Before anyone here paints me as a liberal "D" let me say I am not that either. Their a bunch of A holes too. But when you compare the 2 The "R's" make me sick. They get on their high "moral" christian beliefs. But dont hesitate to send innocent americans to fight wars that we have no place in. Bail out the richest people in the world, want to build Nuclear power plant next to everyones home, let billionaires cheat a system even more that they alrwady are cheating. But the normal working people (who actually support the economy) cant sit down at the end of the day with their money and play cards or sport sin the confines of their own home
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offshore sportsbooks
will the poker hassle have an affect on offshore books again here we gooooooooooooooooooooooo poverty in good ole usa but the they got money to hassle peopleComment -
write and call your congressman, write and call your senators, write and call the white house. ask them why not one single person from wall street has been indicted for the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the country while at the same time they are going after people who freely transfer thier own money for their own entertainment purposes.
also tell them to support congressman barney franks bill to legalize online gambling.Comment -
I've got one more payout pending and I hope it comes soon then will just rely on books here in Vegas for awhile...Too risky right now in my opinion...Comment -
obviously rght before WSOP
If they were gonna get sportsbooks they woulda did it before superbowl or march madness. most sites start giving away 1000s of WSOP seats right now thats when they can cause the most damage to pokerComment -
Never need payouts. Always lose. Only worry about reloads....
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either way players on both sites will get long withdraw delays
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good time for other poker rooms to get usa players and not many are doing anything. Merge network business should go up but only if they are smartComment -
It's terribly sad that when I plan to play in vegas through satellites online poker. Now guess I have to change my plan.Comment -
I played FT fine last night but now this morning it asks to update the software and it never downloads properly. So NO I can't get on FT.Comment -
At least they weren't "cheating" their players out of money...Only the Government, just like every other large Buseness...So they happened to get caught. But i dare you name me ANY multimillion dollar company who do their business "by the book"
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Meet The Boy Genius Who Just Took Down The Online Poker Industry
The internet is still coming to grips with the huge online gambling bust that just took down the U.S.'s three biggest online poker sites. But Australia's Courier-Mail newspaper already has the scoop on the one man who may have single-handedly built the online industry ... then handed it to the U.S. government on a platter.
According to this story, Daniel Tzvetkoff was a young Australian entrepreneur who set up the payment processing schemes used by the biggest poker sites to handle their (mostly illegal) transactions.
He is described by those who know him as a "boy wonder" and "genius" who started his first company at 13 and knew all the intricacies of e-commerce.
He made Full Tilt Poker and Poker Stars millions of dollars — and made as much as $150,000 a day for himself — but then got even more greedy and started taking their. They sued him, accusing Tzvetkoff of taking more than $100 million of their money.
Then last April, Tzvetkoff was arrested in Las Vegas and charged with the same crimes those sites' founders were charged with today: money laundering, bank fraud, wire fraud. As an Australian citizen with a lot of cash, he was considered a flight risk and denied bail.
Then after a "secret" meeting with prosecutors last August, he was suddenly out on bail. And now his former colleagues are the ones facing serious prison time.
Daniel Tzvetkoff knows the operations of these poker sites inside and out. It was knowledge of the financial industry that allowed them to operate. He's the one man positioned to give the U.S. Attorneys everything they needed to take down their businesses.
And it looks like that's exactly what he did, cooperating with the authorities to avoid his own lengthy jail sentence.
All the major gambling prosecutions in the U.S. since Tzvetkoff's arrest have been run out of the office of Arlo Devlin-Brown, the Manhattan Asst. U.S. Attorney who is Tzvetkoff's "handler."
According to a source, Tzvetkoff "knows how to reverse-engineer transactions to determine its original source," making him very valuable to investigators.
And the biggest irony of all? It's been rumored that the only reason the FBI got their hands on him is because Full Tilt or Poker Stars (the companies he used to work for and stole from) tipped off the FBI that he was going to be traveling to the United States last year.
They ratted him out ... and he turned the tables. No honor among thieves.
And as the Courier Mail put it, if this were still the old days, he'd be buried in the Las Vegas desert right now.
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first time in a long time i havent got any money on these sites!!Comment -
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you won't either.
this is Kaplan and BoS all over again.Comment -
Meet The Boy Genius Who Just Took Down The Online Poker Industry
The internet is still coming to grips with the huge online gambling bust that just took down the U.S.'s three biggest online poker sites. But Australia's Courier-Mail newspaper already has the scoop on the one man who may have single-handedly built the online industry ... then handed it to the U.S. government on a platter.
According to this story, Daniel Tzvetkoff was a young Australian entrepreneur who set up the payment processing schemes used by the biggest poker sites to handle their (mostly illegal) transactions.
He is described by those who know him as a "boy wonder" and "genius" who started his first company at 13 and knew all the intricacies of e-commerce.
He made Full Tilt Poker and Poker Stars millions of dollars — and made as much as $150,000 a day for himself — but then got even more greedy and started taking their. They sued him, accusing Tzvetkoff of taking more than $100 million of their money.
Then last April, Tzvetkoff was arrested in Las Vegas and charged with the same crimes those sites' founders were charged with today: money laundering, bank fraud, wire fraud. As an Australian citizen with a lot of cash, he was considered a flight risk and denied bail.
Then after a "secret" meeting with prosecutors last August, he was suddenly out on bail. And now his former colleagues are the ones facing serious prison time.
Daniel Tzvetkoff knows the operations of these poker sites inside and out. It was knowledge of the financial industry that allowed them to operate. He's the one man positioned to give the U.S. Attorneys everything they needed to take down their businesses.
And it looks like that's exactly what he did, cooperating with the authorities to avoid his own lengthy jail sentence.
All the major gambling prosecutions in the U.S. since Tzvetkoff's arrest have been run out of the office of Arlo Devlin-Brown, the Manhattan Asst. U.S. Attorney who is Tzvetkoff's "handler."
According to a source, Tzvetkoff "knows how to reverse-engineer transactions to determine its original source," making him very valuable to investigators.
And the biggest irony of all? It's been rumored that the only reason the FBI got their hands on him is because Full Tilt or Poker Stars (the companies he used to work for and stole from) tipped off the FBI that he was going to be traveling to the United States last year.
They ratted him out ... and he turned the tables. No honor among thieves.
And as the Courier Mail put it, if this were still the old days, he'd be buried in the Las Vegas desert right now.
Thanks for this. One of the few articles I have read that isn't a news wire repeat type piece. Great jobComment -
What is the update on this guys? I'm Canadian so does that mean my money is seized too?Comment -
100%Originally Posted by dherd
write and call your congressman, write and call your senators, write and call the white house. ask them why not one single person from wall street has been indicted for the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the country while at the same time they are going after people who freely transfer thier own money for their own entertainment purposes.
also tell them to support congressman barney franks bill to legalize online gambling.
If enough noise is made ..it can force lawmakers to act.
The banks hate it also.. it costs them a lot of money for security to determine what is or what isn't a gaming transaction.
The US really screwed the pooch on this one and if could backfire.Comment -
This is all a bunch of bullshit.Comment -
Poker affiliates are gonna take a huge hit.Comment -
I agree with everything you said here. I just can't imagine the ratings will be up and the sponsorship/advertising for the event can't possibly be the same as it was with Tilt & Stars in the US market. I think that's where espn will be hit. Maybe I'm wrong. Like you said, the quality of the event should be better with a smaller field.Comment -
If the casino's and poker rooms/dog tracks take over, we can probably enjoy poorly run games and crappy software with a high rake. If someone like Party comes back with the software and online poker experience, poker could boom again.Comment -
Fukk I'm going to take most of my money out of 5dimes as a precaution. I don't know how i am going to continue gambling on sports if they seize the sportsbooks as well.
Can you call in bets to Vegas Casino's?? That might be my only way after this.Comment
Times are tough
