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  • hhsilver
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-07-07
    • 7375

    #386
    Originally posted by SBR_John
    Agree with the banking but sending that CC info is inviting disaster.
    Is there any way sbr could try to get them to change their mind and allow the wire for <10k? Sending cc info via unencrypted email is scary.
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    • Fishhead
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-11-05
      • 40179

      #387
      Originally posted by SBR_John
      Agree with the banking but sending that CC info is inviting disaster.

      No it is not!

      GEEZUS


      If concerned, here is one precaution I would recommend, upon recieveing payment, call the CC company and get a new number for that card.
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      • todd73nj
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-09-08
        • 824

        #388
        Originally posted by Fishhead
        For those in many other jurisdictions(countries), and a small minority of U.S. clients, Matchbook will continue to provide a great offshore wagering experience, one of the very best in the entire world.
        I guess they offered to keep your account open?

        And that B- is very accurate as most of the SBR ratings are, and B- does not equate to one of the best in the entire world.
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        • Domer
          SBR MVP
          • 01-21-10
          • 1046

          #389
          Originally posted by SBR_John
          Agree with the banking but sending that CC info is inviting disaster.
          I'm not sure disaster is the word I'd go for...its unfortunate, but it's not a huge deal. Pretty much every CC company will refund you if the card is stolen and you report it stolen. So in the incredibly unlikely case that they use it, report it stolen, and it won't cost you a penny.
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          • dynamite140
            SBR MVP
            • 07-05-08
            • 4958

            #390
            Can someone explain the money going to your CC account? Isn't that like a negative balance on it? Can you then transfer the money from the CC to the checking account linked to it? I never heard of something like this
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            • SBR_John
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-12-05
              • 16471

              #391
              Originally posted by Fishhead
              No it is not!

              GEEZUS


              If concerned, here is one precaution I would recommend, upon recieveing payment, call the CC company and get a new number for that card.
              LOL... ok post your cc number, exp date and security code on the back. Because email sniffers will grab that info. Fish, get a grip. There are a lot of people nervous....dont advise them to do something a 4th grader knows is dangerous.
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              • Monte
                SBR MVP
                • 08-21-10
                • 2056

                #392
                Total bullshit btw that they denied it all till today...unfair to their customers, and more.
                One thing is for sure, i won't trust them much in the future, and will try to keep my balance low (if it is worth keeping them anyway, we will see...) -.-
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                • todd73nj
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-09-08
                  • 824

                  #393
                  Originally posted by Domer
                  I'm not sure disaster is the word I'd go for...its unfortunate, but it's not a huge deal. Pretty much every CC company will refund you if the card is stolen and you report it stolen. So in the incredibly unlikely case that they use it, report it stolen, and it won't cost you a penny.
                  Yeah, no big deal. Just report it stolen and get a new card, reattach any autopayments or link ups you have to it, go thru all the mail and shit they send you. Wont cost you a penny. Just a pain in the ass.

                  How about instead of making lite of this books stupidy - you look at it onjectively and realize the final withdrawal options suck? For $35 - Fedex a check.
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82840

                    #394
                    Another one bites the dust!
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                    • wrongturn
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-06-06
                      • 2228

                      #395
                      If you are concerned about CC number, after receiving fund from MB, simply call your card service to change to a new number. Very simple process. Still they should offer more choices though. Sucks.
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                      • Scorpion
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-04-05
                        • 7797

                        #396
                        Originally posted by d2bets
                        The Matchbook betting exchange would like to confirm that it has undergone a change of ownership, pending certain formalities. Upon title transfer, at midnight tonight, Matchbook betting exchange will no longer be facilitating the placement of wagers in jurisdictions where Matchbook operations are seen to be non-compliant.

                        As a result, Matchbook will order the immediate suspension of all gaming business with all accounts registered from a US address, and players who hold such accounts, will no longer be permitted to use the betting exchange. These account holders will be contacted with precise instructions and given 31 days by which they must make a one-time withdrawal of all balances held on the Matchbook betting exchange.
                        ok, so the new owners are worried about the US government....
                        So why do u think matchbook did not contact their US players sooner before the new management took over and say matchbook will be sold withdraw your funds before 2/28?? and why 31 days if they are doing so well?
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                        • Fishhead
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-11-05
                          • 40179

                          #397
                          Originally posted by SBR_John
                          LOL... ok post your cc number, exp date and security code on the back. Because email sniffers will grab that info. Fish, get a grip. There are a lot of people nervous....dont advise them to do something a 4th grader knows is dangerous.

                          They don't ask for the SECURITY CODE!




                          Also, an individual is not responsible for fraudulant use on his or her CC.
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                          • Fishhead
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-11-05
                            • 40179

                            #398
                            Originally posted by wrongturn
                            If you are concerned about CC number, after receiving fund from MB, simply call your card service to change to a new number. Very simple process.

                            +1


                            Also, it's not like they are transferring $104,102 to individual ************........all CC transfers are for those with balances UNDER $10,000.
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                            • sunnyblue88
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 08-11-06
                              • 116

                              #399
                              Full balance has to be withdrawn in one single transaction. It means a huge size wire for a lot of ppl, certainly will raise the red flag in our bank's end. It looks like matchbook is doing everything they can to make the withdrawal hard. They are not afraid of being identified as gambling related transactions and then be blocked? To creat such a big amount of bank wires with huge size in such a short period of time? I really have to question their motivation now. They are trying to creat an opportunity for them to make excuse later on? Our goverment blocks the wire?

                              Can SBR do anything about it? Talk to matchy's new management team, help our players get our funds in a more reasonable way? Thanks.
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                              • todd73nj
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-09-08
                                • 824

                                #400
                                Originally posted by wrongturn
                                If you are concerned about CC number, after receiving fund from MB, simply call your card service to change to a new number. Very simple process.

                                The amount of people here that wont say anything negative about a horribly managed book is amazing.

                                I have never deposited by CC there - why should I withdraw by CC? I dont want to change my CC number. I dont want to cancel my auto pays on Cell phone, Home phone/tv/internet, car insurance, etc - and then have to change them all. I dont want a -$9000 balance on that card either. You dont think that would look extremely strange?

                                "Java Services" -$9000 lol
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                                • Scorpion
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-04-05
                                  • 7797

                                  #401
                                  Originally posted by sunnyblue88
                                  Full balance has to be withdrawn in one single transaction. It means a huge size wire for a lot of ppl, certainly will raise the red flag in our bank's end. It looks like matchbook is doing everything they can to make the withdrawal hard. They are not afraid of being identified as gambling related transactions and then be blocked? To creat such a big amount of bank wires with huge size in such a short period of time? I really have to question their motivation now. They are trying to creat an opportunity for them to make excuse later on? Our goverment blocks the wire?

                                  Can SBR do anything about it? Talk to matchy's new management team, help our players get our funds in a more reasonable way? Thanks.

                                  Matchbook = WSEX II
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                                  • wrongturn
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-06-06
                                    • 2228

                                    #402
                                    At least they should provide a choice of transferring to WSEX. Quickest option. No questions asked.
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                                    • RealSlimShady
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-24-07
                                      • 6249

                                      #403
                                      Time to move on.......going to try out Betmaker. Hopefully liquidity picks up there soon!
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                                      • Bill Dozer
                                        www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                        • 07-12-05
                                        • 10894

                                        #404
                                        Originally posted by geebert74
                                        I transfered my $ to them from BetJam. All I am asking is they send me the money back the same way... They refused to do this... I am not happy about it...
                                        The fee is salt in the wound for anyone who just put their money in. Players went through the hassle to get down and now they have to wait to bet and pay.

                                        They do say they are ready to send funds right now. If they get everyone their money fast at the same time breaking from WSEX, we'll have to give them a good amount of credit.

                                        If anyone didn't get to bet their deposited funds at lease 1x, I'd say you have a strong case for requesting the fee to be waived. It shouldn't cost you to attempt to wager with them.
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                                        • Domer
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-21-10
                                          • 1046

                                          #405
                                          Originally posted by todd73nj
                                          The amount of people here that wont say anything negative about a horribly managed book is amazing.

                                          I have never deposited by CC there - why should I withdraw by CC? I dont want to change my CC number. I dont want to cancel my auto pays on Cell phone, Home phone/tv/internet, car insurance, etc - and then have to change them all. I dont want a -$9000 balance on that card either. You dont think that would look extremely strange?

                                          "Java Services" -$9000 lol

                                          Your CC will not give a crap, and they'll cut you a check for the negative balance.

                                          I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say bad about a company that has been great to me for many, many years. Never had a single withdraw problem, zippo.

                                          Obviously the situation sucks, but the thread on 2p2 put me to ease quite a bit. They have very large money backers.
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                                          • wrongturn
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-06-06
                                            • 2228

                                            #406
                                            Originally posted by todd73nj
                                            The amount of people here that wont say anything negative about a horribly managed book is amazing.

                                            I have never deposited by CC there - why should I withdraw by CC? I dont want to change my CC number. I dont want to cancel my auto pays on Cell phone, Home phone/tv/internet, car insurance, etc - and then have to change them all. I dont want a -$9000 balance on that card either. You dont think that would look extremely strange?

                                            "Java Services" -$9000 lol
                                            Yes, I agree with you. I don't like the option either. But for those who having a spare rare-used CC, it is not that bad.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #407
                                              You guys need to start to look ahead more and have other options

                                              It takes hard work but can be done

                                              Keep your eyes open
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                                              • Fishhead
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-11-05
                                                • 40179

                                                #408
                                                Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                The fee is salt in the wound for anyone who just put their money in. Players went through the hassle to get down and now they have to wait to bet and pay.

                                                They do say they are ready to send funds right now. If they get everyone their money fast at the same time breaking from WSEX, we'll have to give them a good amount of credit.

                                                If anyone didn't get to bet their deposited funds at lease 1x, I'd say you have a strong case for requesting the fee to be waived. It shouldn't cost you to attempt to wager with them.



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                                                • dynamite140
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-05-08
                                                  • 4958

                                                  #409
                                                  Is everyone withdrawing their money now or is it a better idea to do it sometime in a week or 2 jjust to see how it goes?
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                                                  • todd73nj
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 08-09-08
                                                    • 824

                                                    #410
                                                    Originally posted by Domer
                                                    Your CC will not give a crap, and they'll cut you a check for the negative balance.

                                                    I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say bad about a company that has been great to me for many, many years. Never had a single withdraw problem, zippo.

                                                    Obviously the situation sucks, but the thread on 2p2 put me to ease quite a bit. They have very large money backers.

                                                    I dont want a -$9000 balance. I dont use my CC for online gambling. I have NEVER deposited using a CC.

                                                    Send me a check, allow me to do a book to book or allow a wire to anyone no matter what the balance being that there is a fee.

                                                    Those are the only three options I have ever used to withdraw from MB. Id like to use one of them now.
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                                                    • Eagle1958
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-23-10
                                                      • 577

                                                      #411
                                                      Won't miss them at all if they do leave. There are plenty other good books around.
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                                                      • Scorpion
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-04-05
                                                        • 7797

                                                        #412
                                                        Why not give people time to cash out? Seems a little bit ridiculous to do this instantly, so many red flags, seems like US players cant access the site, they dont even want the US players to login and see their balance
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                                                        • Dark Horse
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-14-05
                                                          • 13764

                                                          #413
                                                          Originally posted by lumpy19
                                                          Their live chat just told me 20 cent lines, where'd you get the dimeline info?
                                                          Alex posted that on this forum a few days ago. Post #8: http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...betonline.html
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                                                          • sunnyblue88
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 08-11-06
                                                            • 116

                                                            #414
                                                            Originally posted by Domer
                                                            Your CC will not give a crap, and they'll cut you a check for the negative balance.

                                                            I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say bad about a company that has been great to me for many, many years. Never had a single withdraw problem, zippo.

                                                            Obviously the situation sucks, but the thread on 2p2 put me to ease quite a bit. They have very large money backers.
                                                            Could you share the link of the thread on 2p2? Thanks.
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                                                            • vanzack
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 12-16-06
                                                              • 478

                                                              #415
                                                              Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                              LOL... ok post your cc number, exp date and security code on the back. Because email sniffers will grab that info. Fish, get a grip. There are a lot of people nervous....dont advise them to do something a 4th grader knows is dangerous.
                                                              Most CC's offer a temporary number with temporary expiration date.

                                                              That might be a solution for you guys.

                                                              You go online, ask for a number, request an expiration date - and it is a one time use type of thing. It either expires at the date, or it gets used once and it is done.
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                                                              • linedrivr
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-04-10
                                                                • 2223

                                                                #416
                                                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                Wasn't comparing.........simply stated that MB remains ONE OF THE BEST........... many will continue to enjoy it as much as Betfair, or better.
                                                                how can you even state this as they have new ownership and no one knows what is going to happen in the future with them? Are you part of the new ownership group? if not, your statement above is unfounded and holds ZERO VALIDITY!

                                                                Because of your continued schilling of MB, many of us got caught with our pants down and a large amount of funds tied up there now. Speaking for myself, I would have transferred my funds out of there weeks ago with all the rumors flying around but listening to your bs, I kept it there thinking we were good to go for baseball season.

                                                                I'm a big boy and can deal with the circumstances but I could have done without the headache I will be going through over the next 30 days or so trying to recoup 5 figures from MB and then dealing with my bank explaining why I have a 5 figure international wire hitting my account without them red flagging my account for review to the feds. If I sound real irritated, it's because I AM!

                                                                I can assure you, I am not alone in the feelings I have for your bs schilling!
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                                                                • JerseyLove
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-15-10
                                                                  • 2183

                                                                  #417
                                                                  Oh boy this is not good
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                                                                  • username474
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 01-09-09
                                                                    • 480

                                                                    #418
                                                                    I am sure there are more then a few people that would have like to recieve their balence via b2b. It would have been nice of the previous ownership group to give a heads up to their customers that b2b was about to not be an option. I don't live in the states anymore but I don't really see how MLB & NFL liquidity is going to be the same . Probably not going to be worth it to keep a balence there. We will see.

                                                                    I think I can also give up the fantasy that an exchange is going to one day rule the North American sports market.
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                                                                    • vanzack
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 12-16-06
                                                                      • 478

                                                                      #419
                                                                      Originally posted by vanzack
                                                                      Most CC's offer a temporary number with temporary expiration date.

                                                                      That might be a solution for you guys.

                                                                      You go online, ask for a number, request an expiration date - and it is a one time use type of thing. It either expires at the date, or it gets used once and it is done.
                                                                      I just went online and tried this out.

                                                                      Took me 2 minutes. Might be a good solution for those forced to use CC's.

                                                                      GL
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                                                                      • Mudcat
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 07-21-05
                                                                        • 9287

                                                                        #420
                                                                        This is some terrible news.
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