id love to see a rugby standout go head to head w/ igor olshansky
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they would probably use safeties, linebackers, and defensive linemen...some d ends are the most athletic people on the fieldComment -
The kicking in it is just like nfl tho. U get less points for kicking it through. Scoring passed the goal line u get the most points. I'm not gonna lie and say i know all the rules. But i know some.
I see them pitching the ball 5-6 times until they get in on the edge so they can go 1 on 1. Imagine pitching to a guy like brian westbrook on the edge 1 on 1 with a much slower rugby man. West would score 9/10 times on that.
I would go with mostly rbs to be honest with ya. You'll need some lbs in there to sure up the defense. But rbs can tackle as well.
From what i've seen rubgy is basically all running and pitching, so i'd want the best guys who can take the defensive man 1 on 1. They also run inside in rugby. So i'd take a few guys who can move the pile like larry johnson and stephen jackson.Comment -
So if soccer is constant action is that why they just kick the ball down the field and hope someone will go run and chase it? Soccer is boring to watch, they pass it back in forth. 90% of the game occurs near midfield. Its boring and retarded to watch.
Europe is more tolerant of homosexuals. America isn't. Homosexual players would never knowingly be drafted or signed to contract in the NFL.
Soccer players are tough, but to say there are tougher than american football players is a joke. They might get slide tackled 5-10x a match depending on position. They are trying to get the ball/trip your legs. I don't know anyone whose died as a result to a injury from soccer. Also the NFL injuries are often more severe and numerous than soccer related injuries.
Anyone can have a heart attack, not everyone dies due injuries from playing a sport. NFL players have been permentely disabled and even died from injuries sustained from playing the sport. Soccer is a bunch of european pussies, that only rejected atheletes that couldn't make it in football/basketball/baseball, then they see soccer and give it a try. Thats the mentality in the US and thats why we will never be a premier soccer power. Our athletes have real sports to play.Comment -
Julius Peppers, Mario Williams, Demarcus Ware, Shawn Merriman, those kind of defensive players with size and strength would be on my rugby team. Then I would throw in some of the tougher db's like Bob Sanders, Troy Polumalu, (Sean Taylor), those kind of players. The rugby team would have no chanceComment -
You will still lose because the real rugby team with the real punters will be punting the ball 50-60 yds all the time to your end zone and then force you to start your attack from your own end because they know your team will not have anyone in the field that can punt more than 5 yards. Your NFL team will be so much exausted in the first half from having to constanly start from their own endzone that second half will be a walk in the park for the pro rugby team.Comment -
i do think a professional rugby team would beat nfl's most fit players to form a team...just like i think you take rugby's best suited for an nfl game they would get dominated...its comparing apples to oranges...rugby is a "tougher" sport, but i think football has more "athletic" playersComment -
Devin Hester would be on my team and nobody on the Rugby team would be able to catch him.... game over NFL players win no doubt about itComment -
It all depends on how you define tough.
Personally I think the toughest sport in America is football because that is what the toughest guys in America play.
In America the guys who cant hack it in football go out and beat the hell out of each other playing rugby. Since they are lower quality athletes bashing each other its not as tough.
Americans hate soccer because you can benefit greatly from flopping around on the ground and pretending to be hurt. The rest of the world sees it as gamesmanship but Americans see it as poosy shyte.
Basketball players are being wheel chaired off the court because of shoulder injuries these days so bball is also seen as a poosy sport here. And don't get me started on taking a charge. There is nothing gayer then letting another man run you over while you stand there cowaring and guarding your junk.
I don't know anything about Hockey but those are guys are literally risking their necks out their so you'd have to call hockey a tough sport.
All in all I'd have to say that in America Football is the toughest sport.
1. Its not exlusionary like basketball and soccer. You cant play basketball at under 6 feet and you cant play soccer if you weigh more than 185 I'm guessing but football includes all shapes and sizes. So if you are at the top of pro football you have beaten all comers, not some small group of those who have similar genetics.
2. There isnt another sport in the world that generates these type of collision. The pads dont prohibit pain or injury as much as they allow a grown beast of a man to propel himself as if he were ballistic. Alot of dumbasszzes assume that the pads soften blows. No dipsticks, the pads allow me to throw myself through your midsection at 25mph without cracking my skull. Those ribs are still going to break. Your brain is still going to ricochet off your skull.
A funny aside about soccer. Aren't the fans usually tougher than the players?????Comment -
I don't believe this. There's a reason nfl men hardly have any body fat. B/c they are elite athletes. In training camp they run run run do drills etc. NFL training camp has to be one of the toughest things to complete. The wrs run 50 yds every play at full speed. RBs carry the ball 25 times a game, block, run for their lives, not like they don't do much either. So there's no way endurance of rugby men is better. Hence , thats why they carry more fat on their bodies.
Rugby men hit the bars after each game and booze up. No way they win ImoComment -
I actually don't mind soccer. Just when people act like soccer is one of the "toughest" sports i laugh. Those guys get paid well, play in front of huge crowds. I wouldn;t knock soccer. I think it's pretty good, i just like other sports better. I watched some games on tv, the crowd chants and is active, making the games exciting. Not a bad sport at all IMO, just not "tough"Comment -
its the fact that they have played the game their entire life...if you are a professional at your sport there is no way you are going to lose against an unexperienced team that hasnt played the game...i think nfl players are arguably the most athletic people in the world dont get me wrong...but just because you excel at one sport does not mean you will excel at a somewhat similar sport...Comment -
Well, I was figuring nfl men would get a week or two to practice and learn the rules. I just think the speed of the nfl players is the biggest factor. If they create 1 on 1 matchups with the rugby players then they will be in trouble.
I know what u are saying about thats what they've done for their whole lives. I usually take the side of people do it their whole lives. But in this case, i just see the nfl men having the same power if not more and a decisive speed advantage so i can't see how they'd lose.Comment -
May I remind you that US pro athletes are not as good as the media makes them you think they are. When the US national basketball team is consistenly beaten by a bunch of skinny ugly white guys from Argentina, Spain, Greece, Italy or Lithuania then you know that a pro rugby team has as good of a chance of beating your NFL all star team in a rugby game.Comment -
Baskets is different to me. The teams were set up bad. International rules allowed for much less physical play. So the advantage the nba guys had was gone. It was much more about shooting and the US had mostly slashers and guys who can take it to the hole. They tried doing that against zone ds and had no chance.Comment -
I can't wait for this summer. The ugly skinny white guys aren't going to be playing the B team anymore. There was a day when the f team was still better than the rest of the world and that has changed. Kudos to the ugly skinny white guys for catching up. However the A team is a much different story.
The A team is going to Beijing this summer. Ummm you're going to be bitter if you are routing against American Bball this summer so just get on the wagon babyComment -
so u are basing how popular or how great a sport is on how much it costs to play? thats basically what u just said right. that really goes to show ur a complete moron.
and u are truely oblivious on how much soccer players get paid throughout the world, arent u. they make football players contracts seem as if they are the specs that work in the USA.Comment -
95% of all other countries are poor they cant afford the equipment to play football, baseball, hockey, etc... So they play soccer and basketball.Comment -
it has nothing to do with the cost of equipment. off the top of ur head u cant tell me 10 players in the NFL that were born and raised outside of the USA. there are plenty of wealth countries where they could buy this so called exspensive quipment to play these sports. u know what, the most exspensive sport is probably hockey. and hmm.... 90% of the players in the NHL are hmm lets see.... not from american. so ur 'it costs too much money for these ppl to buy the proper equipment' excuse holds no water at all. ur just too hard headed and stubborn to admitt soccer is the most popular sport in the world, always has been and always will be. end of story. NFL will never have any teams outside of americaComment -
soccer is a great sport and a tough sport. when people try and play it they realize how tough and physical it really isComment -
At the highest level any sport is life or death. If you don't play with that attitude you don't belong at the highest level. So the whole argument about which sport is tougher is about as interesting as the question if the Patriots will go undefeated. Frankly, I see no difference with kids in a sandbox quarreling about who's father is stronger.
From a gambling perspective any sport where I have an edge is a great sport. Recently added NHL dogs to my 'portfolio'. Never cared for hockey, but now I love it.Comment -
To all the retards claiming football players would kill rugby players:
I hope you realize that rugby requires far, far more endurance than football and that rugby players have to sacrifice some power for endurance.
Also, if you think you could take a team of football players and have them beat the All Blacks in rugby, you're delusional. I'd be willing to wager every penny I have on it and probably on any point spread under 100 given that the game wasn't played in a monsoon.Comment
