How to stop intentional wrecking in NASCAR

[pavyracer]

As you know there was an another intentional wreck yesterday in NASCAR. Bush wrecked Keselowski.

Well everyone is bitching about it but nothing is done. There is a clear solution to the problem. Make the cars more expensive. Instead of spending 50 grand per car make them cost 500 grand to build so drivers will think twice before wrecking them on purpose. And if you have to wreck someone's car on purpose you should be liable to pay for the damages of the 500 grand car.

[mmike032]

sponsors pay dont they, drivers dont give a shit
and no one would watch w/out the shady tactics

you are talkinga bout the guy getting pushed into the wall riding on 2 wheels?

[pavyracer]

Yeah mike but you don't see this crap in F1 where the cars cost 15 million each to build.

I hate to see NASCAR turn into WWE where the drama is more important than the race. What happened to clean old racing?

[mmike032]

Yeah mike but you don't see this crap in F1 where the cars cost 15 million each to build.

I hate to see NASCAR turn into WWE where the drama is more important than the race. What happened to clean old racing?

it always has been IMO, dating back to the beloved #3.
karma caught up with him though
personally I havent watched much of it since he got killed


and I think the powers that be would rather have the drama then a clean race

[avssakic]

I think it adds excitement. If the win is on the line, let them go at each other. Brad k has been involved in just about every one of these intentional wrecks, he will wreck someone then whine when he gets dumped. Guy needs to man up already

[KC]

Can't believe there was no retaliation last night.

[poochiecollins]

What's wrong with Nascar being like bumper cars or Mario Kart?

[sundin4prez]

nascar is loving this drama.... nascar is a dieing sport and if a little drama can help boost things, all the better for them....

[ehp6737]

As you know there was an another intentional wreck yesterday in NASCAR. Bush wrecked Keselowski.

Well everyone is bitching about it but nothing is done. There is a clear solution to the problem. Make the cars more expensive. Instead of spending 50 grand per car make them cost 500 grand to build so drivers will think twice before wrecking them on purpose. And if you have to wreck someone's car on purpose you should be liable to pay for the damages of the 500 grand car.

Wowwwww...who is Bush? do you mean Busch? 1st of all, how do you just make something cost 10x more? Perhaps make them throw a bag of cash in the trunk before each race? I don't understand how you plan on accomplishing this. 2nd, where do you get that a Sprint Cup car only costs $50,000? Not even including what they pay out for testing and research, your number is grossly understated. They spend about $20,000 JUST on tires each race. The engine alone cost close to $50,000. Total cost of a car is roughly $250,000-300,000 already. And that's just the straight cost of parts, again no other costs such as research, testing, transportation costs to/from races. I agree something needs to be done and it's simple.....just like every other sport you suspend the driver's for that type of behavior. NASCAR doesn't do that, they fine them and put them on "probation" which is a total joke. Just make them sit out races and they don't make any money the next couple races which also in turn possibly makes them lose endorsement deals also cause of their bad behavior. It's really that simple, hit the driver's in their own wallet, but for some reason NASCAR just won't suspend drivers.

[hawk 5]

Never been clean old racing in nascar. never will be.

[Ace_of_Spades]

The wreckage is apart of the game, why take that away?

[obamaismyuncle]

Nascar has gotten as gay as a bag of dicks..

[milwaukee mike]

gotta agree with ehp here
if it's clear someone intentionally tries to hurt another driver, give him a big fine/suspension

no way to just "make cars more expensive", perhaps if we don't like people eating at taco bell we should pass a law that says tacos are $50 each too, that would really be a free country

[pavyracer]

Don't get me wrong. I love wreckage. What I don't like is intentional wrecking. When you actually use the car to cause a wreck. I like the old time races when they used to throw banana peels outside the window to cause a wreck to force a pit stop.

[Optional]

The engine alone cost close to $50,000.

I think they might be a lot more than that. I've read that an engine lease deal costs between $100,000 and $150,000 per race.

[pavyracer]

I remember a few years back they were talking about some of the qualifiers and they were building the stock cars in their own garages behind the house. So you can literally build one with $50,000 and take it to the track and try to qualify if you are lucky. I'm talking about the guys who don't have corporate sponsors and don't belong to racing teams.

[autotide]

stuff like this is why half the people even watch

[poochiecollins]

I like the old time races when they used to throw banana peels outside the window to cause a wreck to force a pit stop.

What about turtle shells and booby-trapped question boxes?

[ehp6737]

I think they might be a lot more than that. I've read that an engine lease deal costs between $100,000 and $150,000 per race.

Optional, that can be true, but the "lease agreement" includes a lot of other things such as the development, research, engineering, testing, etc. Those overheads factor for more cost than the engine itself in a "lease" or developmental agreement. My number of approx $50,000 is just the crude price for materials and labor (assuming you build your engines in house). Like anything else it's always cheaper to do it yourself.

[ehp6737]

I remember a few years back they were talking about some of the qualifiers and they were building the stock cars in their own garages behind the house. So you can literally build one with $50,000 and take it to the track and try to qualify if you are lucky. I'm talking about the guys who don't have corporate sponsors and don't belong to racing teams.

You started this thread because you want to punish Busch and Kesowloski...2 well established and well funded drivers. But now you want to punish cousin Otto building cars in his garage in West Bum-a-Fuk, U.S.A.???? You make no sense my friend

[rickie65]

What about turtle shells and booby-trapped question boxes?

LOL. my sons have been playing that all summer.