How good is this guy? Can he change speeds? Nonetheless
Illusion
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08-09-05
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How far do you think the ball would fly if someone like Albert Pujols turned on one of those 105 mph fastballs.
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Extra Innings
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02-26-10
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#3
Originally posted by Illusion
How far do you think the ball would fly if someone like Albert Pujols turned on one of those 105 mph fastballs.
I am doing some research now. He is young and he is getting hit....now if he could throw a solid change, slider and curve (in the eighties).... accurately? That would be something else.
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dolphan34
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04-09-10
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#4
Yea I just read about this on MSN. That is really impressive. Hope he develops his other pitches and makes a name for himself.
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bonduforlife
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08-21-10
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#5
if the kid doesnt add some more pitches or atleast improve his off speed stuff, he will get lit up in the postseason aginst good hitting players. (VOTTO) because a fastball can only do so much for one pitcher
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sweethook
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11-21-07
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#6
he as that to work with so its a good start , i say he will do good in long run
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milwaukee mike
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08-22-07
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#7
all speculation at this point
hard to throw 105 mph and not blow your arm out early
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madmaxx
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03-14-07
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#8
I was at the game, when he was warming up they kept having to call time cause the bullpen catcher couldn't catch his balls and they kept going into right field....he sure uses a LOT of tobacco though
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madmaxx
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03-14-07
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#9
Also the day after that he gave up the game winning hit and only threw 100, after only throwing 25 pitches the night before, so I dont think his arm is close to ready
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Regul8er
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11-06-07
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#10
Only threw 100 after throwing 25 pitches the night before???? hahaha. Really??
How many guys can even touch 100? 1 maybe 2?? This guy may be the difference maker in the playoffs.
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thirtytwo
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01-07-10
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#11
Another Tommy John surgery waiting to happen
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fsugolf
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07-17-09
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#12
I know I wouldn't want to be his elbow in the morning after he throws, or when he's 45 for that matter.
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madmaxx
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03-14-07
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#13
Originally posted by Regul8er
Only threw 100 after throwing 25 pitches the night before???? hahaha. Really??
How many guys can even touch 100? 1 maybe 2?? This guy may be the difference maker in the playoffs.
His 102 was ripped and the bat barely touched it.
The game winner was on a 100
Throwing that hard is great but if someone hits it, its gonna fly and no one will make a play on it.
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Extra Innings
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02-26-10
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#14
Thanks for the insight madmaxx! As far as injuries and whatnot....it just appears that he throws the heat effortlessly.
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madmaxx
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03-14-07
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#15
Originally posted by Extra Innings
Thanks for the insight madmaxx! As far as injuries and whatnot....it just appears that he throws the heat effortlessly.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, if you are thats fine. No one can throw 105 MPH and ever hit over 40 pitches in a game.
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madmaxx
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03-14-07
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#16
Plus he has no curve so when people see film of him he's done....Latos got sent to AAA and LT Profits said Latos should be the Cy Young winner.....and we all know how smart LT Profits is!
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Regul8er
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11-06-07
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#17
Originally posted by madmaxx
His 102 was ripped and the bat barely touched it.
The game winner was on a 100
Throwing that hard is great but if someone hits it, its gonna fly and no one will make a play on it.
It's not like this guy is gettin stroked all over the field man. In 10.1 innings, he's given up 8 hits (0 HR's), 3 earned runs and 5 walks along with 14 strikeouts.
2.61 ERA and 1.26 WHIP whether you throw 80MPH or 105MPH is pretty darn good for your first few weeks in the bigs. It's just that 105 makes the batter not want to dig into the box quite as deep. I don't think Adrian Gonzalez or Aubrey Huff will be looking forward to facing this guy in the 7th, 8th or 9th every night in a playoff series.
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Regul8er
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11-06-07
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#18
Originally posted by madmaxx
Plus he has no curve so when people see film of him he's done....Latos got sent to AAA and LT Profits said Latos should be the Cy Young winner.....and we all know how smart LT Profits is!
He may not have been sharp in San Diego madmax.....but Chapman's slider is absolutely devastating. Youtube and check out how bad he's made many MLB batters look already.
I do agree he needs another pitch or two, not arguing there.
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Extra Innings
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02-26-10
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#19
Originally posted by madmaxx
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, if you are thats fine. No one can throw 105 MPH and ever hit over 40 pitches in a game.
Not being sarcastic... appreciate your first hand experience.
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Extra Innings
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02-26-10
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#20
Originally posted by madmaxx
Plus he has no curve so when people see film of him he's done....Latos got sent to AAA and LT Profits said Latos should be the Cy Young winner.....and we all know how smart LT Profits is!
Without a doubt...after seeing a couple of pitches and adjusting timing....he will be hit.
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cadillac pete
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#21
Good major league hitters will make the adjustments needed. And don't forget the pressure that comes along w/post season play.
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goallinebob
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05-11-10
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#22
hey extra innings are you the same guy that posted in covers last year with greg foss,,,
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ngates815
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12-01-09
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#23
The guy doesn't only have a Fastball....He has a NASTY slider. that goes about high 80's.
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miyakuza
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05-03-10
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#24
Originally posted by bonduforlife
if the kid doesnt add some more pitches or atleast improve his off speed stuff, he will get lit up in the postseason aginst good hitting players. (VOTTO) because a fastball can only do so much for one pitcher
Why are you using Votto as an example? He's on the same team moron.
He will not get lit up in the postseason for a 105 mph fastball. You think guys are used to this stuff? Hell no.
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dmiles1021
SBR MVP
09-10-07
1412
#25
notice how he cant get his 105 MPH over the plate for a strike consistently? He can get his lower 100 mph pitches over the plate but dont expect to see too many 104-105 MPH fastballs right down the pipe.
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pavyracer
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04-12-07
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#26
If it was me I would bunt every pitch of his. In fact a bunt hitting a 105 mph fastball may turn into a double easily.
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madmaxx
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03-14-07
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#27
Originally posted by Regul8er
He may not have been sharp in San Diego madmax.....but Chapman's slider is absolutely devastating. Youtube and check out how bad he's made many MLB batters look already.
I do agree he needs another pitch or two, not arguing there.
He has control problems and there is no way someone can throw 100mph consistently. People think he can start......his arm would fall off. If he becomes a closer, BFD, how many saves do closers blow?
After the 105mph pitches he just becomes another guy with gas.
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brxbmbers42
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07-26-10
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#28
105 not important. major leaguers turn and burn on 105.
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Regul8er
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11-06-07
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#29
The Reds dont want his 104-105 MPH fastballs right down the pipe! They want him mixing those in with much less control to make the batter feel uneasy. When I played semi-pro and college, nothing worse then facing a flame thrower, who gased up and had trouble controlling it.
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Regul8er
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11-06-07
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#30
brxbmbers42....what are you talking about??? My question is what current major leaguers have even seen 105MPH???? I would have to go ahead and say ZERO. Randy Johnson never hit 105, Roger Clemens never hit 105, Billy Wagner never hit 105.........
He throws stuff that guys have never seen before and you won't pick it up overnight.
Why are we seeming to have such a difficult time understand this??
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Regul8er
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11-06-07
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#31
And madmaxx.....I hate having to keep getting after you, but again I feel your wrong.
I don't like your statement about him having control issues. Base on balls isn't the stat baseball people look at, its strikeout to walk ratio.
Let's take a look at his 95.2 innings at AAA this year. 52 walks, 125 strikeouts. Sure the Reds organization would like the walks down a tad, but were still talking about a 2.4 K:BB ratio. When you can strikeout 11.8 guys per 9 innings, you can wiggle around your walks much easier then a guy throwing to contact.
I know the sample size is very small in the MLB thus far, but he still owns a 2.8 K:BB ratio and the exact same strikeouts per 9 innings.
By the way, Randy Johnson threw 100MPH for better then a decade, and his arm never fell off. He will certainly be given an opportunity to start next year. If he consistently throws between say 97-100, and mixes in a few at 105, it basically has the same effect as owning another pitch.
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brxbmbers42
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#32
Originally posted by Regul8er
brxbmbers42....what are you talking about??? My question is what current major leaguers have even seen 105MPH???? I would have to go ahead and say ZERO. Randy Johnson never hit 105, Roger Clemens never hit 105, Billy Wagner never hit 105.........
He throws stuff that guys have never seen before and you won't pick it up overnight.
Why are we seeming to have such a difficult time understand this??
regul8r are u his agent or boyfriend. who gives a fukk if he throws 105 once every ten pitches. gary sheffield if he was still in the league would laugh at 105 and then fukkin lace it. guys get hit throwing 100. you dont think they can hit a 105 pitch. its doing them a favor. the 105 supplies the power. so relax pal.
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Regul8er
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11-06-07
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#33
brxbmbers42...your post said major leaguers turn and burn on 105. My response was major leaguers have never seen that speed before, its unprecedented for this era. Unless you can tell me which current big leaguer has ripped 105, there is no argument to your statement.