Can you get a mortgage as a pro sports bettor?

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  • bipolar
    SBR Sharp
    • 04-25-10
    • 252

    #1
    Can you get a mortgage as a pro sports bettor?
    Hello,
    I am wondering if its possible to get a mortgage from a bank on a house if your a professional sports bettor? Ie. You are not paying any tax on your income.

    Thank you for any replies
  • rm18
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-20-05
    • 22291

    #2
    possible but probably harder today, know a cocaine dealer that had a mortgage
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    • playersonly69
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-04-08
      • 12827

      #3
      You are at first making a real bad assumption. You are assuming that professional gamblers do not pay taxes!
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      • playersonly69
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-04-08
        • 12827

        #4
        Professional Sports Bettors do pay taxes. Are they showing all wins?? Maybe not.
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        • bipolar
          SBR Sharp
          • 04-25-10
          • 252

          #5
          I live in Canada... I don't believe we pay taxes on any gambling winnings here...
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          • playersonly69
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-04-08
            • 12827

            #6
            I play poker and bet on sports for a living and I can guarantee you that I pay taxes. And I also have a mortgage. BUt I was able to show the 3 previous years taxes
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            • pokernut9999
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-25-07
              • 12757

              #7
              Taxes are not what you have to show , but proof of income.
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              • mikejamm
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-24-09
                • 11052

                #8
                Yeah sure! The banks love piss'in money away! Haven't you been watch'in tv lately? They're giving money away by the the fist fulls! Oh wait, sorry, that was during the Bush administration. Seriously though, good luck proving your source of income, banks are scared to loan shit right now, with the economy being so fuk'ed up, so unless you've got 100% equity in something, a huge down payment, and a boat load of cash, expect to get laughed out of the loan office.
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                • THE PROFIT
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-27-09
                  • 17701

                  #9
                  You cant get a loan if you can prove you make $xx month, have for the past xx years, and have worked for the same company for xx years, and are current on your taxes.

                  So how the fuk are you planning on getting a loan telling them you are a gambler???
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                  • THE PROFIT
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-27-09
                    • 17701

                    #10
                    Banks lend money by risk. Your occupation is one big RISK
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                    • michalis
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-02-10
                      • 1439

                      #11
                      who's a professional gambler?
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                      • mikejamm
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-24-09
                        • 11052

                        #12
                        Originally posted by michalis
                        who's a professional gambler?
                        We all are!
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                        • Johnny 55
                          Restricted User
                          • 05-16-09
                          • 1079

                          #13
                          Just buy the house straight up with your professional winnings.
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                          • bipolar
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 04-25-10
                            • 252

                            #14
                            Thanks for the serious replies,

                            I am still in my 20s and have been playing as a poker pro for a year or so now and am moving into sports betting.... I do not have a mortgage or much of a credit history for that matter...
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                            • 20Four7
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 04-08-07
                              • 6703

                              #15
                              Yes you can get a mortgage and credit cards and lines of credit..... however in Canada you might have to get a co signer until you establish a payment history.
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                              • michalis
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-02-10
                                • 1439

                                #16
                                Originally posted by mikejamm
                                We all are!
                                does that mean I am one too? kewl
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                                • Fishhead
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-11-05
                                  • 40179

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bipolar
                                  Thanks for the serious replies,

                                  I am still in my 20s and have been playing as a poker pro for a year or so now and am moving into sports betting.... I do not have a mortgage or much of a credit history for that matter...

                                  WHY in the hell are you not paying taxes??????

                                  To answer your question, in past years if one put down 20-30% minumum down as down payment, they were almost guaranteed a mortgage.


                                  Secondly, if you SHOW INCOME from gambling, you definetly can qualify for a loan, I've qualified several times doing such.


                                  FH
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                                  • ngates815
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-01-09
                                    • 13845

                                    #18
                                    Like what Fishead said....

                                    I was putting down 24% on my house 3 years ago at 23 years old....Me and my dad were just starting our own company, because our old company wanted us both to relocate, I almost did because they were offering me 4 bucks more an hour.


                                    So, we had just started the company, and the mortgage guy was telling me that since we had just started a company, and I only received a pay check for the past 4 months, that most banks wouldn't lend me the money. Then he told me since I have over 20% to put down, that I would be able to do a "no doc" loan, where they don't need any work documentation, they just need to verify that I have money, or something like that. It's a type of mortgage where you pretty much don't show where your money comes from, where they receive most of there money in terms of Cash.

                                    I ended up not doing this and got a 30 yr fixed.

                                    And the guy said it's becoming harder and harder to get the No - Doc loans now. SO i'm not sure how it'd work out.
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                                    • milwaukee mike
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-22-07
                                      • 26914

                                      #19
                                      a couple points:
                                      GAMBLING WINNINGS BY A PROFESSIONAL GAMBLER IN CANADA ARE TAXABLE. so now you're essentially publicly admitting to thinking about breaking at least two laws, unless you're playing at a canadian-run online casino.


                                      gambling winnings by "recreational players" however are not taxable in canada, unlike the united states. so you're kind of in a catch-22, if the main source of your income is gambling then to get a loan you should show that on a tax return.

                                      Income not taxed
                                      The following types of income are not taxed in Canada (this list is not exhaustive):
                                      • gifts and inheritances;
                                      • lottery winnings;
                                      • winnings from betting or gambling for simple recreation or enjoyment;
                                      • strike pay;
                                      • compensation paid by a province or territory to a victim of a criminal act or a motor vehicle accident*;
                                      • certain civil and military service pensions;
                                      • income from certain international organizations of which Canada is a member, such as the United Nations and its agencies;
                                      • war disability pensions;
                                      • RCMP pensions or compensation paid in respect of injury, disability, or death*;
                                      • income of First Nations, if situated on a reserve;
                                      • capital gain on the sale of a taxpayer’s principal residence;
                                      • provincial child tax credits or benefits and Québec family allowances;
                                      • Working income tax benefit;
                                      • the Goods and Services Tax or Harmonized Sales Tax credit (GST/HST credit) or Quebec Sales Tax credit; and
                                      • the Canada Child Tax Benefit.
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                                      • ProfaneReality
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 04-14-09
                                        • 7607

                                        #20
                                        yeah a no doc loan would be the way to go, but the interest rate is much higher on a no doc loan
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                                        • str
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-12-09
                                          • 11819

                                          #21
                                          No Doc loans are history in today's market. Without pay stubs they will want tax records.
                                          Seems like you should rent until you can afford to put a lot down or buy outright.
                                          Occupational hazard .
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                                          • blackbeSSt
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-06-08
                                            • 9398

                                            #22
                                            better question is what is your credit score/history looking like?
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                                            • Justin7
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-31-06
                                              • 8577

                                              #23
                                              As long as you have excellent credit and file a tax return each year (and pay taxes), a mortgage is no problem.
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                                              • Fishhead
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-11-05
                                                • 40179

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Justin7
                                                As long as you have excellent credit and file a tax return each year (and pay taxes), a mortgage is no problem.


                                                +1



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                                                • Himalaya
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 12-09-09
                                                  • 334

                                                  #25
                                                  They will usually ask for your last 2 years tax returns, 2 recent pay stubs or proof of income, and run a credit report. But you could always pay cash.
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                                                  • philswin
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-18-07
                                                    • 1279

                                                    #26
                                                    No Income verification as well as no Doc and low Doc loans have all been eliminted. You must show history of income over a period of time as well as a credit history.
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                                                    • bipolar
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 04-25-10
                                                      • 252

                                                      #27
                                                      Thanks for the additional responses,
                                                      I guess I will work on my credit and consider paying tax on my gambling income...
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                                                      • sharpcat
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 12-19-09
                                                        • 4516

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ngates815
                                                        Like what Fishead said....

                                                        I was putting down 24% on my house 3 years ago at 23 years old....Me and my dad were just starting our own company, because our old company wanted us both to relocate, I almost did because they were offering me 4 bucks more an hour.


                                                        So, we had just started the company, and the mortgage guy was telling me that since we had just started a company, and I only received a pay check for the past 4 months, that most banks wouldn't lend me the money. Then he told me since I have over 20% to put down, that I would be able to do a "no doc" loan, where they don't need any work documentation, they just need to verify that I have money, or something like that. It's a type of mortgage where you pretty much don't show where your money comes from, where they receive most of there money in terms of Cash.

                                                        I ended up not doing this and got a 30 yr fixed.

                                                        And the guy said it's becoming harder and harder to get the No - Doc loans now. SO i'm not sure how it'd work out.
                                                        Government has pushed No-Doc loans out of the scenario it is a shame because many small business owners for tax purposes reinvest all of their profits back into the business and than pay themselves a small enough wage to live off of which makes it hard to get a loan because their income may only appear to be $30,000 a year. No-Doc loans along with adjustable rate mortgages were abused heavily up until 2007 which is what lead to the recession we are in right now, too many people lied about their income and were giving loans for homes they could not afford and once their mortgage rates reset they could no longer afford their homes.

                                                        If you are making your living gambling but are not paying taxes you have no legitimate proof of income and in this day in age it is almost impossible to get a loan, if you can not show steady income for the last 3 years and you do not have enough $$$ to buy a house in cash than you can forget about it.

                                                        In the future pay taxes on your income so that you can use this to get loans, and more importantly if you buy a house and put anything more than $9,999.00 down but your tax records show $0.00 income over the last few years you had better be prepared for a visit from the IRS.
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                                                        • Chi_archie
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-22-08
                                                          • 63172

                                                          #29
                                                          interesting question
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82856

                                                            #30
                                                            Why do you need a mortgage?
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                                                            • BatemanPatrickl
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 06-21-07
                                                              • 18772

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by playersonly69
                                                              You are at first making a real bad assumption. You are assuming that professional gamblers do not pay taxes!
                                                              Good statement right here
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