If the key were in the ignition then it's considered an offense.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#3
Originally posted by bigboydan
If the key were in the ignition then it's considered an offense.
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Louisvillekid1
SBR Aristocracy
10-17-07
52143
#4
Not sure what your point is, but drinkin and drivin is a very serious thing. . . Kills a ton of people every year. . .
I got my DUI when I was 17 cost me 10,000. I learned my lesson. . .
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#5
Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
Not sure what your point is, but drinkin and drivin is a very serious thing. . . Kills a ton of people every year. . .
I got my DUI when I was 17 cost me 10,000. I learned my lesson. . .
my point? that it happens too often. its ridiculous. thats my point.
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diogee
SBR Posting Legend
01-11-08
19477
#6
Drinking and driving is bad mmkay.
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Robyn
SBR Hall of Famer
02-05-08
9681
#7
Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
Not sure what your point is, but drinkin and drivin is a very serious thing. . . Kills a ton of people every year. . .
I got my DUI when I was 17 cost me 10,000. I learned my lesson. . .
$10,000...really? Why so much??
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Shark79
SBR Posting Legend
11-19-07
11211
#8
Drinking and Driving kills about 3 ppl everyday in CR ... pretty sad sh!t
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diogee
SBR Posting Legend
01-11-08
19477
#9
Originally posted by Shark79
Drinking and Driving kills about 3 ppl everyday in CR ... pretty sad sh!t
That is sad but I will admit that I used to do it a ton before learning the tough way.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#10
drinking and driving is awful but i happens over and over and over again every day.
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Shark79
SBR Posting Legend
11-19-07
11211
#11
PPl simply think "This wont happen to me " and then ... same ol' story
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Shark79
SBR Posting Legend
11-19-07
11211
#12
Unfortunately here ... u kill a person while driving drunk and the law will allow you to the leave the scene ... yes it does happen .. and YES IT IS FVKING STUPID!!
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#13
Fact is, drinking and driving is not illegal. Anybody ever notice there are -- gasp -- parking spaces in front of, and to the side of, and many times in back of, almost every pub, bar and restaurant with drinking licenses in the United States of America?
One of the first ?'s we ask juries during voir dire, actually ... if they are aware of this concept!
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BadNina
SBR Posting Legend
11-27-07
10491
#14
But operating a vehicle with a blood alcohol level above a certain point is illegal. State legislatures have deemed it so and it appears in every code book multiple times.
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Shark79
SBR Posting Legend
11-19-07
11211
#15
Originally posted by moneyline
Fact is, drinking and driving is not illegal. Anybody ever notice there are -- gasp -- parking spaces in front of, and to the side of, and many times in back of, almost every pub, bar and restaurant with drinking licenses in the United States of America?
One of the first ?'s we ask juries during voir dire, actually ... if they are aware of this concept!
We should have patrol units outside of pubs/bars/etc ... and once they sit on the drivers seat ... bam! take the car away and throw that fvker in jail
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thegreatdiatchi
SBR MVP
03-07-08
1154
#16
I'm in the done it and regret it department on this one. While I wasn't really bad in either situation there were 2 times that I could have waited another 30 minutes to an hour before getting behind the wheel. Fortunately nothing happened.
The solution is harsher penalties.
If you kill someone driving drunk i think your license should be suspended for life - and that means for all states, not just the state you are licensed in.
Also, if you cause permanent bodily harm to a person your license should be suspended for at least 20 years.
Lastly, the penalties for basic DUI offenses should be increased - however the legal limit on being drunk should also be increased so we are only penalizing people who are definitely too drunk to drive.
You might have people complaining that the punishments are too harsh. If you can't take the punishment then don't drive drunk.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#17
Nina,
You are correct and oversimplistic at the same time. In FL, they use the Intoxilyzer 8000 to test breath-alcohol. A perfectly functioning machine has a variance of .005 in either direction, meaning if a person blows .081 (.001 over the legal limit), that could actually be a .076 or a .086, or anything in between. Furthermore, testing is done between an hour and an hour-and-a-half after the person was actually driving, thereby not showing the person's BAC at the time they were driving. Finally, the longer you blow, the higher your "score" and there is nothing to monitor how long the breath techs have subjects blow for. Amazingly unscientific for something so allegedly precise.
Any young lady on this site who has had two glasses of wine with dinner has probably flirted with, not only the waiter, but also the BAC limit if she drove. Is she a criminal? Check out your glass houses before you answer ...
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BadNina
SBR Posting Legend
11-27-07
10491
#18
Which is why in cases of accidents, blood test are also required. It is standard for any defense attorney to request the calibration of the equipment used, the officers training on the equipment, and the percentage of error. Same with radar guns for speeding tickets.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#19
In the case of accidents, blood can be taken in FL, and that is only when there is injury involved (i.e. not a fender-bender) -- blood tests are MUCH more accurate than breath tests. Also, MUCH more expensive. Hence, why the state of FL rarely uses them!
Once again, we don't have to request the percentage of error on each machine. It has already been established by expert testimony over and over again. The acceptable ranges of error are as follows.
For .050 -- anywhere from .045 to .055 is acceptable
For .080 -- from .075 to .085
For .020 -- from .019 to .021
Machines are tested every month at these three levels to make sure readings are coming in within these acceptable ranges by a maintenance tech ...
As a matter of fact, a subject gives two breath samples. If one comes in at .081 and the second at .062, the machine is working properly, according to the experts, and a third sample IS NOT taken, as per FDLE regulations. There has to be a variance of .020 or higher between the first two tests in order for a breath tech to take a third and it is NOT UP TO HIS DISCRETION. That's just the way it is!
Wonder how a jury knows which one is right? Wonder how anybody KNOWS, huh?
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Robyn
SBR Hall of Famer
02-05-08
9681
#20
Nina, it sounds like you work for lawyers or something...
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#21
Or she has a few DUI's under her belt. She does live in Alabama, after all:
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BadNina
SBR Posting Legend
11-27-07
10491
#22
Originally posted by Robyn
Nina, it sounds like you work for lawyers or something...
That would be correct
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BadNina
SBR Posting Legend
11-27-07
10491
#23
And I rarely drink.
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Robyn
SBR Hall of Famer
02-05-08
9681
#24
Originally posted by BadNina
And I rarely drink.
All lies.
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Shark79
SBR Posting Legend
11-19-07
11211
#25
Originally posted by BadNina
And I rarely drink alone.
Thats more like it!
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#26
Hopefully they understand standard variances better than you are showing at the moment. Otherwise, their clients will be both lighter in the wallet and, in the case, of multiple offenses, making new and interesting friends in the local jail ... which, in Alabama, brings back memories of those lovely days in Deliverance ...
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Robyn
SBR Hall of Famer
02-05-08
9681
#27
Nina, you are sitting next to the Nolte, btw.
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Shark79
SBR Posting Legend
11-19-07
11211
#28
Originally posted by moneyline
Hopefully they understand standard variances better than you are showing at the moment. Otherwise, their clients will be both lighter in the wallet and, in the case, of multiple offenses, making new and interesting friends in the local jail ... which, in Alabama, brings back memories of those lovely days in Deliverance ...
U dropped the soap?
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#29
Alabama, Mississippi and Arkansas are the three most backwards states we have in the good, old US of A. Scary backwards ...
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Robyn
SBR Hall of Famer
02-05-08
9681
#30
For someone standing in front of a pretty rainbow, you sure do seem disgruntled.
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BadNina
SBR Posting Legend
11-27-07
10491
#31
Originally posted by Robyn
Nina, you are sitting next to the Nolte, btw.
Now I can die a happy woman
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Robyn
SBR Hall of Famer
02-05-08
9681
#32
Yep. Take a bow.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#33
It is the rainbow of knowledge. It prevents me from listening to falsehoods and half-truths without speaking/writing against them. And also causes me to tell the whole truth about certain other things, like the backwards nature of AL and her neighbors!
But heck, I taught Roy Hibbert Jr., the center for the Georgetown Hoyas, in kindergarten (and he liked me as a teacher), so I guess I can't be ALL bad
(oh, and $10 to the person who knows where the rainbow in the picture is from -- a hint: it ain't Alabama)
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BadNina
SBR Posting Legend
11-27-07
10491
#34
Originally posted by moneyline
Hopefully they understand standard variances better than you are showing at the moment. Otherwise, their clients will be both lighter in the wallet and, in the case, of multiple offenses, making new and interesting friends in the local jail ... which, in Alabama, brings back memories of those lovely days in Deliverance ...
It takes about 3 DUI's within a certain number of years to evebn qualify for felony DUIs. A plain ol' DUI is a misdemeanor. The fine varies from city to city or county to county. My wee little town is also what is known as a "dry" county. There is no alcohol sold here. So not many people want to spend the money for an attorney when they can attend DUI Class and get a slap on the wrist.
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Shark79
SBR Posting Legend
11-19-07
11211
#35
Originally posted by BadNina
It takes about 3 DUI's within a certain number of years to evebn qualify for felony DUIs. A plain ol' DUI is a misdemeanor. The fine varies from city to city or county to county. My wee little town is also what is known as a "dry" county. There is no alcohol sold here. So not many people want to spend the money for an attorney when they can attend DUI Class and get a slap on the wrist.