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  • MendozaLine
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    • 01-11-10
    • 4088

    #1
    imagine how good bama would be
    If they had a decent QB. Lets not kid ourselves here, they win in spite of this kid, not because of him.
  • KKoz9
    SBR MVP
    • 09-07-06
    • 1982

    #2
    Yeah he sucks.

    He's lost ONE game...ever, since junior high.

    He gets it done - PERIOD.
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    • Sam Odom
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-30-05
      • 58063

      #3
      should'a out bid auburn for newton
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      • MendozaLine
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        • 01-11-10
        • 4088

        #4
        has he ever been on a team that wasn't stacked on both sides of the ball?
        Originally posted by KKoz9
        Yeah he sucks.

        He's lost ONE game...ever, since junior high.

        He gets it done - PERIOD.
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        • KKoz9
          SBR MVP
          • 09-07-06
          • 1982

          #5
          Not sure of any other details...but this isn't SE Tennessee St he's starting for - Bama doesn't recruit scrubs
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          • Cubs4591
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            • 12-23-09
            • 330

            #6
            What a ridculous comment! They are not as good as last year and their qb is not that bad!
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            • seaborneq
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              • 09-08-06
              • 22556

              #7
              Bama has gotten too arrogant and fancy. You have a heisman winner and an all sec rb in your backfield and you don't run the ball at least 40 times a game. Give me a break. All this five wides and spread stuff when you have the horses to grind opponents is just sissified sickening. That is all that is wrong with Bama. It all started going downhill when they beat JoePa in a beauty pageant game by coming out and throwing the ball the entire first quarter instead of beating and bruising the Lions. End of season right there.
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              • ZBOIZ
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-22-08
                • 21464

                #8
                This is STUPID!!

                Imagine how good LSU would be with Mcelroy!! How about that question! Mcelroy is 10 times better than what we have and you people are complaining!!

                LSU is full of talent with no QB!
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                • CBASS
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-22-10
                  • 2613

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                  This is STUPID!!

                  Imagine how good LSU would be with Mcelroy!! How about that question! Mcelroy is 10 times better than what we have and you people are complaining!!

                  LSU is full of talent with no QB!

                  This x 1000
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                  • The Seer
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-29-07
                    • 10641

                    #10
                    Originally posted by seaborneq
                    Bama has gotten too arrogant and fancy. You have a heisman winner and an all sec rb in your backfield and you don't run the ball at least 40 times a game. Give me a break. All this five wides and spread stuff when you have the horses to grind opponents is just sissified sickening. That is all that is wrong with Bama. It all started going downhill when they beat JoePa in a beauty pageant game by coming out and throwing the ball the entire first quarter instead of beating and bruising the Lions. End of season right there.
                    totally agreed
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                    • Sunde91
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-26-09
                      • 8325

                      #11
                      Hmm, the guy has lost 2 games lifetime, has 2k yds, 70% completion (5th in country), 14 TDs to 4 INTS, and is one of the better game-managers in college, which is what Bama needs, except they've gone away from the run and expect him to sling it around up and down the field against LSU's #4 ranked Pass Defense..

                      Also, their defense is what put them in a hole forcing them to pass more too. They gave up 24 points to LSU...even Auburn, who just gave up 24 to CHATTANOOGA, held LSU to 17. WVU just 20..

                      Great thread.
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                      • BadNina
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-27-07
                        • 10491

                        #12
                        Bama's O line isn't as good as it was last year. And yes, their offensive play calling is getting predictable and stale. They need to throw in a few wrinkles in the plays they already have. Even with that late game fumble I wouldn't trade Greg Mac for any other QB to manage my team. He wins for you more times than not. We got lucky when Mike Shula out recruited Mike Leach for him.
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                        • Kubilak
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 10-04-10
                          • 125

                          #13
                          I'm a big bama fan, sadly I'm not drunk on Crimson Kool Aid and I'm willing to give you an objective review.

                          Arm Strength - Above Average
                          Mobility - Average
                          Pocket Presence - Beyond Terrible
                          Vision - Legally Blind I think
                          Accuracy - Above Average
                          Ability to throw the long ball - Maybe he'll try one at the combine but he sure as hell doesn't throw GO routes to Maze or Julio very often.
                          Screen pass to the Half Back - AMAZING
                          Escapability - Think Brett Favre vs. Michael Strahan.. except worse

                          As for Bama's lack of a running game it is a direct result of our inability to open up holes with the Offensive Line, they just aren't creating space this year.

                          I'll also throw our special teams coach under the bus. Should have fired the guy last season after we went 0-4 on onside kicks (just wait the first team to try one on us will recover it). Not to mention we are the easiest team to try a fake punt/fg on. We don't block punts, and we don't set up returns.

                          I said at the beginning of the year we'd lose @LSU, plus two others. Saban is a great coach, we have a very talented young defense, but this offense was never designed to carry a young defense.

                          I'm not saying he's a bad QB. I'm just saying he is the reason we have two losses this season. He took 9 sacks against a mediocre South Carolina defense that amassed 9 sacks despite inadequate pressure. He refuses to run out of bounds, throw the ball away, or "fit the ball into space". It feels like after each drive he goes well I went 2/2 for 18 yards so what if I took 3 sacks.

                          His stats may not show it but he's terrible. Who was the last QB to have more sacks in a game than imcompletions?
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                          • CBASS
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-22-10
                            • 2613

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kubilak
                            I'm a big bama fan, sadly I'm not drunk on Crimson Kool Aid and I'm willing to give you an objective review.

                            Arm Strength - Above Average
                            Mobility - Average
                            Pocket Presence - Beyond Terrible
                            Vision - Legally Blind I think
                            Accuracy - Above Average
                            Ability to throw the long ball - Maybe he'll try one at the combine but he sure as hell doesn't throw GO routes to Maze or Julio very often.
                            Screen pass to the Half Back - AMAZING
                            Escapability - Think Brett Favre vs. Michael Strahan.. except worse

                            As for Bama's lack of a running game it is a direct result of our inability to open up holes with the Offensive Line, they just aren't creating space this year.

                            I'll also throw our special teams coach under the bus. Should have fired the guy last season after we went 0-4 on onside kicks (just wait the first team to try one on us will recover it). Not to mention we are the easiest team to try a fake punt/fg on. We don't block punts, and we don't set up returns.

                            I said at the beginning of the year we'd lose @LSU, plus two others. Saban is a great coach, we have a very talented young defense, but this offense was never designed to carry a young defense.

                            I'm not saying he's a bad QB. I'm just saying he is the reason we have two losses this season. He took 9 sacks against a mediocre South Carolina defense that amassed 9 sacks despite inadequate pressure. He refuses to run out of bounds, throw the ball away, or "fit the ball into space". It feels like after each drive he goes well I went 2/2 for 18 yards so what if I took 3 sacks.

                            His stats may not show it but he's terrible. Who was the last QB to have more sacks in a game than imcompletions?

                            He has a National Championship and has only lost 2 games since he was in 8th grade.

                            I can't stand when people refuse to give credit where it is due: LSU and their defense.
                            Stop making all these bs excuses and just say: LSU played a great game. PERIOD
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                            • The Seer
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-29-07
                              • 10641

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CBASS
                              He has a National Championship and has only lost 2 games since he was in 8th grade. I can't stand when people refuse to give credit where it is due: LSU and their defense. Stop making all these bs excuses and just say: LSU played a great game. PERIOD
                              LSU outplayed and outcoached Bama.
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                              • antifoil
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-11-09
                                • 3993

                                #16
                                no kidding think how good lsu would be if they had a qb. they beat alabama with a worst qb than alabama has. lsu must be really, really good then.
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                                • ZBOIZ
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-22-08
                                  • 21464

                                  #17
                                  ^^^ they are...

                                  I been telling people this for a while! If LSU had a decent QB they would easily be undefeated right now
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                                  • Kubilak
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 10-04-10
                                    • 125

                                    #18
                                    Their QB took less sacks and had less turnovers than McElroy.

                                    Bama won the NC in SPITE of McElroy look at the games last year vs. Auburn, South Carolina, Tennessee... not to mention his play in the National Championship game.

                                    Quit saying he's so amazing because he's only lost 2 games, put him on Auburn's team and show me the 7 games they win this year.

                                    He's not good, if we had Aaron Murray as our starting QB we'd probably be undefeated.
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                                    • dante1
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 10-31-05
                                      • 38647

                                      #19
                                      So the QB sucks and the team sucks. This is Alabama people, I would not be surprised if they beat Auburn. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they are the chalk in that game. And I hope they do beat them.
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                                      • antifoil
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-11-09
                                        • 3993

                                        #20
                                        me too because i want to see tcu d against the ducks o.


                                        maybe the sacks and turnover of mcelory has more to do with lsu defense than him as a qb. which could mean alabama's defense is really not very good if they didnt get any turnovers against the lsu qb.
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                                        • CBASS
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-22-10
                                          • 2613

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Kubilak
                                          Their QB took less sacks and had less turnovers than McElroy.

                                          Bama won the NC in SPITE of McElroy look at the games last year vs. Auburn, South Carolina, Tennessee... not to mention his play in the National Championship game.

                                          Quit saying he's so amazing because he's only lost 2 games, put him on Auburn's team and show me the 7 games they win this year.

                                          He's not good, if we had Aaron Murray as our starting QB we'd probably be undefeated.
                                          Don't blame McElroy for the loss. Credit LSU for their better overall play in that game. End of story.

                                          P.S. If LSU had McElroy, LSU would probably be undefeated.
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                                          • dante1
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                                            • 10-31-05
                                            • 38647

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by antifoil
                                            me too because i want to see tcu d against the ducks o.

                                            lol My reason is personal, I want a Boise State national championship because I have a significant play on them at 10 to one. Never happen unless I get really lucky.
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                                            • WorkHorse
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                                              • 08-22-10
                                              • 2185

                                              #23
                                              McElroy does exactly what Saban wants with the offense.

                                              Bama's problems on offense come from poor line play and bad play calling. Ever see any plays called for Ingram or Richardson to run outside the tackles.

                                              I'm a Bama fan and have ZERO problem with McElroy....but sure can't figure out what they are trying to do with play calls. It's like they pull the plays out of a hat.
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                                              • BadNina
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                                                • 11-27-07
                                                • 10491

                                                #24
                                                defenses stack the box against Bama because they know Bama isn't going to go downfield on them. If I can tell what play they are going to run while sitting on my couch then I figure other coaches can figure it out too. Way too predictable. And word from Mrs. Saban is that her husband was pissed off after that game.
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                                                • utmoody10
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                                                  • 11-19-08
                                                  • 304

                                                  #25
                                                  They could use a pass rush too. This is a defense who lost a lot last year and have played well for the most part but in no way are they comparable to last year. McElroy is what he is, an above average QB who with the right players around him is capable of winning it all. If you think McElroy is bad try watching Matt Simms play for half a year, then you see what I have to put up with.
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                                                  • eonizuka
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 10-22-10
                                                    • 152

                                                    #26
                                                    The offensive line is the problem with Bama. It just isn't getting that push and opening up holes against good defenses like it was able to do last year. I don't think QB play was the reason for Bama's two loses. With LSU, they have been great at stopping the run all season.
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                                                    • jwbama23
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-17-10
                                                      • 2373

                                                      #27
                                                      This is kind of a dumb thread. McElroy is not our problem. He is not even close. The problem is the intensity. The team seems to lack the passion it used to have. They have played this season the way teams play after they have reached the pinnacle. What made Bama so good last year is they were on a mission to win it all. This year they have played more not to lose. No attacking. Ultra conservative play calling, etc etc etc.

                                                      On a better note, it looks like shit is hitting the fan on the plains........
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                                                      • gman2114
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 10-20-09
                                                        • 418

                                                        #28
                                                        how cares. go boise state
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                                                        • BigdaddyQH
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                                                          • 07-13-09
                                                          • 19530

                                                          #29
                                                          The problem is that NO team has ever repeated as NC since the inception if the BCS. Only a handful have made it to two BCS Championship games in a row, and none have won both. Only the great USC teams in 03-04 win back to back AP titles. When you are the champ, everyone guns for you, especially if you are returning the Hirsman winner and all the other skill players. Alabama simply could not withstand the pressure. Blaming it on their QB is about as stupid as it gets.
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                                                          • jwbama23
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                                                            • 01-17-10
                                                            • 2373

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by gman2114
                                                            how cares. go boise state
                                                            Obviously you do or you wouldnt of voluntarily clicked on this thread
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                                                            • jwbama23
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-17-10
                                                              • 2373

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                              The problem is that NO team has ever repeated as NC since the inception if the BCS. Only a handful have made it to two BCS Championship games in a row, and none have won both. Only the great USC teams in 03-04 win back to back AP titles. When you are the champ, everyone guns for you, especially if you are returning the Hirsman winner and all the other skill players. Alabama simply could not withstand the pressure. Blaming it on their QB is about as stupid as it gets.
                                                              agreed
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                                                              • VicVega91
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                                                                • 10-05-09
                                                                • 519

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                                should'a out bid auburn for newton
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                                                                • VicVega91
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 10-05-09
                                                                  • 519

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Better QB and a better Defense
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