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  • Doug
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-10-05
    • 6324

    #1
    Question about Rebatewager parlay payoffs ?
    I did a test one here to check the payoffs. I got 278.01 with two different calculators, but $235 at RBW. Why is this ?

    WagerType:PARLAY (6 TEAMS)
    Date: Team:
    Oct 15 MLB [901] NY YANKEES o8-115 [C SABATHIA -L/C WILSON -L]
    Oct 15 NHL [1] COL AVALANCHE o5½+105
    Oct 15 NHL [4] NY RANGERS u5½-105
    Oct 15 NHL [8] PIT PENGUINS u5½+105
    Oct 15 NHL [12] ANA DUCKS u6-125
    Oct 15 NHL [13] VAN CANUCKS o5½+105
    Risking 5 USD To Win 235 USD
  • BigDaddy
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-01-06
    • 8378

    #2
    doug i asked a question and had my account closed

    if i were you i would not ask any questions with a balance.
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    • Regul8er
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-06-07
      • 10666

      #3
      Im getting $278. Rebate Wager definately needs to step in and answer this one for you Doug.
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      • BigDaddy
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-01-06
        • 8378

        #4
        its just another way for blackie to steal from the players.

        he will tell doug not to bitch because doug is not a depositing player and then he will go a rant and put down everyone on this site.
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        • BeeMore
          Restricted User
          • 05-29-10
          • 1004

          #5
          Maybe paying less than true parlay odds is another example of old school booking

          RW sucks as a book.
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          • Doug
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-10-05
            • 6324

            #6
            The question is fair, this is not just the change. I was going to bet it but I decided to check the price first.
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            • BigDaddy
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-01-06
              • 8378

              #7
              Originally posted by Doug
              The question is fair, this is not just the change. I was going to bet it but I decided to check the price first.

              for sure the question is fair.

              change adds up as well
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              • Regul8er
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-06-07
                • 10666

                #8
                Ive never noticed this because I strictly make straight wagers.
                This is an interesting development. Keep us up-to-date here Dougie.
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                • tltaylor89
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 06-19-09
                  • 19610

                  #9
                  RW is getting worse by the second
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                  • forsberg21
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-23-09
                    • 1851

                    #10
                    Well I'm getting $282.67, but either, both $278.01 and $282.67 is far off from $235.

                    Why is anyone still doing any business with this book? The rounding down and now this? You can't give Rebate Wager the benefit of the doubt anymore. This is DELIBERATE.
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                    • Doug
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 6324

                      #11
                      3 teams pays +500, it's +596 or +600 everywhere.

                      WagerType:PARLAY (3 TEAMS)
                      Date: Team:
                      Oct 17 NFL [209] SD CHARGERS o45-110
                      Oct 17 NFL [211] KC CHIEFS o45-110
                      Oct 17 NFL [213] BAL RAVENS o45-110
                      Risking 5 USD To Win 25 USD
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                      • Fishhead
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-11-05
                        • 40179

                        #12
                        What in tarnations????

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                        • Jrod124
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-31-09
                          • 5622

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Doug
                          3 teams pays +500, it's +596 or +600 everywhere.

                          WagerType:PARLAY (3 TEAMS)
                          Date: Team:
                          Oct 17 NFL [209] SD CHARGERS o45-110
                          Oct 17 NFL [211] KC CHIEFS o45-110
                          Oct 17 NFL [213] BAL RAVENS o45-110
                          Risking 5 USD To Win 25 USD
                          WOW that is crazy. I never noticed this before. Maybe rebatewager isn't so great. I wld like to hear Blackie's comments before deciding though
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                          • Doug
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 6324

                            #14
                            4 teams pays 10-1 which is inline with some books, but really should be closer to 12-1.

                            WagerType:PARLAY (4 TEAMS)
                            Date: Team:
                            Oct 17 NFL [209] SD CHARGERS o45-110
                            Oct 17 NFL [211] KC CHIEFS o45-110
                            Oct 17 NFL [213] BAL RAVENS o45-110
                            Oct 17 NFL [215] NO SAINTS o43½-110
                            Risking 5 USD To Win 50 USD
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                            • BigDaddy
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-01-06
                              • 8378

                              #15
                              wow

                              5-1 on 3 teamers

                              no wonder he can give away so much.

                              poster prop was dead on on what he said about RW
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                              • Sam Odom
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-30-05
                                • 58063

                                #16
                                JJ & pokernut have to be apoplectic over these RW revelations lately
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                                • Doug
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 6324

                                  #17
                                  2 pays correctly

                                  WagerType:PARLAY (2 TEAMS)
                                  Date: Team:
                                  Oct 17 NFL [209] SD CHARGERS o45-110
                                  Oct 17 NFL [211] KC CHIEFS o45-110
                                  Risking 5 USD To Win 13 USD
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                                  • Doug
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 6324

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BigDaddy
                                    wow

                                    5-1 on 3 teamers

                                    no wonder he can give away so much.

                                    poster prop was dead on on what he said about RW
                                    How did nobody not catch this before ?

                                    3 team parlays are a common bet. Some places even pay +650
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                                    • geebert74
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-03-09
                                      • 2445

                                      #19
                                      Can we just leave Rebatewager alone here for a little bit... Say what you want to about Blackie, He still contributes here and the guy gives out a boat load of free money...
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                                      • BigDaddy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-01-06
                                        • 8378

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Doug
                                        How did nobody not catch this before ?

                                        3 team parlays are a common bet. Some places even pay +650

                                        i never placed a 3 team parlay with them.


                                        Blackie only books to squares and most squares don't know any better.
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                                        • Sam Odom
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-30-05
                                          • 58063

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by geebert74


                                          Can we just leave Rebatewager alone here for a little bit...




                                          Too late... the blood is in the water

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                                          • Fishhead
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-11-05
                                            • 40179

                                            #22
                                            5-1 on a 3-teamer??

                                            What in tarnations?

                                            Never heard of such.......
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                                            • Doug
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 6324

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by forsberg21
                                              Well I'm getting $282.67, but either, both $278.01 and $282.67 is far off from $235.

                                              Why is anyone still doing any business with this book? The rounding down and now this? You can't give Rebate Wager the benefit of the doubt anymore. This is DELIBERATE.
                                              On the order of 15-16% short. I know books hold more with more teams involved and going over 3 teams often shorts you....like 4 paying 10-1 is accepted. Bookmaker or 5D would pay it at +1196 or whatever the number works out to.

                                              The 6 teamer used no -110 lines. It's a math equation and the answer is $278 not $235.

                                              Somebody try that same 6 teamer at whatever book for $5 and see what it pays, you don't have to confirm it.
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                                              • Doug
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 6324

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                5-1 on a 3-teamer??

                                                What in tarnations?

                                                Never heard of such.......
                                                Delaware or maybe Proline in Canada or parlay cards in Vegas....but you get stale lines.

                                                3 teams online has to pay +600 or +596 using math. Places that pay +600 also pay +260 on two teams. Math shops pay +264 and +596 on 2-3 teams. Either way is fine. That equals out. 10-1 on 4 isn't right, but I accept that , just wouldn't bet it.
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                                                • BigDaddy
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-01-06
                                                  • 8378

                                                  #25
                                                  Oct 15 1:30pm 6 Team Parlay - Pending 5.00 to win 278.01
                                                  1. Baseball - New York Yankees/Texas Rangers - total Under 8 (-105)
                                                  for the entire game held on Oct 15 at 7:05pm [pending]
                                                  C Sabathia -L must start and C Wilson -L must start for action
                                                  2. Baseball - San Francisco Giants/Philadelphia Phillies - total Under 6 (-125)
                                                  for the entire game held on Oct 16 at 6:55pm [pending]
                                                  T Lincecum -R must start and R Halladay -R must start for action
                                                  3. Football - Toronto Argonauts - spread +1 (-115)
                                                  for the entire game held on Oct 15 at 6:35pm [pending]
                                                  4. Football - Philadelphia Eagles - spread -3 (+105)
                                                  for the entire game held on Oct 17 at 12:00pm [pending]
                                                  5. Hockey - Colorado Avalanche/New Jersey Devils - total Over 5½ (+105)
                                                  for the entire game held on Oct 15 at 6:05pm [pending]
                                                  6. Hockey - New York Islanders/Pittsburgh Penguins - total Under 5½ (+105)
                                                  for the entire game held on Oct 15 at 6:05pm [pending]
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                                                  • Lo$t
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 06-03-10
                                                    • 787

                                                    #26
                                                    Desmond Too Too.
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                                                    • Lo$t
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 06-03-10
                                                      • 787

                                                      #27
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                                                      • prop
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-04-07
                                                        • 1073

                                                        #28
                                                        This is old school bookmaking where the bookies always round down.
                                                        In this case the parlay comes up 5.96 times payout. Rebate wager tosses the extra 0.96 out the window (oops I mean in their pockets) (oops I mean part into their pockets the rest at SBR for advertising and contests) because their policy is round down.
                                                        We're not talking 96 cents. We're talking losing 0.96 of your stake on a win because its 0.04 percentage points short.

                                                        The dude saying leave people alone you're a nut man. This book offers odds like some state lottery is worst paying online, the owner is a total prick, I'm sure these $10 free plays keep your broke as in action, but serious how can a book that pays this bad and takes advantage of naive gamblers that much be rated so high. Because oh wow they pay fast? Heck I'd make it like dominoes pizza and do 30 minutes or less on payouts if I had suckers willing to bet with my shady book.
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                                                        • Doug
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 6324

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by prop
                                                          This is old school bookmaking where the bookies always round down.
                                                          In this case the parlay comes up 5.96 times payout. Rebate wager tosses the extra 0.96 out the window (oops I mean in their pockets) (oops I mean part into their pockets the rest at SBR for advertising and contests) because their policy is round down.
                                                          We're not talking 96 cents. We're talking losing 0.96 of your stake on a win because its 0.04 percentage points short.

                                                          The dude saying leave people alone you're a nut man. This book offers odds like some state lottery is worst paying online, the owner is a total prick, I'm sure these $10 free plays keep your broke as in action, but serious how can a book that pays this bad and takes advantage of naive gamblers that much be rated so high. Because oh wow they pay fast? Heck I'd make it like dominoes pizza and do 30 minutes or less on payouts if I had suckers willing to bet with my shady book.
                                                          they don't round down two teams at +260 or +264 to a +200, why would 3 teams pay +500 instead of +600 or +596 ?
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                                                          • sharpcat
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 12-19-09
                                                            • 4516

                                                            #30
                                                            It is amazing what a little bit invested in advertising on SBR and a few posters paid to shill for shit book will do.

                                                            People never learn this was CW from the start JJGold, Fish and several other less known posters have been pushing this book for months and nobody thought it was suspicious

                                                            Blackie is pulling every dirty trick in the book, this has all the signs of a hit and run book written all over it.

                                                            The gig is up get your money out while you can because once everybody stops playing and pulls their funds RW will not be able to pay your money.
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                                                            • sharpcat
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 12-19-09
                                                              • 4516

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Doug
                                                              they don't round down two teams at +260 or +264 to a +200, why would 3 teams pay +500 instead of +600 or +596 ?
                                                              These are terrible/highly unbeatable odds.

                                                              The idea here is to slowly let the odds get worse on plays that sharps do not make to go under the radar, a lot of sharp hit 2 team parlays the more teams in the parlay the less sharp action to spot your god awful ripoff artist payouts.
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                                                              • SoCalFisher
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 01-22-09
                                                                • 769

                                                                #32
                                                                lucy, you have some splaining to dooo.
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                                                                • sharpcat
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 12-19-09
                                                                  • 4516

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Doug
                                                                  3 teams pays +500, it's +596 or +600 everywhere.

                                                                  WagerType:PARLAY (3 TEAMS)
                                                                  Date: Team:
                                                                  Oct 17 NFL [209] SD CHARGERS o45-110
                                                                  Oct 17 NFL [211] KC CHIEFS o45-110
                                                                  Oct 17 NFL [213] BAL RAVENS o45-110
                                                                  Risking 5 USD To Win 25 USD
                                                                  This is very interesting especially since their site clearly states that they pay 6-1
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                                                                  • Lo$t
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 06-03-10
                                                                    • 787

                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • Lo$t
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 06-03-10
                                                                      • 787

                                                                      #35
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