See lot's of folks talking about "too many plays", "you can't win with that many plays", etc. But, really is it bad? My thought is you play where you feel the edge is and if it turns out to be 30 plays then best of luck. I think it also will reduce variance.
Is it bad to be a volume player?
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GiveMeaBJSBR Hall of Famer
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#1Is it bad to be a volume player?Tags: None -
rm18SBR Posting Legend
- 09-20-05
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#2of course if every play is a +EV play, but the % of gamblers that can identify a few +EV plays is much higher than the ones who can find 30+ a dayComment -
Mr KLCBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-19-07
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#3It seems like I do better when I do 2-3 plays in a day than the days I have 5+.Comment -
Patrick McIrishSBR MVP
- 09-15-05
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#5Nothing bad about it, volume is your friend when betting sports.Comment -
koby25SBR MVP
- 10-14-08
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#6Everybody is diffrent. I've had better sucess with one to two plays a dayComment -
thezbarSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-29-06
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#7Find a style that works for you. I have no shot betting many games. I've learned this from the past. Betting the games I really like gives me the best chance for making some money. Betting high volume doesn't work for me.Comment -
LarryFSBR Wise Guy
- 12-11-09
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#8In my opinion, the fewer games wagered per week, the better the results. I am usually on 3-5 per week.Comment -
whatsgood5Restricted User
- 10-13-09
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#9I would say yes.Comment -
Patrick McIrishSBR MVP
- 09-15-05
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#10A lot of times "the less I play the better I do" actually equates to "the less I play the slower I lose". If you have an edge volume is your friend, if you're a -EV player the more volume you do the quicker you lose the roll.Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
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#11If all of your plays are +EV, the more the merrier.Comment -
statnerdsSBR MVP
- 09-23-09
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#12go to Iceman's SBR blog and find his thread about the most important thing he learned being a professional bettor
I search out people more successful than myself and try to use them as mentors, informally. if it is good enough for someone that seeks to do it for a living, than it can work for me, as long as my +EV identification skills are on point.
I've really increased my volume lately, with a slight drop in winning percentage, but still above B/E.
grinding out what I hope is a positive ROIComment -
Emily_HainesSBR Posting Legend
- 04-14-09
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#13never worked worth a shit for meComment -
Doc JSSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-15-06
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#14LT is spot on. The more +EV plays you make the better you will be in the long.
The problem is finding +EV plays isn't easy. You are more likely to find 3-5 +EV plays a weekend than you are 30+ +EV plays a weekend...
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magynuckSBR Wise Guy
- 09-17-09
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#15if u know u have an edge yes
most people are losing bettor so of course not
if i let u pick heads or tails on a fair coin and paid +1.05 for every win how many times would u like to play?Comment -
Doc JSSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-15-06
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#16LT is spot on. The more +EV plays you make the better you will be in the long run.
The problem is finding +EV plays isn't easy. You are more likely to find 3-5 +EV plays a weekend than you are 30+ +EV plays a weekend...
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LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
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#17Not true with college sports. It's not unusual for me to play 25-30 CFB or 35-40 CBB games on a Saturday. Keep in mind that includes games with much smaller edges than the games I post.Comment -
Doc JSSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-15-06
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#18
1. the difference is you are a professional. The overwhelming majority here are not. How many hours a week do you spend finding those 30+ plays?
2. How small can your edge be before you feel comfortable betting it may be considerably smaller than someone elses comfort zone.
Overall, the average SBR recreational bettor is probably better off with 5 bets a weekend than 30...
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LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
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#19Right, I guess all my answers assume people can recognize +EV. WHOOPS.Comment -
notiesSBR Sharp
- 05-30-10
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#20one mistake new volume gamblers make is running out of money
Have you ever seen a +even volume player post their plays to prove
that it works ?
nicky santoro best advice long ago was the key to gambling is
not run out of money and empty your bankroll.Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
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#21did well on volume in baseball but getting killed in football.Comment -
Nicky SantoroSBR Posting Legend
- 04-08-08
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#22
that's the problem with gamblers.. true that the more games you bet, the more you clear at the end.. assuming all are +ev bets.. however, i have seen tons go broke even by doing this. they have a 10k bankroll and bet 2k a game.. they have a 50k bankroll and bet 5k a game. this is wrong. gambling will bite you in the ass at the end if you get greedy.
bet within your means. if your bankroll is only 1k, bet 10-20 a game, or 50$ if you don't want to wait.. and build it from there.. if your bankroll is 100k, bet 500-1500 a game.. you MUST stay in the game because without money, i don't care how many +ev bets you find, it'll do you no good.
People want the fast buck, it's called greed. bet within your means. this is more important than just betting all the +ev you can bet..
there's no written rule that you will win no matter what if you just play +ev bets. it's a very very long term investment. not 24 games.. you can easily go 4-21 in your first 25 games and now what?? you are broke..
DO NOT RUN OUT MONEY. YOU MUST STAY IN THE GAMEComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#23Let's just say bookies love guys that bet a lot of games weekly.Comment -
katstaleSBR MVP
- 02-07-07
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#24LT is essentially correct. You should be using parameters you have devised and you bet however many games fall into that formula--thus more would be better. If you are betting hunches, then less is better.
hardest part for any gambler is to bet his formula against his hunch or favorite team. I do it, but it still hurts!! lolComment -
notiesSBR Sharp
- 05-30-10
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#25nicky thanks for all suggestions on helping us show a profit wagering.
Small players can find 2 or 3 +100 and up baseball or soccer totals
each day , thats over 1000 wagers per year and show a small profit.
ADD some cash bonuses to that and we have a small part time income.
Thats all most players really expect, its the transition from a small
part time job to a full time job thats the biggest problem . do
you have any suggestions ?
notiesComment -
Nicky SantoroSBR Posting Legend
- 04-08-08
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#26nicky thanks for all suggestions on helping us show a profit wagering.
Small players can find 2 or 3 +100 and up baseball or soccer totals
each day , thats over 1000 wagers per year and show a small profit.
ADD some cash bonuses to that and we have a small part time income.
Thats all most players really expect, its the transition from a small
part time job to a full time job thats the biggest problem . do
you have any suggestions ?
noties
i have heard of people doing this..not me, but others were... things have changed over the years... you can still do this, but nowhere near what it used to be. now most books have a 500$ bonus cap, if you're lucky. and no more big bonuses.
oh have the times changed offshore.Comment -
gaflSBR Wise Guy
- 08-07-06
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#27I find that the more disciplined I am, the better I do. If that means 0 bets one day and 4 the next, so be it. When I bet games that don't quite fit my parameters, I have problems.Comment -
eyeballSBR Wise Guy
- 08-14-07
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#28Does not the juice eat your lunch even if you have +ev bets? Betting 20 games on saturday all +ev to m at -110 would kill youComment -
pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#29You have to factor in the rebates or the bonuses. If you are trying to rollover a freeplay it's better to play many games. The juice lost will be earned in making the freeplay rollover and convert it to real cash.Comment -
fedtpelsSBR Sharp
- 01-08-10
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#30I do the same thing playing a lot of smaller plays every weekend to rollover my bonus. It's been working out fine so far.Comment -
GELATINOUS CUBESBR MVP
- 08-09-09
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#31I-like-to-attack-with-lots-of-bombs-and-missiles-as-well-as-with-infantry-calvary-and-lots-of-little-mines-and-booby-traps.
Nothing-wrong-with-dropping-a-few-ten-dollar-hollers-with-your-1000-dollar-plays.
especially-on-dogs.blog '09-'10: 37-16: +$31,900
mlb 2010; 16-12: +$4,540
gellyhoops 2010: 10-6 +$3,150
overall: 63-34 +$40,290Comment
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