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  • MB
    SBR MVP
    • 02-05-09
    • 1072

    #36
    Bud selig is a boob. It's a perfect game n.igga! Change the damn play. Totally spineless. Baseball is so slow to react to things
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    • mtneer1212
      SBR MVP
      • 06-22-08
      • 4993

      #37
      Good call Bud.
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      • stealthyburrito
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-12-09
        • 21562

        #38
        it's probably more memorable this way, it woulda been known as the third perfect game in a months time.

        Now it will be remembered as the most infamous imperfect perfect game.

        besides anyone with sense will recognize it as a perfect game.
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        • warriorfan707
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-29-08
          • 13698

          #39
          Originally posted by DrStale
          Jesus Christ, you ever gonna shut up about this? The guy blew one call and you want him decapitated. Move on.

          Good call Bud, shit happens.
          Decapitated? I wouldn't go that far...

          The thing that bothers me the most about it all is people are all up on his nuts like the guy is a Saint. Hes a blind fukkin retard. Even if he didn't see what happened, you can't call him safe in that situation.

          You are not understanding how horrible of a call it really was, that is the issue.
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          • hoopster42
            Restricted User
            • 02-12-08
            • 6099

            #40
            people who know what theyre talking about are agreeing with seligs decision. the rest are not
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            • warriorfan707
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-29-08
              • 13698

              #41
              You can't overturn it, thats just nonsense. He's not gonna shit on 120 years of baseball history so Gallarraga can be recognized for a perfect game when anyone with common sense knows exactly what happened anyway.

              Its a formality.
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              • BadNina
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-27-07
                • 10491

                #42
                it wouldn't have changed anything but a scorebook if he had had the balls to do it. He sucks. At least the ump admits he screwed up so big. Baseball sucks and so does Bud.

                Hoopster, don't be onoxious. It isn't becoming.
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                • warriorfan707
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-29-08
                  • 13698

                  #43
                  Baseball doesn't suck. Selig's a fag though
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                  • hoopster42
                    Restricted User
                    • 02-12-08
                    • 6099

                    #44
                    i have talked to many people in my world that have loved baseball all of their lives, to a man they all agree that bud did the right thing,
                    so again, only people that do understand the simple logic that you cannot all of a sudden start overturning calls without then looking at every game changing call in baseball history are just insane. this was a meaningless regular season game, there have been postseason games with worse calls that affected the game, so bud selig made the right call and everyone who agrees with him is right also, end of story
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                    • Mac4Lyfe
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-04-09
                      • 48541

                      #45
                      Originally posted by BadNina
                      it wouldn't have changed anything but a scorebook if he had had the balls to do it. He sucks. At least the ump admits he screwed up so big. Baseball sucks and so does Bud.

                      Hoopster, don't be onoxious. It isn't becoming.
                      I agree. Bud Selig is an absolute asshole who is as old and outdated as baseball itself. If it wasn't for steroids, baseball would have been buried. It's become a game for old farts anyway. Young folks don't care about the "history" of the game when said history was corrupt any damn way yet they try to make you think it's pure. Bullshit.

                      Originally posted by hoopster42
                      i have talked to many people in my world that have loved baseball all of their lives, to a man they all agree that bud did the right thing,
                      so again, only people that do understand the simple logic that you cannot all of a sudden start overturning calls without then looking at every game changing call in baseball history are just insane. this was a meaningless regular season game, there have been postseason games with worse calls that affected the game, so bud selig made the right call and everyone who agrees with him is right also, end of story
                      How could you not overturn a wrong call? Do you believe in doing the right thing? Well that call wasn't right. How could you sit back and watch an injustice. It's not about history, its about doing what's right and if that means changing an injustice then so be it. If it set's a precedent than so be it.

                      Every other sport uses instant replay. Why is baseball so slow an outdated? I've given up on baseball with Selig in charge. He's single handledly losing the young fanbase and he can care less. The numbers will catch up to his ass eventually and I can't wait to see it all crumble. Arrogant prick
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                      • Echofox
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 10-31-09
                        • 35

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Holtgetsback


                        I was thinking about something more along the lines of football challenge rules. Each team gets two replay challenges per game or something like that.
                        Hopefully this is something we see. Challenge rules are the way to solve this. 2 or 3 a team per team per game.
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                        • Intuitive_Edge
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-22-09
                          • 1644

                          #47
                          Originally posted by MB
                          Bud selig is a boob. It's a perfect game n.igga! Change the damn play. Totally spineless. Baseball is so slow to react to things
                          Originally posted by warriorfan707
                          Baseball doesn't suck. Selig's a fag though
                          MLB is way beyond the times and Selig is a sleezy scumbag.
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                          • warriorfan707
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-29-08
                            • 13698

                            #48
                            People just don't understand. If you change that call, where do you draw the line? IT WOULD CAUSE MAJOR PROBLEMS.
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                            • Swinging Johnson
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-12-09
                              • 7604

                              #49
                              Nina, for the love of God, just stop your bitching. You tell me how many people can name the 20 pitchers to pitch a perfect game? Virtually no one except stat geeks. This kid and this situation will be remembered far longer than Dallas Braden's gem earlier this year. And it will be remembered for all the right reasons. It's a great story because of the blown call not in spite of it. Selig had to rule the way he did because it would set a precedent that would be intolerable.

                              I'm sure your 5 days is almost up, the weekend is here, give a big smile and go shopping. Let it go and yes, the Mets do suck monkey balls.
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                              • miyakuza
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-03-10
                                • 1411

                                #50
                                Originally posted by MB
                                Bud selig is a boob. It's a perfect game n.igga! Change the damn play. Totally spineless. Baseball is so slow to react to things
                                You basically described Joyce.
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                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-04-09
                                  • 48541

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by warriorfan707
                                  People just don't understand. If you change that call, where do you draw the line? IT WOULD CAUSE MAJOR PROBLEMS.
                                  You draw the line on right and wrong. Since this was the last out of the game, it had no domino effect, so you reverse the call. If the call was made in the first inning then there's not much you can do to reverse it. There's a pretty clear line to draw and Selig blew it once again.

                                  You don't have to change every bad call and it would cause no major problems. Do what's right... Fuk baseball and fuk Selig.
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                                  • Stallion
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-21-10
                                    • 3617

                                    #52
                                    Instant Replay should be used in Baseball for certain Calls. Or give the Manager a certain number of "instant replay chances" per game. Selig should change it, but he is a goof.
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                                    • OmgUrMom
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                                      • 02-07-10
                                      • 8481

                                      #53
                                      interesting, not sure if i would overturn it or not, was it extremely obvious? i missed the play.....
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                                      • Vegas Gold
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-13-10
                                        • 1118

                                        #54
                                        All of you make good points. We have something different here ....
                                        The umpire openly has said that he made a terrible mistake ( He is a good umpire but after everyone saw the replay, he had to admit he was wrong because if he didn't; he would look like a complete idiot ). A change of the call would have not changed anything but rectify a blunder. One of you said that baseball was too fast for replay. Are you saying that Football and Basketball are slow? It hasn't hurt those sports. All I want to say is that the world knows he earned a perfect game. What would it hurt to make it right if nothing changed in the results? The pitcher showed so much class that night and the next day .... It wouldn't hurt anybody or any thing .... Make it right.
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                                        • warriorfan707
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-29-08
                                          • 13698

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                          You draw the line on right and wrong. Since this was the last out of the game, it had no domino effect, so you reverse the call. If the call was made in the first inning then there's not much you can do to reverse it. There's a pretty clear line to draw and Selig blew it once again.

                                          You don't have to change every bad call and it would cause no major problems. Do what's right... Fuk baseball and fuk Selig.
                                          Still missing the point. Lets say in game 1 of this years 2010 NL Division Series theres a horrible call to end the game.

                                          The managers mouth waters in anticipation because "Right is right" and "It was a wrong call" and "They changed Gallaraggas decision, so maybe they can do it again".

                                          No. You can't do it. You just can't. Selig did the right thing this time, someone in his position has to make this decision, its easy for the fans to sit here and say it was wrong.

                                          Changing the call would have been a horrible mistake that goes against all of baseball tradition.
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                                          • Panekkkk
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-12-09
                                            • 2430

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                                            Honestly i agree with bud..

                                            me and my dad talked about this for 30 mins today on the phone and he said to me that the ump did more for the pitcher then he did for himself.. creating a "tin cup "moment..

                                            no one remembers perfect games down to the detail unless something crazy happened.. like doing it on LSD..

                                            but this game will never be forgotten.. our kids will hear about how a game got "kicked" by an ump and how he cried about it for an entire day.. and how the rookie pitcher had enough class to forgive him and hand him the lineup card the next day.. and how the ump cried on national TV..

                                            it will probably go down as one of my favorite moments in MLB.. and hands down the best one so far of this season..

                                            I disagree with this. If you get a perfect game, especially the THIRD ONE in a season, that WILL be remembered. This whole debacle will be talked about for the next five years or so but then it will be promptly forgotten. Sure it will show up on stupid Sport Center highlights as one of the worst blown calls every now and again, but who the **** wants to be remembered on a blooper reel?
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                                            • canon714
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 04-06-10
                                              • 498

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by BeeMore
                                              Good move, he can't go back and change a call after a game is over. It would open a can of worms.
                                              I dissagree.. He has the power to fix it and he should. Chicken shit!
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                                              • tblues2005
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-30-06
                                                • 9235

                                                #58
                                                I wonder if Goodell of the NFL would have done the same thing here. It sure makes you wonder does it?
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                                                • kisado
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 09-09-08
                                                  • 519

                                                  #59
                                                  If it's any consolation to Armando, he pitched a Perfect Game that night. Personally, I don't need his name in the books to remember that fact. I hope he doesn't either.
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                    • 48541

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by warriorfan707
                                                    Still missing the point. Lets say in game 1 of this years 2010 NL Division Series theres a horrible call to end the game.

                                                    The managers mouth waters in anticipation because "Right is right" and "It was a wrong call" and "They changed Gallaraggas decision, so maybe they can do it again".

                                                    A bad call is a bad call no matter what sport or what context. In most cases you can't change calls during a game but if it's a call that ends a game and it's a clear mistake then I think it should be reversed. The only way to change in game is via instant replay. That's why baseball needs to get off their high horse and institute instant replay. This call fortunately wasn't costly in the big scheme of things but it's just a matter of time. Make the change you idiot Selig.



                                                    No. You can't do it. You just can't. Selig did the right thing this time, someone in his position has to make this decision, its easy for the fans to sit here and say it was wrong. Not only did the fans say it was wrong but even the umpire said he made the wrong call. Are you clueless? Even Selig said the call was wrong. How could he say it was wrong yet do nothing about it? He's an asshole, that's how.

                                                    Changing the call would have been a horrible mistake that goes against all of baseball tradition.
                                                    What does tradition have to do with anything? A bad call is a bad call. You want a tradition of bullshit errors? A tradition of mistakes and blunders? How would making the right call change tradition? If the umps made a mistake and allowed 5 outs instead of 3 in the bottom of the 9th and that team went on to win would you say to allow it? If it's clear and indisputable evidence and it ends the game then its the duty of the commissioner to change an obvious bad call. Your saying that he should purposely let wrong doing occur in his league???
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                                                    • ALWAYSONMYGRIND
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 04-16-10
                                                      • 40

                                                      #61
                                                      Redsox and mets ml
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                                                      • richyrich8478
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 05-08-10
                                                        • 296

                                                        #62
                                                        totally agree..... don't think they should have changed it... glad they didn't... feel bad for the pitcher but thats life bro...
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                                                        • warriorfan707
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-29-08
                                                          • 13698

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                          What does tradition have to do with anything? A bad call is a bad call. You want a tradition of bullshit errors? A tradition of mistakes and blunders? How would making the right call change tradition? If the umps made a mistake and allowed 5 outs instead of 3 in the bottom of the 9th and that team went on to win would you say to allow it? If it's clear and indisputable evidence and it ends the game then its the duty of the commissioner to change an obvious bad call. Your saying that he should purposely let wrong doing occur in his league???
                                                          I'm sorry to say that you don't get it and never will.
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                                                          • HUSALAH
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 02-25-10
                                                            • 203

                                                            #64
                                                            I think they should have gave the poor kid the call, it wouldnt have hurt anyone, but lifes a bitch and it sounds like Bud has made his final decision, tough rocks, hes a rookie he has his whole career ahead of him
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                                                            • Mac4Lyfe
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-04-09
                                                              • 48541

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by warriorfan707
                                                              I'm sorry to say that you don't get it and never will.
                                                              Oh, I get it... Baseball and Mr. Selig doesn't get it. That's why the game is in such bad shape as it is. Any wonder why baseball ratings are so horrible? Good luck attracting new blood.
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                                                              • HUSALAH
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 02-25-10
                                                                • 203

                                                                #66
                                                                this replay conversation will be repeated worldwide, how far can u take it though, is replay only good for outs at the bases, or will it also allow pitches to be changed because that seems ridiculous even though an out is an out so it really shouldnt make a difference, they should do it like the ncaa and the call should have to come from a non-biased official upstairs in front of a tv..
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                                                                • warriorfan707
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-29-08
                                                                  • 13698

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by HUSALAH
                                                                  I think they should have gave the poor kid the call, it wouldnt have hurt anyone, but lifes a bitch and it sounds like Bud has made his final decision, tough rocks, hes a rookie he has his whole career ahead of him
                                                                  Hes no rookie this is his 3rd year
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