Solution to allowing non-pros to play SBR Poker

[rdo37]

Create an FPP program to where SBR Pros can cash them in for more SBRpoints. You guys are taking rake, but where is it going?

Let us cash in these FPP's for 30% rakeback or at least create a BAD BEAT JACKPOT where all the rake goes into.

SBR-Pros will be the only ones that get the perks of using FPP's, or will be the only ones eligible in a Bad Beat Jackpot. Let the non-pros play without perks, we need more players!

And while I have your attention... I don't mind the limits where they're at because I have "enough" points to play the big tables. But people trying to start bankrolls will need smaller tables.

We need tables with at least .5/1 Limits and while we're at it you have to move the min buy-in to at least 20BB's to prevent the numerous shortstackers.

I say we have two .5/1 tables, two 1/2 tables and one 3/6 table next time we have open play.


SBR Pros, what do you think?

[ejfel01]

... move the min buy-in to at least 20BB's ...

SBR Pros are shortstacking? Some call shorties rats, not without a reason. All they know is hit and run

[rdo37]

SBR Pros are shortstacking? Some call shorties rats, not without a reason. All they know is hit and run

I think most are doing it because they don't have enough points to play at those levels, so I don't blame them, I blame the system. I'd be doing the same thing if I were in their shoes. And most haven't been hit & running, some have built some nice bankrolls starting with 30-50 points!

[rdo37]

Bump it, Let us Pros do something with these FPP's!

[jjgold]

We are going to need non pros playing poker if they want any type of volume

[RudyRuetigger]

2 things are a necessity:

minimum buyin raised to 20BBs

and

when it comes up to let you do action before your time to bet.. you can click call/check/fold/raise etc.. but once you click on one you can not UNCLICK it. you have to either let it stand or click something else. i have misclicked or clicked over numerous times and have not been able to "cancel" this action

Honorable Mention:
Have a time bank.. not for every hand but atleast like fulltilt where itll run out for good if you use it all up. sometimes you have important decisions and need an extra moment to think

Everything else like hh replayer, show mucked cards, etc etc are just add ons, but i think the first 3 require the most attention


Oh, and how about letting me buy some points somehow!

[Kaabee]

hand history is an absolute must to be able to see what cards your opponent had if they muck at showdown

[RudyRuetigger]

hand history is an absolute must to be able to see what cards your opponent had if they muck at showdown

you can get your hand histories saved to your computer

[ryanspeer2001]

I think the pros and non-pros should have equal table game right to play but some kind of kick back to pros would be cool. Like take non-pro rake and offer it as a high hand during the 2-3 hour open play.

[rdo37]

I think the pros and non-pros should have equal table game right to play but some kind of kick back to pros would be cool. Like take non-pro rake and offer it as a high hand during the 2-3 hour open play.

Yeah a high hand point-pool would be cool, those are always fun in home games

[WeinketoWarrick]

yeah, should come up with something for the FPP's. what's the point of tracking them if we don't get anything for them?

[jnickell100]

I agree with everything said in here. Well done.
1. Smaller NL tables...1/2 Has to come back
2. Time bank, maybe have 3 times you can activate it per table.
3. See opponents hands when mucked.

[stikymess]

We are going to need non pros playing poker if they want any type of volume

I believe this to be true also.

[JACK MATZ]

I agree with everything said, and then some

LIMITS MUST BE SMALLER... Unless most players have over 10k in points. Just to sit down in a $1-$2 game you should have at the least 20 times your full buy in of $200 ( always sit with the max buy in )... $200 X 20 = 4K points. In a $3-$6 game you should have 12k Ect.....

NON PROS HAVE TO PLAY... How many pros are there?? different time zones, different bankrolls, Jobs, Ect...Ect.. You get the idea.

SIT & GOS... 1 to 3 tables, Heads up.

TABLE TOOLS... Instant hand histories, Folded cards, Displayed pot amounts, Time bank, Expandable window, Ect..

Love the Poker! I know its just starting but hopefully these things are on the list.
Guess i will have to wait til i have about 5K in points to start playing.

GL at the tables!!

[Killer_Demo]

im liking what im hearing...lets get the volume UP

[Patrick McIrish]

We are going to need non pros playing poker if they want any type of volume.....

Yep, this might be a mistake by eliminating roughly 50% of your posters as potential players before you even get started. If you're not careful the pro's that enjoy the feature will get burned out because there isn't enough volume, since the nonpros are not invited that means nobody is going to be playing. I agree with the overall strategy of marketing the site to reward the people who post up at your books but what does poker have to do with it? I think you can outsmart yourselves if you aren't careful, you want as many people as you can get to be playing SBR poker. You only have one shot at the launch, to kick this off shorthanded because you're trying to browbeat folks into depositing might turn out to be something that backfires. Just an opinion, I could be wrong, I do know however from running a poker game for a lot of years one thing they will always quit you over is not having enough players. You don't just want the games full, you want fillers as well. I am hearing about "hit and run" guys, that really stands out when the games are short players to begin with. I wouldn't have eliminated anyone from this program when it launched, I would have got down on hands and knees to beg them to play. Anyone, I mean anyone with a pulse that would have helped kick this thing off on the right foot. Since nonpros are broke-dick squares with no money they probably are your biggest market in the play for points poker room, LOL.

[DaProfessor23]

very nice thread i agree with most of what was said . We need smaller NL tables and the min buy in needs to be raised to 20bb, to me thats one of the main problems aswell as non-pros being able to play . doing both of them would increase the traffic tremendously

[egloff]

They will add other things soon, I'm sure. The poker room just started, be patient. Well, it's never bad to give some inputs for future changes and I like most of them so far here.

[SBR Lou]

2 things are a necessity:

minimum buyin raised to 20BBs

We go with 10 BBs & already see many SBR PRO's complain that they don't have enough points to play. Raising it to 20 BBs wouldn't work all that well. The way it's structured now allows a PRO to buy into a 1/2 game with his 12 points per day.

when it comes up to let you do action before your time to bet.. you can click call/check/fold/raise etc.. but once you click on one you can not UNCLICK it. you have to either let it stand or click something else. i have misclicked or clicked over numerous times and have not been able to "cancel" this action

We'll test this out, thanks.

Honorable Mention:
Have a time bank.. not for every hand but atleast like fulltilt where itll run out for good if you use it all up. sometimes you have important decisions and need an extra moment to think

Everything else like hh replayer, show mucked cards, etc etc are just add ons, but i think the first 3 require the most attention

Oh, and how about letting me buy some points somehow!

SBR Points aren't for sale, the others would make good add-on's. We'll see how many can be rolled out in later releases.