SBR Store: Fix Your FreePlay Rules So Others Dont Get ****ed Over(well sorta) Like Me

[whatsgood5]

Rollover Rules from the SBR Stores

• Rollover (how many times an amount must be wagered): 8X (8 times) of the amount WON from the free-play
• What this means: If you place your $250 Free Bet on an NFL parlay which pays out $500, you will need to put 8X the winnings ($4000) in action before being able to request a withdrawal.

That's bullshit. It's not 8x in action, it's 8x the lesser amount of the win/risk amount. Fix that shit so others dont get ****ed by it like me.

[Chi_archie]

standard rollover counting rules by many of the freeplay shops

[big joe 1212]

Who said it's the lesser amount?

[tltaylor89]

Did you lose that cash you won?

[SBR Lou]

That's bullshit. It's not 8x in action, it's 8x the lesser amount of the win/risk amount. Fix that shit so others dont get ****ed by it like me.

These aren't rules created by the SBR Store. Each sportsbook has different freeplay terms, some w/ higher rollover, some that calculate based on rolling over the initial win amount X times. This is taken into account when pricing the offers, that's why a BetPhoenix freeplay for example costs lower than others in the store.

The offer page for each freeplay lists the terms and conditions per that sportsbook.

[whatsgood5]

These aren't rules created by the SBR Store. Each sportsbook has different freeplay terms, some w/ higher rollover, some that calculate based on rolling over the initial win amount X times. This is taken into account when pricing the offers, that's why a BetPhoenix freeplay for example costs lower than others in the store. The offer page for each freeplay lists the terms and conditions per that sportsbook.

I put what it says on their "offer page" in my original post. Nowhere does it say anything about the lesser amount of the risk/win, it simply says "you will need to put 8X the winnings in action"...

[whatsgood5]

Who said it's the lesser amount?

Betphoenix.

[whatsgood5]

I would also like to add that while I am kinda unhappy about the wording here, I'm greatful as **** for the amount of $$$ made off of this, just think it could be re-worded so others dont have the same problem.

[blanda]

If you are good, you can cash out!

[MBENZ]

Phoenix rollover requirements are some of the worst in the business.If you are an in and out player,that place sucks.

[whatsgood5]

If you are good, you can cash out!

Really? So I just gotta let them know that I am "good", and they'll let me cash out??? I wish I knew that shit when I had $6,900 in my account

[whatsgood5]

Phoenix rollover requirements are some of the worst in the business.If you are an in and out player,that place sucks.

I've got no problems with their requirements, I just wish I knew what they actually were. Would have had a few more $$$ in my account right now...

[SBR Lou]

I put what it says on their "offer page" in my original post. Nowhere does it say anything about the lesser amount of the risk/win, it simply says "you will need to put 8X the winnings in action"...

That action is counted by using the lesser of the risk/win. If you have a 1X rollover and wager a -5000 favorite with your balance, are you aware of any sportsbook that will count this and let you withdraw your funds+bonus right away?

I misread your complaint at first - I thought you were taking issue with how BetPhoenix requires you to rollover the amount won off your freeplay 8X, rather than the FP amount itself (which is clearly stated on offer page). We will add the line about the standard risk/win policy that sportsbooks use.

[whatsgood5]

That action is counted by using the lesser of the risk/win. If you have a 1X rollover and wager a -5000 favorite with your balance, are you aware of any sportsbook that will count this and let you withdraw your funds+bonus right away? I misread your complaint at first - I thought you were taking issue with how BetPhoenix requires you to rollover the amount won off your freeplay 8X, rather than the FP amount itself (which is clearly stated on offer page). We will add the line about the standard risk/win policy that sportsbooks use.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with that? There's a rule listed on each page that specifically says any wager +/-200 doesn't count, so obviously people are going to know that that's the case. Whereas with this, there is nothing mentioned about it, in fact it says something that would lead people to believe otherwise. Definitely a good idea to add that line, thanks.

Also nothing personal here, you do a good job here, and you've always been helpful to me. I'm just incredibly pissed off and venting.

[MBENZ]

I've got no problems with their requirements, I just wish I knew what they actually were. Would have had a few more $$$ in my account right now...

Don't know what bonus you got but they usually make your rollover your initial deposit plus bonus which is ****ed up.If you bought a free play,it should have only been 8 times the amount in action unless you had rollover not completed from a previous transaction.Problem with that joint is the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

[Slim]

People are complaining about free shit. Unreal.

[tltaylor89]

5dimes would have been a better choice WG5 they only have 4x rollovers.Betphoenix is a total mockery especially if you take a bonus their.

[whatsgood5]

People are complaining about free shit. Unreal.

gtfo.

[whatsgood5]

5dimes would have been a better choice WG5 they only have 4x rollovers.Betphoenix is a total mockery especially if you take a bonus their.

Im perfectly content with the choice I made.

[smitch124]

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with that? There's a rule listed on each page that specifically says any wager +/-200 doesn't count, so obviously people are going to know that that's the case. Whereas with this, there is nothing mentioned about it, in fact it says something that would lead people to believe otherwise. Definitely a good idea to add that line, thanks.

Also nothing personal here, you do a good job here, and you've always been helpful to me. I'm just incredibly pissed off and venting.

I'm pretty sure the +/- 200 is for the freeplay plays. Once that is made those requirements no longer apply. The lower of risk/win is a very standard rule when betting to the rollover for the reasons Lou stated.

One thing that is different for Bet Phoenix (family) vs. other books is 8X the winnings for the rollover instead of simply the freeplay amount.

[whatsgood5]

I'm pretty sure the +/- 200 is for the freeplay plays. Once that is made those requirements no longer apply. The lower of risk/win is a very standard rule when betting to the rollover for the reasons Lou stated. One thing that is different for Bet Phoenix (family) vs. other books is 8X the winnings for the rollover instead of simply the freeplay amount.

From the BetPhoenix FP page:

"Wagers that do not count toward the rollover: Moneylines wagers -200/+200"

[smitch124]

Don't see that rule anywhere.

[whatsgood5]

Don't see that rule anywhere.

http://store.sbrforum.com/products/166--250-BetPhoenix-Free-Play

It's the one that says "Wagers that do not count toward the rollover: Moneylines wagers -200/+200"

[smitch124]

Don't see that rule anywhere.

Oh on the SBR freeplay page, I think that's a mistake. Those are the freeplay rules not the rollover rules. I believe its worded wrong.

[whatsgood5]

Oh on the SBR freeplay page, I think that's a mistake. Those are the freeplay rules not the rollover rules. I believe its worded wrong.

I believe you are incorrect, but it's irrelevant anyways.

[MBENZ]

Just pay the extra freight and buy Jamaica FP.No hassles ever.

[Slim]

gtfo.

SBR John should tell you to gtfo.

[hockeyman30304]

wow that sucks...I wish I could get that many points tho

[exstatman]

The moral to the story is if you have 2 plays, one at +100 and one at +190, make sure you bet the lower price first so as to keep the rollover down. If you have a $100 FP, the difference in rollover based on the above example is $720

[blix177]

Cheap $250 and still not enough.

[vitalogist]

I'm missing something here, what do you have left to roll, WG?