Police block overseas gambling websites

[Brock Landers]

• Published 03:14 15.07.10
• Latest update 03:14 15.07.10

Police block overseas gambling websites

By Amitai Ziv

Israeli would-be gamblers will be left bereft of a venue after the police ordered Israel's Internet service providers to block access to overseas gambling websites. Gambling is illegal in Israel, explain the police.
This is the first time Israeli ISPs have been ordered to block sites.

Israel Police representatives visited every Israeli ISP over the past few days to personally deliver the directive.
The police handed the providers a list of overseas gambling sites and their IP (Internet protocol) addresses to be blocked. According to the police order, the sites "provide a place for illegal gaming for lotteries or gambling, as defined in Section 224 of the Penal Code."
"It is my intention to order your company not to provide users with access to these sites," states the police order, which is signed by Central District commander Maj. Gen. Bentzi Sau.
The list of banned sites includes such well-known names as Victor Chandler. Many of them are directed specifically at the Israeli public and some are even in Hebrew, though most addresses end with the extension "com" (as opposed to "co.il").
Internet service providers argue that the order doesn't make sense. Any block on specific IP addresses can easily be circumvented by the websites, by the simple means of creating new websites, they explain.
In addition, the ISPs say, whatever the police may say in the order, the police does not have the legal authority to block sites.
The police asked the providers to respond within 48 hours of receiving the order. A number of ISPs have asked for a one-week extension to study the legal and technological implications of the issue at stake.
The police commented that the order stands, and added that they have no intention of changing their decision after receiving responses from the ISPs.

[Masu485]

Fukking Jews never let each other ruin their lives.

[OmgUrMom]

dude some guy from tel aviv beat me out of $300 hu on pokerstars the other day. this could of came a little sooner

[Brock Landers]

No wonder John Anthony no longer posts here..

[chilidog]

This does make me wonder why the us govt has not simply done this before. True, there are always around it, but it is a simpler solution that requiring the banks to identify any transaction as a possible gambling transaction.

[Brock Landers]

This does make me wonder why the us govt has not simply done this before. True, there are always around it, but it is a simpler solution that requiring the banks to identify any transaction as a possible gambling transaction.

we have rules and laws here regarding the internet...Israel is like China in that way

[chilidog]

Not sure what rules and laws you're referring to. Internet providers block access to sites all the time. Email is filtered.

If somebody setup a store in a city, and openly advertised that they sold heroin and cocaine, the police should shut them down, thus blocking any access for anybody to purchase from them, because they are doing something illegal.

How is a sportsbook any different, when the us government has declared it illegal for us citizens to gamble online?

[pavyracer]

Police in the USA should block all illegal gambling websites. If we can pass a law banning illegal immigrants in Arizona we can enforce the law banning overseas gambling websites by blocking IP address of anything unamerican. Sending money overseas for gambling is unpatriotic and unamerican.

[CarpeDime]

Not sure what rules and laws you're referring to. Internet providers block access to sites all the time. Email is filtered.

If somebody setup a store in a city, and openly advertised that they sold heroin and cocaine, the police should shut them down, thus blocking any access for anybody to purchase from them, because they are doing something illegal.

How is a sportsbook any different, when the us government has declared it illegal for us citizens to gamble online?

If someone outside of the US set up a website openly selling drugs and it didn't get shut down in its home country, would US providers block access?

[chilidog]

If someone outside of the US set up a website openly selling drugs and it didn't get shut down in its home country, would US providers block access?

I guess that would depend of if the website was soliciting and selling to US customers. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that the government has ordered ISPs to block access to certain illegal material (ie child pornography).

Of course, I am not in favor of them doing so, as I obviously support gambling, but if they truly wanting to shut it down, it be easier for them to just create a blacklist of domains/IPs and force american ISPs to filter the access, the exact same way that it is already being done to filter out much of the spam email that we receive.

[Emily_Haines]

A lot of the teabagging pieces of shit that post in this forum would like nothing better than modeling our country like Israel.

perpetual wars, mandatory military service, large fence around the country to keep everyone out, far right wing extremists win every election, ignoring the international community, no gambling

fuk that

[jim]

the decline of the american empire is well underway.

[soli]

seem to be hearing a lot of this lately

[Intuitive_Edge]

ridiculous on all levels.

[tblues2005]

I call this horrible.

[mikejamm]

What would Jesus bet on! Since he was a Jew, why not let the Jews gamble? Hell they got an inside track to the big man himself now, ......George Steinbrenner!

[Diesel79]

Estonian government did the same...... but if you use google DNS then you can still access all sites so basically nothing changed.

[saintjames]

jews are very hypocritical people...they never practice what they preach

[Maverick22]

Police in the USA should block all illegal gambling websites. If we can pass a law banning illegal immigrants in Arizona we can enforce the law banning overseas gambling websites by blocking IP address of anything unamerican. Sending money overseas for gambling is unpatriotic and unamerican.

I have to respectfully disagree...

I would agree with your statement regarding patriotism IF and ONLY IF Americans had AMERICAN online sportsbooks they could patron... ( And saying "Vegas" isnt a counter argument...)

Its not Un-American to go foreign if you don't have to option to buy "Made In America"...

That is... unless that was sarcasm

[pavyracer]

I have to respectfully disagree...

I would agree with your statement regarding patriotism IF and ONLY IF Americans had AMERICAN online sportsbooks they could patron... ( And saying "Vegas" isnt a counter argument...)

Its not Un-American to go foreign if you don't have to option to buy "Made In America"...

That is... unless that was sarcasm

Let me ask you this question: Which is the worst of both evils? Illegal immigrants taking away jobs no American wants to do for such low wages? Or, Americans sending money overseas to foreigners for illegal gambling activities? Which of the two hurts the US economy the most?

[Maverick22]

I dont consider either of them evil. But i will still answer your question...(which is also an unfair one)

I dont have a problem with either...

The US imposed those laws making it illegal for an US online sportsbook to operate... If people will do it anyways, the US loses out... So they should make it legal and tax it. I dont see why not? People will continue to do it anyways. Maybe the Nevada lobbyist dont want to see this happen? And that is the sole reason?

But to answer your question, IF I HAD TO PICK which is worse? I'd first ask...worse for who? the worst evil from who's perspctive?

If your reply is "who is worse from the Maverick22 perspective..." I'd have to say "neither"... I dont have a problem with illegals...As long as they get car insurance (Goes for anyone driving on the road)... Had an accident drive off...and those are never fun...

I dont have a problem with offshore sportsbook...its called taking advantage of an opportunity. The US cant have them... Classic supply and demand... And no...that doesnt make me un American.

I am all for people being able to move to America for a better life. It was the whole premise back in Colonial days. But current day, why are we so quick to point fingers at people doing it now?

At least that is my take on it.

[Onefreedm1nd]

Police in the USA should block all illegal gambling websites. If we can pass a law banning illegal immigrants in Arizona we can enforce the law banning overseas gambling websites by blocking IP address of anything unamerican. Sending money overseas for gambling is unpatriotic and unamerican.

LMFAO at hillbilly jonny the ex GM assembly line worker ^

[pavyracer]

The law has to be enforced in everything to have a democratic society. The law says being illegal in this country is a crime and all violators should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The law also says gambling on offshore gambling websites is illegal. It doesn't matter that people don't agree with the law. Now if you don't like the law do something about it and change it. But until the law is changed it should be enforced by any means. I would love to see sports gambling joints at every corner in this country the same way you find Starbucks and McDonalds. Then I would know that if I lose some of my losses would help the community. But I will not send my money to some donkey rider in Nicaragua so I can bet American Football and Baseball. American sports should not be wagered on in foreign third world countries but not allowed to be wagered in USA. Support your local economy and not the economies of Nicaragua and El Salvador.

[TobiasFunke]

Let me ask you this question: Which is the worst of both evils? Illegal immigrants taking away jobs no American wants to do for such low wages? Or, Americans sending money overseas to foreigners for illegal gambling activities? Which of the two hurts the US economy the most?

But the only reason we have to send the money overseas is because we don't have the option to "boost the economy" and play legally in the states.

[JoeB]

Police in the USA should block all illegal gambling websites. If we can pass a law banning illegal immigrants in Arizona we can enforce the law banning overseas gambling websites by blocking IP address of anything unamerican. Sending money overseas for gambling is unpatriotic and unamerican.

HELLO ??? You are posting in a Gamblers BLOG!!!!

[Flying Dutchman]

Israel is a police state. This is an absolute violation of free speech. You'd think since these guys had the shit kicked out of them 65 years ago they'd not become Nazis themselves.

[maersksealand]

This does make me wonder why the us govt has not simply done this before. True, there are always around it, but it is a simpler solution that requiring the banks to identify any transaction as a possible gambling transaction.

are you really this stupid ?

[chilidog]

are you really this stupid ?

No.

If they have decided to make something illegal, one would assume they would want to enforce said law. Their decision to enforce this law was to put the responsibility on the banks to identify gambling transactions, and to block them. That is easily done with credit cards, because merchant accounts require a unique identifier specifying that the merchant account will be used to process gambling transactions. However, with instant deposit/eft transfers, checks, wire transfers, and even person-to-person cash transfers via ** and **, this becomes rather difficult to do.

Therefore, since they have made online gambling illegal, would it not be easier for the government to just block access to their citizens from doing something that they have already said was illegal to do so?

[Grind-It-Out]

Police in the USA should block all illegal gambling websites. If we can pass a law banning illegal immigrants in Arizona we can enforce the law banning overseas gambling websites by blocking IP address of anything unamerican. Sending money overseas for gambling is unpatriotic and unamerican.

I suppose you also think that international trade has hurt our economy? You fukking idiot.

[ttwarrior1]

who cares about israel

[pavyracer]

I suppose you also think that international trade has hurt our economy? You fukking idiot.

International trade has indeed hurt our economy. China trade deficit is in the trillions the last decade as well as trade deficit with Japan. Japanese automakers and electronic and electric manufacturers dominate the US economy. Chinese make everything from toilet paper to paint to toys sold in the US. US bonds are owned by the Chinese.

And how is offshore betting from US citizens is considered international trade? What do the US taxpayers get back in return from all the money send to 3rd world countries for illegal gambling activities. Enlighten us please?

[Grind-It-Out]

International trade has indeed hurt our economy. China trade deficit is in the trillions the last decade as well as trade deficit with Japan. Japanese automakers and electronic and electric manufacturers dominate the US economy. Chinese make everything from toilet paper to paint to toys sold in the US. US bonds are owned by the Chinese.

And how is offshore betting from US citizens is considered international trade? What do the US taxpayers get back in return from all the money send to 3rd world countries for illegal gambling activities. Enlighten us please?

To your first paragraph: Go take Econ 101 at your community college and then come talk to us.

To your second paragraph: I would not consider offshore betting to be international trade. I only brought up international trade because you made a point to focus on the offshore portion of it.

The US taxpayers don't get anything back from offshore betting, but they also don't pay anything for offshore betting. I suppose what you are suggesting is that we all fly to Las Vegas every morning to place our bets. Well, that's just not reasonable. If our gov't decided to legalize online gambling, it could make a killing off of it, and I would be one of its customers. But since it decides to remain ignorant to the "free country" idea, we are left with little other choice but to go offshore.

[dgratz3]

the decline of the american empire is well underway.

Yes, Yes it is.

[milwaukee mike]

A lot of the teabagging pieces of shit that post in this forum would like nothing better than modeling our country like Israel.

perpetual wars, mandatory military service, large fence around the country to keep everyone out, far right wing extremists win every election, ignoring the international community, no gambling

fuk that

UM SORRY but the tea party was founded as a libertarian movement AGAINST wars and FOR freedoms like gambling, before zionist shills like palin/beck claimed it was a conservative/republican movement

last time i checked obama said the first thing he was going to do, once elected, was bring EVERY SINGLE TROOP home from afghanistan and iraq. and didn't congress say the same thing when the democrats took over in 2006? hmmm still waiting...

so in essence your "far right wing extremists" are no different than your "far left wing extremists". they work for the same military-industrial complex

media and government are are all owned by the same small group of people (rothschilds/rockefellers/large corporations)