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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    college hoops sanity check
    3 questions for div I:
    1. What is average home mov?
    2. What % of time does home team win?
    3. What is proper HFA adjustment?
  • TPowell
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-21-08
    • 18842

    #2
    I would put home court worth around 4 points on average. Home team wins over 70% of team IIRC (mostly because top teams don't travel)
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    • Brock Landers
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 06-30-08
      • 45359

      #3
      Originally posted by Justin7
      3 questions for div I: 1. What is average home mov? 2. What % of time does home team win? 3. What is proper HFA adjustment?
      quit using home made acronyms and maybe i could answer for you
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82812

        #4
        be careful with these early tournaments. the listed home team plays on neutral court.
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        • Brock Landers
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 06-30-08
          • 45359

          #5
          Originally posted by pavyracer
          be careful with these early tournaments. the listed home team plays on neutral court.
          ALWAYS check where the game is being played, you are right, lots of neutral courts this time of year
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          • dwaechte
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-27-07
            • 5481

            #6
            Originally posted by Brock Landers
            ALWAYS check where the game is being played, you are right, lots of neutral courts this time of year
            No such thing as a neutral court
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            • Christina33
              SBR Sharp
              • 10-16-10
              • 494

              #7
              Originally posted by pavyracer
              be careful with these early tournaments. the listed home team plays on neutral court.
              Solid post
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              • Christina33
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-16-10
                • 494

                #8
                Originally posted by dwaechte
                No such thing as a neutral court
                Epic Fail
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                • Christina33
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 10-16-10
                  • 494

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Brock Landers
                  ALWAYS check where the game is being played, you are right, lots of neutral courts this time of year
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82812

                    #10
                    If you are using a system based on home court advantage throw it out if the game is played in Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico or Hawaii or Alaska.
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                    • Justin7
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-31-06
                      • 8577

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                      If you are using a system based on home court advantage throw is out if the game is played in Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico or Hawaii or Alaska.

                      Not all HFAs are created equally (maybe?)... but you need a baseline before deciding whether one is more or less than normal.
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                      • dwaechte
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-27-07
                        • 5481

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Christina33
                        Epic Fail
                        I think you may have missed the point.
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82812

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Justin7
                          Not all HFAs are created equally (maybe?)... but you need a baseline before deciding whether one is more or less than normal.
                          If I had a system I would try it first only on divisional games. These are the games that the fans can create a true HFA.
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                          • Extra Innings
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-26-10
                            • 15058

                            #14
                            Justin...Do I need to hold your hand through this?
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                            • MartinBlank
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-20-08
                              • 8382

                              #15
                              These pre-season tournaments are a coin flip.

                              Dare we say Chaminade?
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                              • GiveMeaBJ
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-08-09
                                • 8449

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MartinBlank
                                These pre-season tournaments are a coin flip.

                                Dare we say Chaminade?
                                Sorry Martin but this is way off. As long as you do your research in the off-season you will be in great shape for these tournaments. Feast Week has been my most profitable week for each of the past three years. Nice low spreads. 1H unders, 2H overs. DD faves 1H. It's easier then conference play.
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                                • Extra Innings
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-26-10
                                  • 15058

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by GiveMeaBJ

                                  Sorry Martin but this is way off. As long as you do your research in the off-season you will be in great shape for these tournaments. Feast Week has been my most profitable week for each of the past three years. Nice low spreads. 1H unders, 2H overs. DD faves 1H. It's easier then conference play.
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                                  • Justin7
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-31-06
                                    • 8577

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Extra Innings
                                    Justin...Do I need to hold your hand through this?
                                    If you match my hit-rate on baskets plays, you can hold anything of mine you like. Until that happens, stick to math.
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                                    • TPowell
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-21-08
                                      • 18842

                                      #19
                                      Justin, how much math can one use in NCAAB now? Totals are basically a thing of the past with limits and late releases. Teasers and pleasers aren't good plays IMO. Outside of sides, there isn't a lot ot bet on which is a shame IMO
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                                      • Justin7
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-31-06
                                        • 8577

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TPowell
                                        Justin, how much math can one use in NCAAB now? Totals are basically a thing of the past with limits and late releases. Teasers and pleasers aren't good plays IMO. Outside of sides, there isn't a lot ot bet on which is a shame IMO
                                        The markets in NCAAB are smaller than in beavers. Ergo, they are easier to beat. I ran my beaver model with no tweaks on NCAAB. First pass, with no adjustments, I found some small advantages betting 100% of the MLs (on a 3000 game season). Make no mistakes about this. NCAAB is perhaps the easiest sport for modelers to beat.
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