What's up (or down) with MB liquidity?

**SBR_John** · 10-18-10, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Chuck Sims

When Matchbook was paying SBR, their rating was A-. And that was with the big credit player stiffing Matchbook.

I am not a small player. Matchbook has always paid me promptly.

So same true of sister book WSEX? They were A+ when they were paying SBR? Or is it just convenient to pick and choose who is being singled out?

And did the extraordinary liquidity, where did it go or was that part of the SBR plan too??

I have no problem with guys playing there but for you old timers that know they are owned by a nearly broke WSEX act totally oblivious of the risk is just strange.

**Sam Odom** · 10-18-10, 12:48 PM

This has nothing to do with SBR_John's belief (i think John is being truthful as to what he 'heard')

If Mickey & Sprios will do B2B with MatchBook that is all I need to know about them

MB is solid

**Odessa** · 10-18-10, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Odessa do you own matchbook????

NO, but I'm double happy that when I win my bet MB pays me commission on top of it.

JJ, name me a book where you have an option of betting 100K?

**bookie** · 10-18-10, 01:24 PM

In MB we trust? I can't believe the shoot-the-messenger mindset some have.

I use MB and am grateful that it exists, but blind trust that MB will always pay given all the credit it extends seems foolish. Thanks SBR John for putting in your three cents.

**bubba** · 10-18-10, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by sbr_john

so same true of sister book wsex? They were a+ when they were paying sbr? Or is it just convenient to pick and choose who is being singled out?

And did the extraordinary liquidity, where did it go or was that part of the sbr plan too??

I have no problem with guys playing there but for you old timers that know they are owned by a nearly broke wsex act totally oblivious of the risk is just strange.

wasnt matchbook sold? There was a thread on this bout 2 weeks ago. Justin confirmed that he heard this from solid sources. So who is right? Sbr john or justin?

**BAUS** · 10-18-10, 01:30 PM

Every book is only as good as their last payout. (Matchbook paid me again this morning quickly to Moneybookers.)

BAUS

**Sam Odom** · 10-18-10, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by bookie

In MB we trust?

No

In CRIS & GREEK I trust

Originally posted by Sam Odom

If Mickey & Sprios will do B2B with MatchBook that is all I need to know about them

**Odessa** · 10-18-10, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

This has nothing to do with SBR_John's belief (i think John is being truthful as to what he 'heard')

If Mickey & Sprios will do B2B with MatchBook that is all I need to know about them

MB is solid

Does it means John heard the truth?

I heard in August about BIG announcement from MB in September about change in commission. And what happened?

I also heard that 9/11 was masterminded by American goverment and there even documentary made on this subject.

**shaunovery** · 10-18-10, 01:34 PM

Maybe you should put up a better ptice

**SBR_John** · 10-18-10, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by bubba

wasnt matchbook sold? There was a thread on this bout 2 weeks ago. Justin confirmed that he heard this from solid sources. So who is right? Sbr john or justin?

Not that I'm aware of. They have been trying to add investors but nothing has materially changed. I doubt you will see a sale because of the factors I mentioned. But if you do it will be a very deep pocketed buyer like a Bookmaker or Sportsbook.com size company. Justin or Matchbook/WSEX or any of the investors are welcome to come on here and correct me.

**Sam Odom** · 10-18-10, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Odessa

Does it means John heard the truth?

Of course not.

We all know a forum will slant the spin in fav of an advertiser and maybe against a non-advertiser. ($$$ speaks)

What I meant was: I dont think John would flat out lie to hurt a Book unlike some past (RIP) forum owners.

**Fishhead** · 10-18-10, 02:00 PM

It is clearly evident for those that play at MB that new management/ownership has taken over the reins recently..............

As mentioned by Odessa, it's a pleasure getting the best line AND getting paid a commission for it...........one of many reasons MB is currently atop the FH USA RANKINGS.

**RonPaul2008** · 10-18-10, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

It is clearly evident for those that play at MB that new management/ownership has taken over the reins recently..............

Fishhead, please elaborate....what makes this evident?

**Monte** · 10-18-10, 09:54 PM

FH just keeps babbling about how good they are, like a broken record.
I respect you dude, but you are starting to get on everyone's nerves with this one...we all know MB is a must-have, you don't have to repeat it 100x same for Chuck Sims...

**durito** · 10-18-10, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

WSEX and MB pulled all advertising everywhere including their spot on SBROdds about 1 to 1.5 years ago. No hard feelings they were both A+ and A books once upon a time. Then they ran into the credit problems and lost their ratings. WSEX has made some progress and except for the flight out of MB causing some liquidity issues MB has done all they can to prove they are solid in the post up area.

Matchbooks credit problems were widely available information 6 months before you downgraded them. Your employees were all aware of this info at the time.

Wsex was so playing for over a year when you downgraded them, granted I believed they'd earned the right to have that benefit of a doubt. The matchbook shit though, don't pretend you didn't know way beforehand.

And yes, according to your employees matchbook has been sold.

**thepig** · 10-18-10, 11:08 PM

Any changes you've noticed since they've been sold? I don't see anything different.

**rake922** · 10-18-10, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by thepig

Any changes you've noticed since they've been sold? I don't see anything different.

seems like wins get graded quicker.... usually

**SPECULATOR 13** · 10-20-10, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Monte

SBR is doing the right thing here.

Would you prefer an A rating, no warnings, and suddenly a crash happens?
Something messy is going on with Wsex/MB, and isn't it obvious that it is connected somehow?
MB is not worthy of an A-rating in SAFETY at the moment. And it doesn't matter at all that they pay right now, things can change,
A-rating means 100% safety, and this is just not the case.

BANG,ON MONTE!!!!

Justin and Johnny good job lads

I am with bookmaker and when i will have more $ i will open a PINNACLES account and when BLAKIE as his exchange going i will go there and less not forget The Greek.
With the above options,one does not need to risk one $ in any place where there is the slightest bit of doubt or unprofessionalism!!

**Odessa** · 10-20-10, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by thepig

Any changes you've noticed since they've been sold? I don't see anything different.

I noticed that offers board is overflowing with offers but their system can show maximum 5 digit numbers. That's why you always see $99,999. That's sheer violation of freedom of information.

**Rapscallion** · 10-20-10, 06:37 PM

Thankfully I can use my brain and realize........every non-exchange (sportsbook) and shill alike hates matchbook for obvious reasons. This site is a 'sportsbook' review.... nuff said.

on a side note.......listing the big four (Greek, Pinny, CRIS, & BJam) with these other also-ran books in the same sentence is a severe disservice to honest information. (#88)

**trixtrix** · 10-20-10, 10:52 PM

"If you are using BTCL to scalp/arb, you are pissing thousands of dollars away"

"hedging is not maximizing EG if your bankroll is sufficiently large."

(Justin7)

**RonPaul2008** · 10-21-10, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by trixtrix

"If you are using BTCL to scalp/arb, you are pissing thousands of dollars away"

"hedging is not maximizing EG if your bankroll is sufficiently large."

(Justin7)

roflmao

**SPECULATOR 13** · 10-21-10, 11:56 AM

listing the big four (Greek, Pinny, CRIS, & BJam) with these other also-ran!!???

(#90)

BOOKMAKER(i.e. CRIS),PINNACLES,THE GREEK(Bjam/same owners) and the future XmarketsExchange.com,are the ones i recommended.

The later hasn't event started yet,they are at the embryonic stage,if they
are whom you are referring to as "also ran",than that is surely" a severe disservice to honest information."

**scott235** · 10-21-10, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Fair enough JJ

However, MB has grown over the past 12 months..........

.......and liquidity is not a problem for 99.6% of the posters here.

...myself included in that 99.6%, for strait bets, exchanges rule except for only the largest players

....we need more of them go blackie!!!!

**bookie** · 10-21-10, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by scott235

...for strait bets, exchanges rule....we need more of them

Has anyone else besides me used the ParlayMakers exchange?

**bubba** · 10-21-10, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by bookie

Has anyone else besides me used the ParlayMakers exchange?

right now 99,000 + on both sides of giants phillies game. 1 cent spread

KC · 10-21-10, 06:07 PM

Tremendous amounts on Phils/Giants very good to see!

**Kaps** · 10-21-10, 06:13 PM

wow thats crazy on mlb....line will probably not move at all

**Odessa** · 10-21-10, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by Kaps

wow thats crazy on mlb....line will probably not move at all

Kaps, you have been around. Have you noticed increase in volume over the last 6 month?

**Fishhead** · 10-21-10, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by KC

Tremendous amounts on Phils/Giants very good to see!

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**ZetaPsi808** · 10-22-10, 12:11 AM

they have paid me instantly for 3 years now. about 2k each time. i am not worried