Why do we tip in casino games like blackjack? Or even poker?

[Dutch]

If I'm up and if they're cool I'll throw 'em a couple of bucks. If I'm up and they're acting bored...fuk 'em.

If I'm down, kiss my ass.

[Dutch]

I'll tip in poker because they have to stay on top of the game, answer questions, count down stacks etc.

[TheBettingMan]

That guy who won over $15 million from A.C. casinos was reported to give $100,000 tip to blackjack dealers on some of his bets.

[plzkthx]

Reality= the more you gamble, the more you lose. So why would you ever play craps, if you want to be profitable?

Craps profitable? I agree with you, no casino table games are. But if you want the best chance to win, yes craps is the best table game out vs any other table games.

[PlatinumBerg]

Reservoir Dogs! I don't agree with tipping, but I do it anyways because everyone will think you are a cheapskate if you don't.

[bettilimbroke999]

Reservoir Dogs! I don't agree with tipping, but I do it anyways because everyone will think you are a cheapskate if you don't.

That scene is reservoir dogs was one of the best scenes in any movie ever bc it said what everyone in the world is already thinking, no one wants to leave or feels they should leave money for someone just doing their job and not even doing it that well but they all do bc society tells them to.

I have talked to friends who are waiters and they just feel shocked when someone doesnt leave or even leaves too small of a tip (they insanely believe 20% to be the standard), since I am a very nice guy I dont say **** you bums you were just doing your jobs how could you feel you deserve 20% of the revenues of the business you work at just for basic service?

If that's the case why doesnt everyone else, cooks, cashiers, busboys, etc deserve 20% as well, they work just as hard if not harder than the girl refilling your coke except they apparently deserve to make almost nothing while the waiters that stand around and refill a couple drinks load their wallets up, its fukin ridiculous

[bettilimbroke999]

That guy who won over $15 million from A.C. casinos was reported to give $100,000 tip to blackjack dealers on some of his bets.

The next time I win 15 million at the casinos I'll remember to tip the dealer

[Cookie Monster]

Tipping is absolutely an arbitrary practice. The practice of tipping simply allows the employer to shirk on the responsibility of paying the worker a living wage. Tipping is the practice of playing the worker and the consumer against each other to the benefit of the employer. This is what the employer gets: he gets to advertise an artificially low price, and he gets to pay his workers a low wage, keeping more profit for himself, because the consumers will pay the worker for him.

This is a flawed system. In an ideal system we would simply have one price where all services and employees wages are built into that price. In fact we do have that "one price" in 99% of the services and products sold in our society. It is only in a specific few that the "one price" method becomes unworkable.

(Taken from a debate in another site)

[bettilimbroke999]

Exactly, I got an oil change the other day and it took like 5 minutes, I was blown away at how fast they got my car in and changed the oil/filter and refilled the fluids...I still didnt tip. It just would've been too awkward to find the mechanic and say heres 3 bucks for an incredibly good job but had that been an industry where tipping was reasonable I would've certainly tipped bc the service was fantastic, instead as a consumer I will reward that business by getting future oil changes there thus more profits for the business. But yes in 99% of businesses the employers are not willing to pay their employees 2 bucks an hour and have them become beggars for the rest of their pay, its a ridiculous system when you think about it bc some doctor that comes in may tip 20 bucks while a janitor taking his wife out on a date tips 2 bucks or maybe nothing, so essentially your pay is completely unreliable and the waiter feels like he was properly paid by the doctor for his work but cheated by the janitor which is ridiculous, the janitor is not a bad guy he is just a paying customer that doesnt have a ton of money to tip with.

I mean why dont restaurants ever do this with their food ya know, when I come in why give me a menu with prices just bring me whatever I order and I'll pay whatever I want when Im done, since restaurants support that system for their employees why not support it for themselves, the reason why is its a fukin ridiculous and offensive system, if a 15-20% pay rate for the person serving me is expected then just raise the prices 15-20% and I will decide if I want to dine there, but having the customer decide whether or not and how much to pay the employees is fuckin ridiculous for both the customer and the employees.

You dont go to Walmart and say okay thatll be 150 bucks and then give the woman 150 and she looks at you like you're scum of the earth because you didnt tip her...fuckin prick buys 150 bucks worth of groceries and doesnt tip shit, next time Im spittin allover his groceries

[Skidcom]

I am pretty sure that I tip way too much and it certainly kills the percentages.

[jetsjets1028]

no idea..cuz if u lose money they dont tip u

[bettilimbroke999]

no idea..cuz if u lose money they dont tip u

Exactly next time a dealer takes my money I want him to reach in his pocket and tip me for him dealing so poorly and then if I win I'll tip him for dealing so well

[Albert Pujols]

How about boycotting the crooked establishments that steal your money instead of stiffing the working class? Everyone that doesn't tip thinks hates the greedy industry but still keeps going back and donating to them? WTF.

[bettilimbroke999]

How about boycotting the crooked establishments that steal your money instead of stiffing the working class? Everyone that doesn't tip thinks hates the greedy industry but still keeps going back and donating to them? WTF.

Women.

If you want a girl to think you're a decent guy you cant always take her to McDs for dates, women and special occasions are the only reasons to go to a nice overpriced restaurant and women are not going to understand your one-man boycott of all nice restaurants in the country bc you dont want to tip

[Albert Pujols]

Women.

If you want a girl to think you're a decent guy you cant always take her to McDs for dates, women and special occasions are the only reasons to go to a nice overpriced restaurant and women are not going to understand your one-man boycott of all nice restaurants in the country bc you dont want to tip

I get that. I was just talking about casinos. I used to play dice but no more. Every single bet, you lose money in the long run. So why willingly hand over hard earned after tax dollars to those scumbags for a cheap thrill? It is stupidity.

[Ibrakadabra]

Why do we ever tip? Casinos or anywhere else...

[warriorfan707]

got dealt 5 aces a few weeks ago in pai gow and went on a tipping spree for weeks

good question

should just keep all the money for ourselves

[Albert Pujols]

Greatest thing about this thread is that the only reason it was started was for a known stiff to tell everyone he bets $50-$200 a hand and come across like a high roller.

[CrimsonQueen]

Tipping is absolutely an arbitrary practice. The practice of tipping simply allows the employer to shirk on the responsibility of paying the worker a living wage. Tipping is the practice of playing the worker and the consumer against each other to the benefit of the employer. This is what the employer gets: he gets to advertise an artificially low price, and he gets to pay his workers a low wage, keeping more profit for himself, because the consumers will pay the worker for him.

This is a flawed system. In an ideal system we would simply have one price where all services and employees wages are built into that price. In fact we do have that "one price" in 99% of the services and products sold in our society. It is only in a specific few that the "one price" method becomes unworkable.

(Taken from a debate in another site)

This is basically what I was going to say, so I will just add that tips have become so socially expected that they are no longer TIPS, but merely TAXES. Even when a waitress is not that great I still feel obligated to tip SOMETHING... If they are TERRIBLE, I wont tip at all.

[hunterwrot]

i try not to tip especially when the dealer keeps looking at me and waiting for a tip

[dealer]

Tipping the dealer is supposed to be a reward for good service. If the dealer is a robot you shouldn't necessarily reward that but if the dealer is upbeat and positive making your play time more enjoyable then you should show your appreciation in the form of a "tip". If the casino paid the employees their wage regardless of their level of service there employees would have no reason to delight the guest, they would be getting their check either way (kind of like an hourly waged employee at mcdonalds has no reason to work his ass off to get you your food fast and with a positive upbeat attitude, he's getting his minimum wage either way)

[sweethook]

few bucks never hurts

[gdoom]

Most individuals feel socially pressured to tip ke food these dealers and so forth. People try to look like big shots and often take food out of their own childrens mouth in hopes of appearing to have money..It makes me sick at times..

[jose21_us]

Its pretty simple I win they get a tip. I lose they can get a dick in there ass for all I care....

[bettilimbroke999]

Its pretty simple I win they get a tip. I lose they can get a dick in there ass for all I care....

I kind of agree with this, at the end of your session if you're up a couple hundred its alright to tip 5 or 10 bucks but these fools tipping every time they win a double down or get a blackjack or whatever are fukin suckers, they end up down 300 at the end of the session, 250 to the casino and 50 in tips, wtf are you tipping 50 bucks for, the dealer robbin you out of of 250?

[Cheme82]

Tipping is a generous practice and part of our culture in the U.S. Most people feel empathy towards others and tipping makes us feel good (the same way you feel good when you give someone a gift even though you didn't get anything in return). A lot of gamblers are know sociopaths and that's why it doesn't surprise me to read a lot of the posts in this thread. Tipping is also the polite thing to do (much like holding a door open for someone else).

A true gentleman is chivalrous, which means he possesses courtesy, generosity, and courage.

[bettilimbroke999]

Empathy for a guy makin 50k a year dealing cards yea right, how bout empathy for the guy makin 15k sweatin under the heat lamps at McDs

Ya gotta be out of your mind to tip a dealer while you're losing at cards...PERIOD!

[jose21_us]

I kind of agree with this, at the end of your session if you're up a couple hundred its alright to tip 5 or 10 bucks but these fools tipping every time they win a double down or get a blackjack or whatever are fukin suckers, they end up down 300 at the end of the session, 250 to the casino and 50 in tips, wtf are you tipping 50 bucks for, the dealer robbin you out of of 250?

I mean shit if you play for 20-30 mins and are up 300-400 bucks a 10 dollar tip is fucken great in my opinion. In the casino I play they charge for drinks. They can very easy give that shit for free. So I put this in consideration before I tip anything.

Then I fuken hate when u lose 200-300 dollars at the blackjack table and the dealer look at u and say better luck next time... I feel like telling them FUK U!!!

[PlatinumBerg]

Tipping is absolutely an arbitrary practice. The practice of tipping simply allows the employer to shirk on the responsibility of paying the worker a living wage. Tipping is the practice of playing the worker and the consumer against each other to the benefit of the employer. This is what the employer gets: he gets to advertise an artificially low price, and he gets to pay his workers a low wage, keeping more profit for himself, because the consumers will pay the worker for him.

This is a flawed system. In an ideal system we would simply have one price where all services and employees wages are built into that price. In fact we do have that "one price" in 99% of the services and products sold in our society. It is only in a specific few that the "one price" method becomes unworkable.

(Taken from a debate in another site)

I was about to say that this is probably the smartest thing that I have read on here, and it turns out that it was copied and pasted from some place else... LoL!

[PokerDave]

Hey Bet, I think you're full of $hit. YOU DON'T HAVE FRIENDS.

[LVHerbie]

Some casinos in the world don't allow their employees to accept tips... I believe Australia is one of them...

[Optional]

Some casinos in the world don't allow their employees to accept tips... I believe Australia is one of them...

The Casino Control Authority licenses dealers, after doing a background check. They say that license holders may not accept tips as it can lead to collusion/unethical behavior.

Plus the dealers are paid properly. $30 to $50 an hour depending on shifts.

People still tip bar/restaurant staff etc, if they love the meal or service. But minimum wage even for a cleaner in an Aussie casino is probably $20/hr so it's not like any staff member walks around thinking they need tips, or should be getting them as some sort of right.

[LVHerbie]

The Casino Control Authority licenses dealers, after doing a background check. They say that license holders may not accept tips as it can lead to collusion/unethical behavior.

Plus the dealers are paid properly. $30 to $50 an hour depending on shifts.

People still tip bar/restaurant staff etc, if they love the meal or service. But minimum wage even for a cleaner in an Aussie casino is probably $20/hr so it's not like any staff member walks around thinking they need tips, or should be getting them as some sort of right.

Interesting.. I wasn't aware of all this info...

[bettilimbroke999]

Hey Bet, I think you're full of $hit. YOU DON'T HAVE FRIENDS.

My cats keep me company

[bettilimbroke999]

The Casino Control Authority licenses dealers, after doing a background check. They say that license holders may not accept tips as it can lead to collusion/unethical behavior.

Plus the dealers are paid properly. $30 to $50 an hour depending on shifts.

People still tip bar/restaurant staff etc, if they love the meal or service. But minimum wage even for a cleaner in an Aussie casino is probably $20/hr so it's not like any staff member walks around thinking they need tips, or should be getting them as some sort of right.

As it should be everywhere, calling dealing the cards to rob you in a rigged game a "service" that deserves tips is ridiculous, casinos in the US are just run by unbelievable tightass scam artists that dont want to give their employees even a microcut of the money they steal from the "customers".