The -FH- USA SPORTSBOOK RANKINGS for 10-1-10

[Fishhead]

1. MATCHBOOK
2. HERITAGE
3. BETJAM/GREEK
4. 5DIMES
5. BOOKMAKER/DSI
6. BETPHOENIX
7. REBATEWAGER
8. SPORTSINTERACTION
9. LEGENDS
10 BETONLINE



NOTES......We had three minor one spot flipflops in the rankings this week.......BJ/GREEK moves ahead of 5DIMES...........BETPHOENIX moves past REBATEWAGER...........and SIA moves past LEGENDS. Please note, the current #2-#4 spots are very, very close in the rankings and we can expect changes almost on a weekly basis between these three very solid operations.














PREVIOUS TOP TEN FOR 9-23-10

1. MATCHBOOK
2. HERITAGE
3. 5DIMES
4. BETJAM/GREEK
5. BOOKMAKER
6. REBATEWAGER
7. BETPHOENIX
8. LEGENDS
9. SPORTSINTERACTION
10 BetOnline

[Fishhead]

Thinking of possibly expanding the TOP TEN to a TOP FIFTEEN in future weeks, any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, and as always, thanks for any comments you have on this weeks rankings, without the voice of punters nationwide, the rankings would not be nearly as accurrate as they are now, rankings we believe are the best in the business in helping U.S. punters evaluate their decisions on where to play.

[firedawg]

rebate wager takes to long to get lines out.... imo 5 dimes above betjam/greek. good list though.

[Fishhead]

rebate wager takes to long to get lines out.... imo 5 dimes above betjam/greek. good list though.

Thanks for the input.......

[Fishhead]

Looking at the TOP TEN, there is not one that cannot have something negative stated about their operation in regards to serving the U.S. punter.......from #1 all the way through to #10.


MATCHBOOK.........deposit options limited and not in top five or ten on safety scale
HERITAGE..........invite only book
BETJAM/GREEK.....Greek has 20 cent bases
5DIMES......customer service issues with many punters
BOOKMAKER/DSI........payouts can be costly, as well as transfers, 20 cent lines, DSI will cut limits
REBATEWAGER......late with lines and will cut limits
BETPHOENIX.........Slow pay issues compared to top tier books, but a solid pay thus far.
SIA.......will boot at certain win level
LEGENDS.......somewhat vanilla operation
BETONLINE........Horrible software, but looking to improve

[ronald]

Nice list Fishler, though I don't agree with the comment about Matchbook's safety. It's in the top 5 and if not, it's very close.

[Odessa]

MATCHBOOK.........deposit options limited and not in top five or ten on safety scale

1. What deposit option BETJAM/GREEK has that is missing on MATCHBOOK for US players?

2. How you determine that Matchbook not in top five or ten on safety scale? Has there been any payment issues in the past history like at 5Dimes?

[Fishhead]

1. What deposit option BETJAM/GREEK has that is missing on MATCHBOOK for US players?

2. How you determine that Matchbook not in top five or ten on safety scale? Has there been any payment issues in the past history like at 5Dimes?

1. W.U., M.G, (not sure if BJ/GR takes credit cards).........MB takes none of these.

2. There are still many that believe their former and/or current assoication with WSEX could be a problem.........believe they are safe, but the fact of the matter is there are at least 5-10 outlets that should be ranked higher on the safety scale.............HERITAGE, GREEK, and LEGENDS to name just three.

[milwaukee mike]

sia and betphoenix have NO business being on a top 10 list

put bodog on there, good operation with free monthly payouts unlike most of the rest of that list



also i would remove betonline from the list they are STIFFS
still haven't given me my prize from the bash, when i went on chat/called they said there was no such promotion and called me a LIAR
said they would get back to me and nothing

[Fishhead]

sia and betphoenix have NO business being on a top 10 list

put bodog on there, good operation with free monthly payouts unlike most of the rest of that list



also i would remove betonline from the list they are STIFFS
still haven't given me my prize from the bash, when i went on chat/called they said there was no such promotion and called me a LIAR
said they would get back to me and nothing

Thank you for your opinion, it will not go without thought.

[Smoke]

MB shouldn't be number one if they don't take ** and **..

[Fishhead]

MB shouldn't be number one if they don't take ** and **..

Disagree

They are by far the most valuable book in existance for U.S. punters and it's not even close at this point in time.

Will this enable them to keep their stranglehold on the #1 spot, only time will tell.

However, deposit options and minor safety concerns certainly is weighing on that lofty ranking.

[firedawg]

why isnt 5dimes higher? they have more betting options than everyone... is it customer svs issues? because ive never had a problem

[Fishhead]

why isnt 5dimes higher? they have more betting options than everyone... is it customer svs issues? because ive never had a problem

Hundreds of books would love to be ranked at #4 ...............


NO SHAME HERE


As stated, #2-4 are all very close at this time.............hell, a simple post like yours above may be just enough to get them to #3 or higher next week................GREEK, HERITAGE, and 5DIMES are very closely bunched at this time........and all have closed the gap ever so slightly on MATCHY

Every week it's hell in the war room ranking these three.

[Odessa]

1. W.U., M.G, (not sure if BJ/GR takes credit cards).........MB takes none of these.

Deposit at bj/gr with ** or Money Gram and transfer to Matchbook! Easy.

2. There are still many that believe their former and/or current assoication with WSEX could be a problem.........believe they are safe, but the fact of the matter is there are at least 5-10 outlets that should be ranked higher on the safety scale.............HERITAGE, GREEK, and LEGENDS to name just three.

Who cares what people believe? Allah or Hari Krishna. Call MB and they don't even know what WSEX is. No issues in history. In addition, this is an exchange, they make commission, without putting their money at risk.

[Fishhead]

Deposit at bj/gr with ** or Money Gram and transfer to Matchbook! Easy.



Who cares what people believe? Allah or Hari Krishna. Call MB and they don't even know what WSEX is. No issues in history. In addition, this is an exchange, they make commission, without putting their money at risk.

Most punters know this............still, not as easy as dealing directly with Matchbook.

Thanks for your thoughts Kenny

[MartinBlank]

Fish..

If there is an issue of safety with Matchbook----wouldn't that alone drop it below Greek/BetJam?

Which offers the biggest risk to your money------safety issues or 20 cent baseball lines?

I think many would agree----Greek/BetJam is an overall better book that Matchy.

[Fishhead]

Fish..

If there is an issue of safety with Matchbook----wouldn't that alone drop it below Greek/BetJam?

Which offers the biggest risk to your money------safety issues or 20 cent baseball lines?

I think many would agree----Greek/BetJam is an overall better book that Matchy.

No

Matchbook is just powerful at this times in regards to the money they MAKE/SAVE U.S. punters.

As stated, the 2-4 shops on the list have closed the gap on MB in the past 3 months, make no mistake about this.

Thanks for your thoughts...........points taken.

[donkdown]

where is sbg on fishheads list

[Fishhead]

where is sbg on fishheads list

All I can say is if the ratings go to a TOP 15 format, SBG would not make that list either.................

[firedawg]

abc islands top 15?

[Cicima6709]

What about matchbook has them far ahead of the #2-4 spots on your list?

[Fishhead]

What about matchbook has them far ahead of the #2-4 spots on your list?

Read this entire thread and learn that answer.


ABC top 15, probably not.


Stay tuned, leaning towards releasing a TOP FIFTEEN next week..............still under discussion in the boardroom.

[tblues2005]

Fishhead you didn't put Bodog or DSI in there. Wow I thought you would put them ahead of some of these others like bet phoenix.

[djefferis]

Good list...top 15 should include easystreet sports and jusbet. ESS should be top 10 imho

Wagerchief solid too, but a phoenix book, so already covered.

[Fishhead]

Fishhead you didn't put Bodog or DSI in there. Wow I thought you would put them ahead of some of these others like bet phoenix.

DSI is ranked in TOP TEN


BODOG would undoubtedly make it into the TOP 15, not TOP 10 calibur at this time.


THANKS BLUE

[RichardGeorge]

cant argue this list at all...

[BurtRapp]

Matchbook isn't even in my top 25.
Any book that doesn't take ** or ** is second class. That is the most efficient way to deposit.
Heritage
BetJam
5Dimes
legends

Only Places I put money right now.

[Fishhead]

Matchbook isn't even in my top 25.
Any book that doesn't take ** or ** is second class. That is the most efficient way to deposit.
Heritage
BetJam
5Dimes
legends

Only Places I put money right now.

........THIS, and you state the SBR CASINO has you barrelled in.


SHARP?............NEGATIVE

[Fishhead]

Matchbook isn't even in my top 25.
Any book that doesn't take ** or ** is second class. That is the most efficient way to deposit.
Heritage
BetJam
5Dimes
legends

Only Places I put money right now.

BURT

You're with 5DIMES and BETJAM.............getting money into MB is easy, they both do transfers with MB.

You really need to reevaluate your situation here Mr. Rapp.........any knowledgeable punter on this board reading your post will tell you this.

GOOD DAY

[BurtRapp]

Fish I disagree. Any player will tell you that 5 of your 10 books are garbage. You have bookmaker on your list!!!
LOL
Pushes lose on their freeplays. They also take 3 days for **/** payouts.

[Fishhead]

Fish I disagree. Any player will tell you that 5 of your 10 books are garbage. You have bookmaker on your list!!!
LOL
Pushes lose on their freeplays. They also take 3 days for **/** payouts.

Obviously you have not taken the time to read this thread, as your statement above as already been proven wrong more than once...............

Mr. Rapp, ease off the gas pedal partner, many here can help you succeed at gambling if you are wise enough to have open ears.

[BurtRapp]

address bookmaker then

[wrongturn]

Nice list, Fish. Did you rank them by the number of bets you made? Will you put Brobury in top 15?

[KC]

Good list as usual, agree with bumping Betjam/Greek over 5d