I am debating moving to Vegas - input appreciated please.

[Shonner]

Starting to think Vegas is a much better option. Tons of books and lines to shop. Debating moving there.

I just think it would be much easier to live in Vegas, buy an iPad, get in better shape, and run book to book to snag lines as they move and become favorable. I know that Vegas doesn't have reduced juice like some books, and there aren't any bonuses/promos, but I think the ease of betting and having 10+ books to shop lines from would out weight the benefits of betting online. I could also keep some $ in a few solid shops like Heritage that offer reduced juice.

How many sportsbooks are in the Vegas area? Has to be at least 20-30 to shop lines from, right?

[rm18]

they do have reduced for baseball MLs though Vegas probably especially good for bases

[prop]

There are many great reasons to move to Vegas, sports betting is not one of those reasons.

The books are journeys and hikes away and they mostly have same lines. I lived Vegas for four years while making almost all my bets online.

[Shonner]

they do have reduced for baseball MLs though Vegas probably especially good for bases

Yeah and for football/baskets the books they have often vary significantly in the lines they offer. Some good values out there.

- I would save $ by not having to pay for withdrawals
- Wouldn't have to keep large sums of money in books
- Could invest that $ in something that would earn me something
- No waiting for payment
- Tons of lines to shop at tons of books
- Lower cost of living than where i live now

Would just need to find a job there

[Shonner]

There are many great reasons to move to Vegas, sports betting is not one of those reasons.

The books are journeys and hikes away and they mostly have same lines. I lived Vegas for four years while making almost all my bets online.

I have been periodically checking odds on Vegas Insider and I see a lot of variance between the lines...are you sure about that?

How many sportsbooks in total are in the area?

[chilidog]

There's a guy on here that has a blog, and he did just that. his blog is at sportsbettingforaliving.com. It's a really good read. I read that he said when he considering moving, he had the same plan - to be busy all the time running around to different books, but in the end, he still mainly just bets online like everybody else.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Starting to think Vegas is a much better option. Tons of books and lines to shop. Debating moving there.

I just think it would be much easier to live in Vegas, buy an iPad, get in better shape, and run book to book to snag lines as they move and become favorable. I know that Vegas doesn't have reduced juice like some books, and there aren't any bonuses/promos, but I think the ease of betting and having 10+ books to shop lines from would out weight the benefits of betting online. I could also keep some $ in a few solid shops like Heritage that offer reduced juice.

How many sportsbooks are in the Vegas area? Has to be at least 20-30 to shop lines from, right?

If you are moving there for the access to Sportsbooks then it's o.k.....20-30 is a low number, as there are many local casino's as well that have books. You could just move up and down the strip and hit 20 books. The biggest issue right now is unemployment, as the number is around 14%. Housing costs came out yesterday and dropped again which is a good sign if someone is looking at buying. Just alot of people on rough times, and the scammers are everywhere.

[Shonner]

If you are moving there for the access to Sportsbooks then it's o.k.....20-30 is a low number, as there are many local casino's as well that have books.

It just seems like with that # of books it would be quite easy to find favorable odds

Is there a good site that has a lot of the odds posted (like vegasinsider)?

[MMAchicka]

If you are thinking of working out there and not betting full time it will be hard. The job market out there is awful. If you want to purchase a house it is great. You have to weigh out all the factors. Good luck in your choice.

[JimmysEgo]

You'd end up playing roulette and lose your bankroll. Or you'd get addicted to the legal whores and lose your bankroll.

[Dirty Sanchez]

It just seems like with that # of books it would be quite easy to find favorable odds

Is there a good site that has a lot of the odds posted (like vegasinsider)?

Some of the local casino's have a Leroy's book in them so the line is constant as they call around to all the locations to set the same line. Your favorable odds comes from visiting the bigger places such as Bellagio, Ceasars, Wynn, etc. because you may get a 1/2 point swing, or possibly a point in some cases.

[JimmysEgo]

By the time you go around and find the best line, you go back to that place and the line moved.

[unusialsusp5]

you'll get tired of running around to shop for lines. i think you can do that online. which is where you'll end up betting. so no reason to move, no jobs out there. in and out burger not hiring. maybe you could get job writing house quinella payoffs on results board at the orleans, but then you couldn't shop for lines.

[rm18]

i think I might move too, but Vegas books would be 3rd most important gambling source, online books, live poker, vegas books, online poker in that order.

[Smoke]

Find a good loan shark when u get out there and start out that way, just don't lose

[prop]

I moved from Vegas to Thailand 18 months ago. If you want a great place to live with low cost of living while betting sports this is it. There is only a small handful of sites that restrict me because of location, most are US so I just use my old US address still with them, while all the important ones welcomed me back or welcomed me for first time now (Pinnacle, Betfair, etc.).

I rent a 3 bedroom house for $300 per month, electricity is around $30 a month, internet $45 a month (pay for max speed). I can go to a buffet for about $3 or eat a decent meal for $1 or less from a side shop.

I bet a lot more, but probably a bottom feeder just taking bonuses, middles and arbs could make enough to cover their monthly here.

Vegas sounds good.. I think if you're true reason for moving is sports betting South East Asia all the way. Flights back home to visit will be a bit, but can get set up with a rewards "debit card" use it to post up at books. I deposit $500 at a time via rewards debit card even when my balance doesn't require it just to save up on miles and reduce flight expenses. More or less now I pay for one round trip per year and end up taking one for free, hitting Vegas for a couple weeks in early summer, and then stopping home for Christmas.

Vegas is awesome though. When I have a mountain of cash some day and don't care about betting anymore I'll more than likely go back there.

Now back to topic of Vegas: most my friends while living there were other professional gamblers (poker + sports) and we'd generally meet up around third quarter of the night games and start drinking then, because prior to that we were home putting our bets in online. The only few guys I knew mostly were old timers who didn't have much a clue how to turn on a computer and these guys made most their bets downtown while taking a quick runs over to Hilton for anything someone stopped by talking about. When watching the games with these guys at night I was almost always on a better line than they were.

[PDW]

I would love to live in Vegas. I would probably be dead within a couple of years though.

[Shonner]

Find a good loan shark when u get out there and start out that way, just don't lose

no need smokey

bankroll would be 6 figures

[teaserpleaser]

Prop- what part of the kingdom you in? i lived in Hua Hin for a year teaching i miss it . i miss Tesco Lotus people have no idea how low cost of living and how high quality of life can be. Will probably retire there but that is many moons away.

[itchypickle]

Yeah and for football/baskets the books they have often vary significantly in the lines they offer. Some good values out there.

- I would save $ by not having to pay for withdrawals
- Wouldn't have to keep large sums of money in books
- Could invest that $ in something that would earn me something
- No waiting for payment
- Tons of lines to shop at tons of books
- Lower cost of living than where i live now

Would just need to find a job there

There is a reason they lead the nation in foreclosures...and have a huge unemployment problem compared to other cities.

[Sam Odom]

DO IT!!

Every gambler should try it once in his life

[cobalt king]

i just like the idea of being able to get your money as soon as the game is over and not waiting 48 hours and paying fees but there are so many other forms of gambling that would kill my bankroll as well, my mom lives in california about a half hour from reno so i might visit her and see what its like to bet legally for a while.

[Dirty Sanchez]

DO IT!!

Every gambler should try it once in his life

I would say have a Plan B just in case you Vegas experiment fails. It's very easy to fall in traps and overextend yourself when you get the fever in Vegas. As great as it sounds, a very small percentage of people make it professionally gambling. Most end up in the Red and move on.

[Shonner]

i just like the idea of being able to get your money as soon as the game is over and not waiting 48 hours and paying fees but there are so many other forms of gambling that would kill my bankroll as well, my mom lives in california about a half hour from reno so i might visit her and see what its like to bet legally for a while.

Discipline would be necessary, but I can't see how online gaming can be a better option for a US player.

The fact that your bankroll is never at risk, you can INVEST IT, and you don't have to pay for payouts makes Vegas a much better option in my opinion.

There are a ton of books too so you can shop for lines quite easily.

[Shonner]

I would say have a Plan B just in case you Vegas experiment fails. It's very easy to fall in traps and overextend yourself when you get the fever in Vegas. As great as it sounds, a very small percentage of people make it professionally gambling. Most end up in the Red and move on.

I would still work until I was in a position to stop working.

[Chugs]

yeah if you got the 6 fig bank roll, do it man, why not.

[pavyracer]

You need to buy a scooter in Vegas. So you can go from hotel to hotel shopping for lines every morning. The problem is by the time you go back to the hotel you saw a line you liked it will be gone.

[RealSlimShady]

Going from casino to casino doesnt take as little time as you think. It will take 10-15 minutes just to walk from the sportsbook at Caesars Palace to the one at the Bellagio....and those hotels are just across the street from each other.

[Sam Odom]

You need to buy a scooter in Vegas.

A good bicycle is better but you have to make friends (tip) with the Valets. They will watch your bike.

[pavyracer]

Going from casino to casino doesnt take as little time as you think. It will take 10-15 minutes just to walk from the sportsbook at Caesars Palace to the one at the Bellagio....and those hotels are just across the street from each other.

Yeah Vegas is so spread out it's useless to use this method shopping for lines. I mean it takes 5-10 minutes from the time you enter the hotel entrance to find the book at the back. And that's it if you take a cab and they drop you off at the entrance.

[ABEHONEST]

Here is a much nicer reply than you gave me yesterday!

[bookie]

It just seems like with that # of books it would be quite easy to find favorable odds,

It might seem like it, but listen to what people are telling you---Vegas books coordinate all their moves and there is very rarely any line shopping to be done on any of the major sports. If you've mastered the art of being in two places at exactly the same time you might pick up a half a point here or there, but you won't do any better than you do by having several browser windows open.

The rest of your reasons seem reasonable, but you're hearing from a lot of us that the large number of books don't produce many off lines--so I hope you'll believe it.

[Shonner]

Here is a much nicer reply than you gave me yesterday!

that's cuz you came at Murph lol

[Jerm3462]

Try it for 3 months, come back if it don't work.

[blackbart]

vegas has very few sports books, most are either harrahs, mgm, or leroys. you could monitor them from home and then drive to the closest one if needed, but offshore is almost always bettor.