore between 1998 and 2010

                Bowmans used to load my neteller account within 30 mins...I would go to a atm and get CASH

                It wasent until bookmaker started slow paying (citing processing issues of course ) that I decided to quit offshore all together

                I always said once bookmaker goes down or becomes 'hot' so to speak...offshore for the US will have one foot in the grave

                should we start making funeral arrangements?



                p.s. you speak to me and others on the forum like you have a clue about offshore...when in reality all you do is read prepared statements like blowdog becky...its better to keep quiet and seem clueless than to speak and remove all doubt whatsoever
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #43
                  Players will play at C books if that is their only option

                  Most are compulsive gamblers

                  Is business as usual at sbr
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                  • nosniboR11
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-02-08
                    • 10042

                    #44
                    [quote=jjgold;10829821]We love our position Business as usual If yo do not like it move on although you will be back[

                    jj not smart
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                    • Grandmaster B
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-05-09
                      • 6035

                      #45
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      Players will play at C books if that is their only option

                      Most are compulsive gamblers

                      Is business as usual at sbr
                      WOW
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                      • nosniboR11
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-02-08
                        • 10042

                        #46
                        all you are doing is pissing off the usa crowd, more and more I look down on you and your stupid business "skills", makes you look really stupid
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                        • shari91
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 02-23-10
                          • 32661

                          #47
                          Originally posted by chilidog
                          According to quantcast: This site reaches over 26,628 monthly people, of which 17,936 (67%) are in the U.S. The typical visitor gambles at betus.com, visits nba.com, and watches Fox Sports Network.
                          This is for the forum itself. Unfortunately quantcast doesn't have accurate info for sportsbookreview.com. Interesting about betus though - I never would've guessed that.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #48
                            Grandmaster we have done studies

                            If no books were offered we still have SBR book , its real action even if gifts for usa guys

                            we have it all figured out

                            SBR is diverse and saw this coming

                            We have analysts and seeds all over gambling globe

                            Guys its business as usual
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                            • shari91
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 02-23-10
                              • 32661

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Grandmaster B
                              I bet offshore between 1998 and 2010

                              Bowmans used to load my neteller account within 30 mins...I would go to a atm and get CASH

                              It wasent until bookmaker started slow paying (citing processing issues of course ) that I decided to quit offshore all together

                              I always said once bookmaker goes down or becomes 'hot' so to speak...offshore for the US will have one foot in the grave

                              should we start making funeral arrangements?



                              p.s. you speak to me and others on the forum like you have a clue about offshore...when in reality all you do is read prepared statements like blowdog becky...its better to keep quiet and seem clueless than to speak and remove all doubt whatsoever
                              Who is preparing these statements for me? You're the one who doesn't have a clue. You sit here and troll the forum, engaging in threads like "SBR's been sold" and then scurry away when you're wrong. The only times you appear on here are to either flame this forum or me - which is amazing for someone who claims to actually bet. It's actually quite sad that you seem to take great joy in anticipating the doom of SBR. Even more sad that each time you do and it doesn't happen that you just don't disappear completely. Again, for a guy who doesn't bet offshore, post anything gambling related and has his points shut off, the fact that you still feel compelled to come here every day makes me think that even if the entire offshore industry went under tomorrow, SBR's traffic would be just fine. Good luck with your bets.
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                              • nosniboR11
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-02-08
                                • 10042

                                #50
                                JJ you need to watch what you are saying, lying to keep people posting up offshore, could seriously backfire on you. Let someone get there money tied up overseas and have them blame you. You can be found and things could happen. Careful, hate to read about you getting taken out or would I, not sure yet.
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                                • WileOut
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-04-07
                                  • 3844

                                  #51
                                  So the forum is 67% American but if you add in the rest of the site it makes it 50/50. If those numbers are correct that would mean that only 33% of the people who look at the other parts of SBR (outside the forum) are American. That is very interesting/surprising.
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                                  • Grandmaster B
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-05-09
                                    • 6035

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by shari91
                                    Who is preparing these statements for me? You're the one who doesn't have a clue. You sit here and troll the forum, engaging in threads like "SBR's been sold" and then scurry away when you're wrong. The only times you appear on here are to either flame this forum or me - which is amazing for someone who claims to actually bet. It's actually quite sad that you seem to take great joy in anticipating the doom of SBR. Even more sad that each time you do and it doesn't happen that you just don't disappear completely. Again, for a guy who doesn't bet offshore, post anything gambling related and has his points shut off, the fact that you still feel compelled to come here every day makes me think that even if the entire offshore industry went under tomorrow, SBR's traffic would be just fine. Good luck with your bets.
                                    #1. I dont post here everyday

                                    #2. Your are clueless about the offshore industry...some might even say you're borderline shilling but I wont go there

                                    #3. Who cares if SBR got sold...its a forum that people post at...nobody cares who owns it

                                    #4. You depend on SBR for a paycheck

                                    #5. You sold your soul


                                    now who really cares about SBR?
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                                    • THEGREAT30
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-04-08
                                      • 8970

                                      #53
                                      SBR can always lie about the numbers but if they ever had to block all US IP's or deal with the law they would close there doors quickly. Or simply stop dealing with any sportsbook directly.
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                                      • Grandmaster B
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-05-09
                                        • 6035

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by THEGREAT30
                                        SBR can always lie about the numbers but if they ever had to block all US IP's or deal with the law they would close their doors quickly.
                                        will SBR back US player funds 100% at the books they sponsor?
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                                        • compaqDikk
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-08-05
                                          • 5699

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          Grandmaster we have done studies

                                          If no books were offered we still have SBR book , its real action even if gifts for usa guys

                                          we have it all figured out

                                          SBR is diverse and saw this coming

                                          We have analysts and seeds all over gambling globe

                                          Guys its business as usual
                                          it looks like Corbin had his boy all dressed up today
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by nosniboR11
                                            JJ you need to watch what you are saying, lying to keep people posting up offshore, could seriously backfire on you. Let someone get there money tied up overseas and have them blame you. You can be found and things could happen. Careful, hate to read about you getting taken out or would I, not sure yet.
                                            you fukkin drunk

                                            Yeh ok the $100 they might lose

                                            Business as usual

                                            Man you guys have no clue

                                            There could be no books and people would be here and site would be busier than ever

                                            you just do not get it
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                                            • Roadtrip635
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-07-10
                                              • 6129

                                              #57
                                              The OP wrote this with US based members in mind and he is correct that the value in sites like SBR dwindle if this trend continues. I'm not saying that SBR will not continue to make money, it will due to it's worldwide reach. I'm saying the value of SBR to US based members themselves will decrease. If the trend continues, there will be less and less options in offshore sportsbook available to US members, how many more will close their doors to US customers by the end of the year or by this time next year? Some people will pull their cash out of offshore books altogether, some may not reload and many possible future customers will never deposit in the first place due to the instability of offshore betting. There will always be people willing to take that chance with whatever books are left to US customers and some won't and find other ways to gamble. SBR as a gambling tool has less value to the US customers as options become more limited. It's not just about what happened today or on Black Friday for US based customers, it's about where this is heading in the what has become the not so distant future.
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                                              • shari91
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 02-23-10
                                                • 32661

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Grandmaster B
                                                #1. I dont post here everyday #2. Your are clueless about the offshore industry...some might even say you're borderline shilling but I wont go there #3. Who cares if SBR got sold...its a forum that people post at...nobody cares who owns it #4. You depend on SBR for a paycheck #5. You sold your soul now who really cares about SBR?
                                                You have no clue what knowledge I do or don't have. I will say though based on your posts that I'm comfortable in saying I have a bit more of a clue than you. Who cares if SBR got sold?? Then why were you power posting in threads about it at multiple forums? I don't depend on SBR for a paycheck - in fact, didn't you say I got paid in points? I'll be sure to try to cash them out to pay my bills next month. I'm sorry you're irrelevant and are the forum joke with your incessant trolling but you're really not making any sense yet again. Again when I come into a thread to reply to someone else, your panties get wet and you feel the need to converse with me. Sorry pal, I know it's been awhile but I really don't get as excited about our interactions as you do. Time for me to actually put some bets in on the AFL so I'll have to say goodbye for now. Of course, I'm sure you already made a killing today with all of your gambling knowledge. Maybe try contributing something useful and actually sharing that info some time.
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                                                • compaqDikk
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 10-08-05
                                                  • 5699

                                                  #59
                                                  is the sbr castle harboring casey anthony?

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                                                  • Grandmaster B
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-05-09
                                                    • 6035

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by shari91
                                                    You have no clue what knowledge I do or don't have. I will say though based on your posts that I'm comfortable in saying I have a bit more of a clue than you. Who cares if SBR got sold?? Then why were you power posting in threads about it at multiple forums? I don't depend on SBR for a paycheck - in fact, didn't you say I got paid in points? I'll be sure to try to cash them out to pay my bills next month. I'm sorry you're irrelevant and are the forum joke with your incessant trolling but you're really not making any sense yet again. Again when I come into a thread to reply to someone else, your panties get wet and you feel the need to converse with me. Sorry pal, I know it's been awhile but I really don't get as excited about our interactions as you do. Time for me to actually put some bets in on the AFL so I'll have to say goodbye for now. Of course, I'm sure you already made a killing today with all of your gambling knowledge. Maybe try contributing something useful and actually sharing that info some time.
                                                    I can bump at least 25+ thread in the last 4 years with picks I have given out HERE IN PLAYERS TALK...

                                                    you cant say the same

                                                    every time you call me a troll

                                                    shows how much of a shill you really have become
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                                                    • shari91
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-23-10
                                                      • 32661

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Roadtrip635
                                                      The OP wrote this with US based members in mind and he is correct that the value in sites like SBR dwindle if this trend continues. I'm not saying that SBR will not continue to make money, it will due to it's worldwide reach. I'm saying the value of SBR to US based members themselves will decrease. If the trend continues, there will be less and less options in offshore sportsbook available to US members, how many more will close their doors to US customers by the end of the year or by this time next year? Some people will pull their cash out of offshore books altogether, some may not reload and many possible future customers will never deposit in the first place due to the instability of offshore betting. There will always be people willing to take that chance with whatever books are left to US customers and some won't and find other ways to gamble. SBR as a gambling tool has less value to the US customers as options become more limited. It's not just about what happened today or on Black Friday for US based customers, it's about where this is heading in the what has become the not so distant future.
                                                      Honest question: Do you think if every offshore book said no to US customers, that Americans would stop coming here? Based on what I see - especially in PT - a lot of people aren't even using this site for all or any of the gambling tools it offers. Many are here just to socialise, talk about sports, troll, etc... In fact for some I think it's more of a habit or a fun place to hang out online than anything to do with gambling as I suspect quite a few don't even have books funded. There are many people who openly admit that they don't gamble or stopped gambling yet they're still active on the forum so they're still finding value here but it just may not be what one would assume would be the traditional reason for it.
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                                                      • vyomguy
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-08-09
                                                        • 5794

                                                        #62
                                                        The cockiness of jjgold and shari here is unbelievable. Good Luck being employed by SBR 2 years from now.

                                                        If you think SBR can survive without US posters, then you guys are bigger idiots than I initially thought.
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                                                        • shari91
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 02-23-10
                                                          • 32661

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Grandmaster B
                                                          I can bump at least 25+ thread in the last 4 years with picks I have given out HERE IN PLAYERS TALK... you cant say the same every time you call me a troll shows how much of a shill you really have become
                                                          Yeah ok pal. How about I bump my year+ tennis thread with over 200k views? Or any of the AFL threads I've made? Or how about any of the NBA plays I've made? Sorry dude, I post in the appropriate sub forums. Wait... posting in PT is better than that, right? Unreal this guy.
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                                                          • QuantumLeap
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-22-08
                                                            • 6880

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            you fukkin drunk

                                                            Yeh ok the $100 they might lose

                                                            Business as usual

                                                            Man you guys have no clue

                                                            There could be no books and people would be here and site would be busier than ever

                                                            you just do not get it
                                                            If there would be no books where would SBR get their money?
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                                                            • frizzelli
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 08-06-10
                                                              • 8916

                                                              #65
                                                              OP is a thief who gives a fuk about his opinion, the guy is so pathetic he had to steal pennies from fellow posters to feed his degen habit. Stiffs are the scum of the earth.
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                                                              • shari91
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 02-23-10
                                                                • 32661

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by vyomguy
                                                                The cockiness of jjgold and shari here is unbelievable. Good Luck being employed by SBR 2 years from now.

                                                                If you think SBR can survive without US posters, then you guys are bigger idiots than I initially thought.
                                                                Who said SBR can survive without US posters? I responded to someone saying that the books who advertise here have lost value for their money by pointing out that several SBR sponsors don't even take Americans to begin with. Everyone's as equally as important as everyone else and good companies adapt to what they see happening. Ideally someone in the US government grows a pair and stops this insanity sometime soon. There are obviously more important things to worry about than whether Americans want to gamble online.
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                                                                • Extra Innings
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-26-10
                                                                  • 15058

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Here is the breakdown

                                                                  United States 43.2%
                                                                  Russia 6.2%
                                                                  Canada 6.2%
                                                                  India 5.5%
                                                                  Costa Rica 5.1%
                                                                  China 3.4%
                                                                  United Kingdom 2.6%
                                                                  Germany 2.5%
                                                                  Sweden 2.5%
                                                                  Philippines 2.0%
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                                                                  • opie1988
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-12-10
                                                                    • 23429

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by shari91
                                                                    Yeah ok pal. How about I bump my year+ tennis thread with over 200k views? Or any of the AFL threads I've made? Or how about any of the NBA plays I've made? Sorry dude, I post in the appropriate sub forums. Wait... posting in PT is better than that, right? Unreal this guy.
                                                                    Shari-

                                                                    Are you still going to the SBR Bash??

                                                                    Looking forward to seeing you there, hun.
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Posters not going anywhere
                                                                      sbr looked ahead nicely

                                                                      Most here have no clue about sportsbooks

                                                                      Yanks a lock tonight
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                                                                      • Grandmaster B
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 09-05-09
                                                                        • 6035

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by shari91
                                                                        Yeah ok pal. How about I bump my year+ tennis thread with over 200k views? Or any of the AFL threads I've made? Or how about any of the NBA plays I've made? Sorry dude, I post in the appropriate sub forums. Wait... posting in PT is better than that, right? Unreal this guy.
                                                                        nobody cares about your plays buried in a sub forum...trust me on that

                                                                        you dont post your plays in players talk because you dont want them to be seen...and everyone knows the reason why

                                                                        post a play for ALL to see or else your words about 'contributing' are nothing more than the usual fluff you dribble out in your essays

                                                                        nobody cares about your automated views either
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