Changes to the SBR point system: Effective Feb 15

[ProfaneReality]

the jealousy of non pros is dripping in here

200 isnt a fee...we dont have to hand it over... just deposit it and bet it, like we already normally would have.

[THE PROFIT]

the jealousy of non pros is dripping in here

200 isnt a fee...we dont have to hand it over... just deposit it and bet it, like we already normally would have.

thats true, but its $200 that SBR is getting a kickback from when we deposit it & when we lose it, and 90% of us lose it

[Grandmaster B]

oh I know, man, didnt mean it that way.

Remember the poll done a while back about would you pay to be a member here? Well, basically that is what it has or is coming to. Without $200 a year the forum is basically all you get, no points, no store perks, no contests, just the forum

and the people who decide they dont want to pay $200 a year and dont want SBR getting 20% of their losses for life are looked down on and called "jealous" by posters named "profane reality"

sad actually

[ProfaneReality]

so this all boils down to you being mad that sbr makes money ?

do you use a grocery store savings card ? do you get mad at them for making money on your purchases while returning some perks to you ?

[Grandmaster B]

the jealousy of non pros is dripping in here

200 isnt a fee...we dont have to hand it over... just deposit it and bet it, like we already normally would have.

actually drones like you do "hand it over"

actually you bend over and let SBRJohn take your cookies

[ElCapitan]

GMB - you have more of a reason to go pro than anyone. If you forced SBR to give you 12 points a day instead of 6 you'd be able to give more away for posts and cause SBR to spend even more money! Then you'd really be "sticking it to the man"!

[frankthetank]

inflation I suppose. haha

[Grandmaster B]

so this all boils down to you being mad that sbr makes money ?

do you use a grocery store savings card ? do you get mad at them for making money on your purchases while returning some perks to you ?

SBR can make all the money they want but for someone that dosent work there or dosent have a stock in their company running in here to defend their money making practices is hilarious to watch

but keep doing what you're doing though you're smarter than all of us "non pros"

[SBR_John]

How about eliminating non-pros from the points altogether and not changing the prices for pros?

Not in the plans.

We will be giving Pro's a lot more total points in 2011 with a full year of SBR Trivia, SBR Anniversary bonus (100 points per year you are a member), SBR Poker plus there will be a Christmas bonus and bash bonuses and a ton more give aways. The increase helps offset some of that as well as price increases and costs increases.

[Grandmaster B]

GMB - you have more of a reason to go pro than anyone. If you forced SBR to give you 12 points a day instead of 6 you'd be able to give more away for posts and cause SBR to spend even more money! Then you'd really be "sticking it to the man"!

hahahahahahahha

ya they made it so I cant even give away 1cent anymore if I want to give my points to another poster I have to pay $200 a year?

WOW

[tony_come]

I love it!!!

Fighting in the thread...

Too many fukks are ordering free pizzas on sbr/books behalf. Cut this shit out and become a sbrpro if you eat at papa johns lol

[THE PROFIT]

I dont know if this is a discussion about being mad about the PRO status, Im not mad at how it works. I became a PRO, I dont care who makes money off me, its a capitalist economy we live in, I like their business model.

What I dont like is SBR getting paid big bucks to promote these contests & then these books fuk us over. SBR does nothing because thats their cash cow, not us, the players. So I guess each of us would have to pay them $2000 a year before these books get graded fairly, who knows???

[MartinBlank]

and thats the whole thing...this angle is for newbies stepping in clueless

give them a little birdfeed and they will soon too become a brainwashed drone like "martinblank" as in their brain is blank

Is this really that hard for you to understand?

Up your dosage.

1. No one is obligated to deposit with any book.

2. The point system means nothing, and I could give a rat's ass if John ended it tomorrow. I have never purchased a single thing from the SBR store.

3. SBR isn't selling a bad product, even if people want to make a deposit. Their money is safe with every single book in their top 10.

This next one is going to be the toughest for your brain to comprehend, so I will go extra slow.

If someone comes to SBR odds are they are looking for a book to play at----they can't go wrong with BetJam, Greek, 5D, Bookmaker, DSI------I don't think you can argue with that. So, if they deposit with any of those books---and that deposit earns them "SBR Pro" status here----what is the risk?

The picture you are painting is of some noob trolling the internet who just so happens to suddenly want to make a sportsbook deposit and SBR rails them into one of their books--and the noob didn't know any better and never saw it coming, and worse---the noob had his money stolen.

You really think that is how it happens?

[Grandmaster B]

this is the thing for myself, also.
i'm not going to change my book which pays and i trust
just to fool around with SBR points. I come here for handicapping
and sometimes joking around, although there's been way too much
of that lately. Hard to sift through all these new members and the posts.

p.s. if someone knows 100% for sure that one of the books on PRO
list will let you WITHDRAW money with NO PHOTO ID, let me know.

you can with bookmaker but you MUST only deposit with ** or ** AND you will be limited to one withdraw per 8 days AND you will pay 30% withdraw fee

enticing eh?

[SBR_John]

What I mean is don't request a payout from one of your books in August. Just keep the balance their until they approve your Pro membership and then cash out. I always have several hundred in my books at that time of the year because I bet soccer in the summer so I don't see it as a problem if the requirement is $200 or $400 for Pro membership in September 1st.

I need to talk to Bill but you guys can count on the renewal process being easy. You guys are one group we certainly do not want to inconvenience. You will need a $200 balance at a sponsor and thats about it, if its the exact same $200 you used a year earlier - no problem.

[Grandmaster B]

2. The point system means nothing, and I could give a rat's ass if John ended it tomorrow.

more lies

[RudyRuetigger]

ive cashed out over 17,000 points so i like the concept.. but if it were to disappear tomorrow, id still bet the same amount and with the same books

[tony_come]

Sponsors are asking for more players!

[Grandmaster B]

How much do you guys get from the books off of this?

[Mr KLC]

Never thought about becoming a pro before. Might have to consider it now.

[SBR_John]

i love how the worms (read: nonpros) come out of the woodshed now to blame me for this, as i'm sure they would.

except:

1.) i never transferred pts or committed fraud
2.) i never cashed in my pts

so obv changes to both the transfer systems and the price inflation cannot be attributed to me.

if this was a separate countermeasure against me specifically they would've implemented the price increase immediately to prevent me from cashing out immediately.

the amount of illogic is astounding. i am glad that my stated intention was to cash out after superbowl and before price jump though, should i have a reasonable balance remaining.

on the bright side, now all non-pros need not be concerned any further w/ whatever actions i take and can just concentrate on themselves

esp funny in this thread is the behaviour of one "crustyme", who is a non-pro, and has repeatedly emphasized the "worthlessness" of sbr pts. yet all of a sudden he's pissing his pants due to the upcoming regulations. you're a winner, champ, and pts obv are meaningless to you, so why do you care lol.. just keep going 8-0 and you'll have the sufficient dinero to turn pro in no time lol

We have made it clear there will only be two possible price increases a year. After the Superbowl and at the start of football. We certainly want to be fair to everyone who is saving up for something and would encourage everyone to cash in at least the day before the increase takes place. It also helps with the accounting side of things.

[Philavanh]

Not in the plans.

We will be giving Pro's a lot more total points in 2011 with a full year of SBR Trivia, SBR Anniversary bonus (100 points per year you are a member), SBR Poker plus there will be a Christmas bonus and bash bonuses and a ton more give aways. The increase helps offset some of that as well as price increases and costs increases.

No complaints here!!!!!!

[Dirty Sanchez]

I agree with SBR....the Non-pro's are just looking for handouts....there's no free lunch. My grandfather always used to say "If you want to dance...you better be able to pay the fiddler"

[Grandmaster B]

I agree with SBR....the Non-pro's are just looking for handouts....there's no free lunch. My grandfather always used to say "If you want to dance...you better be able to pay the fiddler"

Ive cashed in one $50 freeplay (that needed to be rolled over before cashing out) since the points system was started and I had to hit a 8 team parlay in the SBR book to do so

so where are these "free handouts" you speak of?

[obamaismyuncle]

ive cashed in one $50 freeplay since the points system was started and I had to hit a 8 team parlay in the SBR book to do so

so where are these "free handouts" you speak of?

Odds "Grandmaster B"(a non pro) was going to bitch about something in this thread....-900

[Grandmaster B]

Odds "Grandmaster B"(a non pro) was going to bitch about something in this thread....-900

Odds "obamaismyuncle" has been bitching about Obama since 2009 and also voted for George Bush

-2500

[ACoochy]

Odds "obamaismyuncle" has been bitching about Obama since 2009 and also voted for George Bush -2500

[pavyracer]

Lets do some math here. Lets say you deposit $200 to become a Pro and worst case scenario you lose it all at your book without cashing out. Here is what SBR gives you back. 12 points a day for a year. That's close to 5,000 points. Then even if you answer only the first question right on Trivia twice a week you get 20 points per week. That's another 1000 points a year. Then you get anniversary and Xmas bonus. That's anywhere from 150 to 500 points depending on your anniversary. Then you get 3 free poker tourneys every week. That's another 150 chances for you to win free points or cash at books. So you get back anywhere from 6,000-8,000 points depending on how sharp you are. Even if you don't bet them at the book you can redeem 6,000 points per year. That's 40 pizzas at $10 a piece that's $400. So you spend $200 deposit at the book and get back $400 worth of pizzas. So SBR is basically paying you $200 to become a Pro.

[crustyme]

1.) lol at me being a broke loser, right now i can cashin for 20k freeplay, what can you do other than complain lolol

me: "trixis4dix is a broke loser who needs a free casino to fund his books."

you: "i won $20k in freeplays from the free casino!!!!"

thanks for proving my point, again and again.

2.) again you exhibit downs syndrome, YOU'RE THE ONE complaining in this thread, NOT me, they gave us fair warning, they don't like non-pros, what's YOUR problem? you are winner regardless right.

i did? news to me.

but i did make fun of your pal possibly losing his full time job panhandling for pts.

3.) lol at sbr confiscating pts, obv you mind b/c you've bitching and groaning this entire thread. yet i have specifically said i could care less, if i cared so much about pts like you do i'd be cashin everything right now and then bitching and moaning like you do.

i am on record as saying they should confiscate all the pts and shut down the casino. you are on record bragging about all the stuff you can get for free in the pts store.

and you expect everyone to believe you wouldnt bitch and moan if they really did that? lol

4.) great, 8 months ago before i went on a run i traded in for a betphoenix freeplay, before that i also donated to the haiti rescue fund. what's the problem? does that make me a liar? maybe in your world. hey did you ever piss your bed as a baby? if you say you never piss in your bed now would that make you a liar? i see you don't understand the instrinsic value of something, but it's apparent now you don't understand the concept of time value as well

june isnt 8 months ago. so back then you were so poor that you had to redeem a free play to get any action down but six months later you are now independently wealthy?

yeah sure.

oh wait, you must mean the freeplays again. lol

[Dirty Sanchez]

I need to start studying up...because I think the Trivia questions just became 3x tougher. I need to start preparing for Roller Derby, Luge, and Cricket questions to name a few.

[obamaismyuncle]

Lets do some math here. Lets say you deposit $200 to become a Pro and worst case scenario you lose it all at your book without cashing out. Here is what SBR gives you back. 12 points a day for a year. That's close to 5,000 points. Then even if you answer only the first question right on Trivia twice a week you get 20 points per week. That's another 1000 points a year. Then you get anniversary and Xmas bonus. That's anywhere from 150 to 500 points depending on your anniversary. Then you get 3 free poker tourney's every week. That's another 150 chances for you to win free points or cash at books. So you get back anywhere from 6,000-8,000 points depending on how sharp you are. Even if you don't bet them at the book you can redeem 6,000 points per year. That's 40 pizzas at $10 a piece that's $400. So you spend $200 deposit at the book and get back $400 worth of pizzas. So SBR is basically paying you $200 to become a Pro.

I agree with what you just said. All I am saying is that the $200 minimum to become PRO will be going up to $300 or $400..it's not that big of deal.

[trixtrix]

me: "trixis4dix is a broke loser who needs a free casino to fund his books."

you: "i won $20k in freeplays from the free casino!!!!"

thanks for proving my point, again and again.



i did? news to me.

but i did make fun of your pal possibly losing his full time job panhandling for pts.


i am on record as saying they should confiscate all the pts and shut down the casino. you are on record bragging about all the stuff you can get for free in the pts store.

and you expect everyone to believe you wouldnt bitch and moan if they really did that? lol



june isnt 8 months ago. so back then you were so poor that you had to redeem a free play to get any action down but six months later you are now independently wealthy?

yeah sure.

oh wait, you must mean the freeplays again. lol

are you retarded, like beyond-pavy retarded?

if i cashin for a freeplay then i'm broke in real life? lol, then what does it mean when you trade in your pts for a gift card?

yea you might've missed it, but your first post in this thread was "BOO", as in you're bitching and moaning.

i can see how this can be news to you since your hand can't even differentiate your mouth from your ass

[Joe Dogs]

Time to become a pro boys.

[paco]

Great Post Paver!

[jackpot269]

WE ARE WHO WE THOUGHT WE WERE !!!!!!!!!!!!11


And John,

MERRY FRIGGING CHRISTMAS RIGHT BACK AT'CA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1