How many LAS VEGAS sportsbooks offer phone accounts presently???

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  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #1
    How many LAS VEGAS sportsbooks offer phone accounts presently???
    Thanks in advance

    FH
  • betplom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-20-06
    • 13444

    #2
    You sit in front of a computer, you are connected to the internet, and you want OTHERS to do things for you?

    Google is your friend.

    If you saw a treasure in a dumpster would you ask someoene else to go get it for you?

    No, you'd be into the shit bin like blood on a tampon.
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    • jackpot269
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-24-07
      • 12842

      #3
      that was a was gross comparison betplom !
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      • nosniboR11
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-02-08
        • 10042

        #4
        great post bet, fish just trying to get people to post in his thread , quota, here i help
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        • WileOut
          SBR MVP
          • 02-04-07
          • 3844

          #5
          I've never been to vegas but I don't think any do fisher. But you would know more about this than me. So you tell us fisher.
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          • Iceman
            SBR Sharp
            • 08-29-08
            • 486

            #6
            It's not many. I think just two properties. I know for a fact you can at Leroy's and Stations.

            the big problem with phone accounts is they limit how much you can bet a day with them. I think its only like 2k or so for the whole day. Not sure why, makes no sense.
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            • spartangreen
              SBR MVP
              • 11-25-09
              • 3807

              #7
              Leroys you can
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              • playersonly69
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-04-08
                • 12827

                #8
                It is best that people DO NOT mention the books that allow this. But I think that the number is around 4 Fish
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                • Iceman
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 08-29-08
                  • 486

                  #9
                  Originally posted by playersonly69
                  It is best that people DO NOT mention the books that allow this. But I think that the number is around 4 Fish

                  what? why? I have never once heard anyone say that.

                  Nobody uses them in town cause of their low limits. Basically an outlet for smaller players.
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40179

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Iceman
                    It's not many. I think just two properties. I know for a fact you can at Leroy's and Stations.

                    the big problem with phone accounts is they limit how much you can bet a day with them. I think its only like 2k or so for the whole day. Not sure why, makes no sense.

                    In the past month, my decision to return to VEGAS to reside has increased dramatically...............


                    DECEMBER/JANUARY timeframe
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                    • Fishhead
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-11-05
                      • 40179

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Iceman
                      what? why? I have never once heard anyone say that.

                      Nobody uses them in town cause of their low limits. Basically an outlet for smaller players.

                      I was basically looking into this for BILLSFAN...............
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        I think just 3 or so
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                        • Iceman
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 08-29-08
                          • 486

                          #13
                          No I hear ya. I am not a big player by no means and I can find use for them. So why not use them? If they have the best number I will play there. In fact I don't use them enough and really plan on bringing this into my plans a little more this football season.

                          Really hope so Fishhead. Seems SportsSavant is moving out for this football season. Currently in SD myself for a few more weeks, waiting for things to cool down a bit. Should be lots of fun in the coming months.
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                          • playersonly69
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                            • 01-04-08
                            • 12827

                            #14
                            I am thinking of moving to Vegas as well, but not neccessarily for sports betting. I am moving there for poker.


                            The $2000 a day is pretty good amount for me during baseball season. I only bet higher than that on the weekends so that number is pretty damn good. During basketball season, that number could be a little low on occassion, but i could live with it. I have heard that the limits are higher for football season though.
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                            • betplom
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-20-06
                              • 13444

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jackpot269
                              that was a was gross comparison betplom !
                              Thank you.

                              Originally posted by nosniboR11
                              great post bet, fish just trying to get people to post in his thread , quota, here i help
                              Thank you too.

                              Fishys schtick is repetitive, asking posters questions that he already knows the answer to or could easily find out by searching for the info himself.

                              Fishy is as sharp as a marble.
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                              • Grits n' Gravy
                                Restricted User
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 13024

                                #16
                                stations and leroys for sure. think mgm/mirage did at some point and i know lvsands and a few other are toying with idea of online/phone bets. small wagers only.
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                                • SaviorTebow
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 07-20-10
                                  • 219

                                  #17
                                  Station Casino's lets you set up an account where you can make bets over the phone or on your computer. I've been tempted to sign up for it, but never got around to it. Apparently you have to be in the Las Vegas area when you make the call. But if you have a 702 (local) area code on your cell, I don't know how they could track it. Think you have to be a resident of Southern NV too.
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                                  • Fishhead
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-11-05
                                    • 40179

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by betplom
                                    Thank you.


                                    Thank you too.

                                    Fishys schtick is repetitive, asking posters questions that he already knows the answer to or could easily find out by searching for the info himself.

                                    Fishy is as sharp as a marble.


                                    I get asked repeatedly how I've been successful over so many years in this business............I simply direct them to posts at sportsforums like yours above and this answers their question immediately.




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                                    • betplom
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-20-06
                                      • 13444

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Fishhead
                                      I get asked repeatedly how I've been successful over so many years in this business............I simply direct them to posts at sportsforums like yours above and this answers their question immediately.

                                      Right, you're unable to answer questions yourself so you "direct them to posts at sports forums".

                                      You claim to be successful, but offer nothing more. Smoke and mirrors pal, thats all you got.
                                      Nigerian scammers are smooth compared to you.


                                      Fishaaaaay!
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                                      • Iceman
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 08-29-08
                                        • 486

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SaviorTebow
                                        Station Casino's lets you set up an account where you can make bets over the phone or on your computer. I've been tempted to sign up for it, but never got around to it. Apparently you have to be in the Las Vegas area when you make the call. But if you have a 702 (local) area code on your cell, I don't know how they could track it. Think you have to be a resident of Southern NV too.

                                        That is corect and something I forgot to add. It's not the telephone wagering at Stations but the best thing is the interent wagering. You set it up to bet just like an offshore account, real cool.
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                                        • jordan_gt_99
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 12-20-08
                                          • 174

                                          #21
                                          calling in your bets is overrated
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                                          • Fishhead
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-11-05
                                            • 40179

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jordan_gt_99
                                            calling in your bets is overrated

                                            Not if you are at HOME and get a great number just by dialing or going on the net..............JUST ANOTHER PLUS.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Iceman
                                              That is corect and something I forgot to add. It's not the telephone wagering at Stations but the best thing is the interent wagering. You set it up to bet just like an offshore account, real cool.

                                              They must verify youre residency somehow

                                              No way any non resident is going to play there just with a 702 area code

                                              A 702 cell phone could help but you still need a Vegas address to match your name, if they run your ss# your busted, you can definately get a fake Vegas Drivers licesne but has to be more than that.
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                                              • SlickFazzer
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 05-22-08
                                                • 20209

                                                #24
                                                get a proxy.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  1. Sports Connection wagers are accepted only within the Las Vegas area. Nevada law prohibits wagers originating from outside the State of Nevada. Sports Connection accountholders understand that it is illegal to place a wager originating outside the State of Nevada.
                                                  2. All Sports Connection applications must be made in person and applicants must provide Station Casinos with acceptable valid proof of identification, proof of residence and Social Security Number.
                                                  3. All account applicants must be twenty-one (21) years or older.
                                                  4. All Sports Connection account transactions must be made by the account holder, only. Accounts are limited to the sole and exclusive use of the individual named on the application. Account deposits and withdrawals must be made in person. Agents or other representatives are not permitted.
                                                  5. A minimum $100.00 deposit must be made to open a Sports Connection account. Deposits to Sports Connection accounts must be made in cash or Station Casinos chips or tokens. Patrons may exchange for cash, personal checks, cashier’s checks, wire transfers, money orders, debit cards, credit cards and electronic transfers of money at the Casino Cage.
                                                  6. All account deposits and withdrawals must be signed and authorized by the guest at the Race and Sports Book during normal business hours. No agents or representatives are allowed.
                                                  7. All account withdrawals and subsequent deposits must be made at the same Station Casino’s property where the funds were initially placed on deposit.
                                                  8. Sports Connection account patrons will be required to provide account number and acceptable valid identification when conducting account transactions. Patrons may access their Sports Connections accounts while they are on the premises of the Sports Book.
                                                  9. Sports Connection wagers will not be accepted if they exceed the account balance.
                                                  10. Sports Connection wagers are subject to established wagering limits.
                                                  11. Sports Connection wagers will be accepted twenty-one (21) hours each day. Wagers will not be accepted from 3:00 a.m. through 6:00 a.m.
                                                  12. Guests acknowledge that free fax run-downs are limited to three per day. A Sports Connection account will be charged $1 per fax in excess of this limit. A minimum balance of $10.00 must be maintained to be eligible for free fax run-downs, if the account balance is less that $10.00 the account will be charged $1.00 per fax. In addition, there must be a minimum of $200.00 in account wagers made during the last thirty-day (30) period to be eligible for free fax run-downs, otherwise the account will be charged $1.00 per fax.
                                                  13. Sports Connection rules, upon regulatory review, are subject to change by Station Casinos at any time.
                                                  14. Minimum deposit $100.00, minimum wager $5.00.
                                                  15. All applicable Station Casinos Race and Sports Book house rules and regulations apply to Sports Connection wagering accounts.
                                                  16. The Station Casinos will provide patrons upon reasonable request a statement of account showing each wagering account deposit, each wagering account withdrawal, each credit to a wagering account, and each debit to the wagering account made during the time period reported by the account statement. Patrons may dispute any transaction according to Nevada Gaming Commission Regulation 7A.
                                                  17. Station Casinos will make a print, electronic or other approved record of the Sports Connection entire transaction and shall not accept any such wager or transaction if the recording system is inoperable. Recorded wagering transactions shall be maintained for a minimum of 60 days. The record of the patron’s confirmation of all wagering information shall be deemed to be the transaction of record, regardless of what was recorded by the computerized bookmaking or pari-mutuel system. The records are made available to the Nevada Gaming Control Board upon request.
                                                  18. Guest acknowledges that a wager placed using Station Casinos Sports Connection system is binding on both parties only when the Station Casinos Sport Connection system responds: WAGER IS CONFIRMED on the phone system or the message “YOUR WAGER HAS BEEN ACCEPTED” is displayed for PC wagers.
                                                  19. Station Casinos has the right to:
                                                    • Refuse the establishment or maintenance of accounts for what it deems good and sufficient reason;
                                                    • Refuse deposits to accounts for what it deems good and sufficient reason;
                                                    • Refuse to accept all or part of any wager for what it deems good and sufficient reason;
                                                    • Declare the account wagering system closed for receiving any or all wagers;
                                                    • Suspend or close any account at any time, provided, however, when an account is closed, Station Casinos shall, within five business days, return the balance of the wagering account at the time of said action, subject to compliance with Nevada Gaming regulations, Station Casinos’ house rules, and federal and state laws and regulations, by sending a check to the patron’s address of record; or
                                                    • Close any wagering account when the patron thereof attempts to operate with an insufficient balance or when the account is dormant for a period determined by Station Casinos. In either case, Station Casinos shall refund the balance of the Sports Connection wagering account, subject to compliance with Nevada Gaming regulations, Station Casinos’ house rules, and federal or state law.

                                                  20. Station Casinos shall keep confidential, except from the patron, the Nevada Gaming Control Board or as otherwise required by federal or state law:
                                                    • The amount of money credited to, debited from, or present in any particular patron’s Sports Connection wagering account;
                                                    • The amount of money wagered by a particular patron on any event;
                                                    • The account number and secure personal identification method that identifies
                                                      the patron;
                                                    • The identities of particular entries on which a patron is wagering or has wagered
                                                      and;
                                                    • Unless otherwise authorized by a patron, the name, address, and other information
                                                      in the possession of Station Casinos that would identify the patron to anyone
                                                      other than the Nevada Gaming Control Board or Station Casinos.

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                                                  • Albert Pujols
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-01-10
                                                    • 1670

                                                    #26
                                                    They give you a pager that tracks your location to make sure you are in Nevada. You page them and they call you back to make a bet. No way anyone cold do this outside of Nevada.
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                                                    • JerseyShop101
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 09-04-08
                                                      • 2704

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Albert Pujols
                                                      They give you a pager that tracks your location to make sure you are in Nevada. You page them and they call you back to make a bet. No way anyone cold do this outside of Nevada.
                                                      Wow, I never knew that. It would be cool if there was a way around this- that you could leave the pager with a friend in Nevada.

                                                      Maybe they can have it incorporated into probation ankle monitors as well, lol.
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                                                      • samhouston
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 07-19-10
                                                        • 37

                                                        #28
                                                        ZERO, it's against the law for them to even give a line over the phone, if you are talking about the casino sportsbooks
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                                                        • Wojo
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-19-10
                                                          • 1764

                                                          #29
                                                          There is a lot of misinformation in this thread. I live in Vegas and have accounts at the ONLY two books that offer off-property sports betting: Leroys and Station Casinos. Both of them gave me pagers when I signed up but I have never used them once so they obviously don't page me to verify I am in NV. When you sign up, you have to show ID, proof of residency, and SS#.

                                                          There is a huge difference between the two. Leroy's is an automated phone system. However, there are times that a sports book employee will come on the phone line while you are waiting approval of your wager. Usually, this is to announce a line change or that they will only allow a portion of your wager at the current line. I stopped using Leroy's phone system because it became too much of a hassle. Plus, Leroy's put in an automatic betting kiosk at a Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant that is 5" away.

                                                          Stations uses an intranet. You install some software on your computer and you are able to connect to their sportsbook. They have a $500 net win per wager limit and you can only bet a total of $2300 in one day.

                                                          Contrary to what someone else posted, I know a number of professional sports bettors who use Stations intranet. If you are serious about making money, you will have as many outs as possible. It is a great time saver and you can see the actual live lines. (some line services don't have Stations lines or they are inaccurate or delayed) Many times I will get a better line at Stations than I can at other outs of mine. Plus, I can walk in and get money in a couple of minutes from my account.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Wojo
                                                            There is a lot of misinformation in this thread. I live in Vegas and have accounts at the ONLY two books that offer off-property sports betting: Leroys and Station Casinos. Both of them gave me pagers when I signed up but I have never used them once so they obviously don't page me to verify I am in NV. When you sign up, you have to show ID, proof of residency, and SS#.

                                                            There is a huge difference between the two. Leroy's is an automated phone system. However, there are times that a sports book employee will come on the phone line while you are waiting approval of your wager. Usually, this is to announce a line change or that they will only allow a portion of your wager at the current line. I stopped using Leroy's phone system because it became too much of a hassle. Plus, Leroy's put in an automatic betting kiosk at a Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant that is 5" away.

                                                            Stations uses an intranet. You install some software on your computer and you are able to connect to their sportsbook. They have a $500 net win per wager limit and you can only bet a total of $2300 in one day.

                                                            Contrary to what someone else posted, I know a number of professional sports bettors who use Stations intranet. If you are serious about making money, you will have as many outs as possible. It is a great time saver and you can see the actual live lines. (some line services don't have Stations lines or they are inaccurate or delayed) Many times I will get a better line at Stations than I can at other outs of mine. Plus, I can walk in and get money in a couple of minutes from my account.
                                                            Well that sums up this thread pretty well, I am surprised Vegas does not have more sophisticated online/phone wagering options. They never seem to do anything right.
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                                                            • Trident
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-07-09
                                                              • 2362

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Wojo
                                                              Stations uses an intranet. You install some software on your computer and you are able to connect to their sportsbook. They have a $500 net win per wager limit and you can only bet a total of $2300 in one day.

                                                              Contrary to what someone else posted, I know a number of professional sports bettors who use Stations intranet. If you are serious about making money, you will have as many outs as possible. It is a great time saver and you can see the actual live lines. (some line services don't have Stations lines or they are inaccurate or delayed) Many times I will get a better line at Stations than I can at other outs of mine. Plus, I can walk in and get money in a couple of minutes from my account.
                                                              I know Stations Internet system use to be run on a closed loop which meant you had to use COX as your ISP and you could only sign on if you had their software downloaded on your PC, not sure if this is still the case but no doubt they have something similar to it in place.
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                                                              • Wojo
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-19-10
                                                                • 1764

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                Well that sums up this thread pretty well, I am surprised Vegas does not have more sophisticated online/phone wagering options. They never seem to do anything right.
                                                                The sportsbooks are not a great money maker for casinos. The two big casino owners, MGM and Harrahs, are not interested in bringing in sharp sports bettors. One look at their futures odds and betting limits and you will quickly realize they prefer having squares place wagers in their books. Why go to the expense of implementing and maintaining a system that the sharper bettors in Nevada will jump all over?

                                                                Cantor gaming has introduced in-game wagering at some independent books such as the M Resort, Venetian/Palazzo, and soon at the Hard Rock and the Tropicana. If anybody else would offer off-property wagering, I believe it would be one of these locales.

                                                                The main area NV books make money is on the ponies. However, neither Leroys nor Stations offer off-property horse betting. In fact, it might not even be legal in NV.

                                                                Wojo
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