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    Olympics: hi-jumpers agree to a Tie

    Props to these two. Good show:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjSCT97GSsA

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    Amazing respect and sportsmanship!!!
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    qatar still buying medals
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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Amazing respect and sportsmanship!!!
    Yes, very much so. Pretty cool:

    *The Qatar guy had mentally shut it down. Didn't really want to jump again.

    Very emotional for the Italian. He battled thru a big injury. Funny to see him bring his old cast with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    qatar still buying medals
    Haha. Yeah, ok. Did u watch how acrobatic that guy was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Haha. Yeah, ok. Did u watch how acrobatic that guy was?
    looks like he was actually born in qatar, shocking usually they just purchase athletes from other countries
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    That was awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Props to these two. Good show:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjSCT97GSsA
    Totally agree, I didn't even know ties for gold could be agreed on like that

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    Outstanding

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    lame and both are gay. glad you guys are supporting gay athletes now

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    How is this even allowed?

    Everyone claiming good sportsmanship. Why? Because they didn't want to have a jump off?

    Was there an injury? Did one jumper know he was finished?

    They should be required to play it out, can' t believe two Gold medals even exist for this event.

    This isn't poker, why the hell are they chopping the pot?

    Not sure I agree with all the snowflakes out there claiming there was some kind of sportsmanship, unless I'm missing something.

    Exactly where is the great sportsmanship? Where did one athlete sacrifiice or even do something kind for another athlete in the name of sportsmanship here?

    This is top level competition, of course they both "deserve" it, but there can be only one winner.


    It sure looks like these competitors, and the rest of world, seem to have forgot that.
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    Lympics!

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    fair and generous behavior or treatment of others, especially in a sports contest.
    Who was the jumper showing such great sportsmanship here?

    Who was the generous one, who was making sure things were fair?

    Who gets silver? Is there a bronze?

    Did they give out four medals or just withold a silver?

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    Agree with KVB, there has to be a winner. Pretty soon, the socialists and commies in this country are going to want the Super Bowl trophy to be shared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    Agree with KVB, there has to be a winner. Pretty soon, the socialists and commies in this country are going to want the Super Bowl trophy to be shared.
    What are they afraid of, being branded the loser?

    Don't they know they are high jumping in the Olympics? They are already winners.

    All they have to now is try to win, not aim for chopping the pot.

    I suppose I can get what the athletes were trying to do or say there in the moment, but I don't get why it's allowed and why the vast majority I've read praises them for doing this. Those two things I don't get.

    If the high jump ends in a tie they should just move to the next obvious metric, rooster sizes.

    Erect rooster sizes to be exact, you never know who's a grower and who's a shower.

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    i agree with kvb as well


    whats next....everyone gets a plastic medal for competing????
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    ...*The Qatar guy had mentally shut it down. Didn't really want to jump again...
    So he offered to chop the pot and the Italian agreed?

    That's not sportsmanship, that's some sneaky ass underhanded behavior to back out of the competition late without consequence.

    You make it sound like the Qatar guy doesn't deserve the Gold at all and teh situation makes it look like the Qatar athlete knew it.

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    Relax KVB - The high jump and pole vault are 2 field events I can think of where ties are actually pretty common. You have 2 players that reach a height but they can't go higher. The more they attempt, the worst it would go. So do you really want a jump off where a guy jumps 7'6 earlier but then can't jump 7'? These are not endurance events. Usually the tie breaker come in play when one person clears the height in less attempts but both these guys had the same amount of attempts, thus a tie.

    I don't think we're going to see runners decide not to race, so they can all get medals but who knows??? I'm never shocked by anything I see these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Relax KVB - The high jump and pole vault are 2 field events I can think of where ties are actually pretty common. You have 2 players that reach a height but they can't go higher. The more they attempt, the worst it would go. So do you really want a jump off where a guy jumps 7'6 earlier but then can't jump 7'? These are not endurance events. Usually the tie breaker come in play when one person clears the height in less attempts but both these guys had the same amount of attempts, thus a tie.

    I don't think we're going to see runners decide not to race, so they can all get medals but who knows??? I'm never shocked by anything I see these days.
    Did they both try & fail at a higher bar???

    I'm guessing they did. That's the only way you can have a tie. It wasn't explained or I missed it.

    If so, I'm good with it. If neither tried a higher bar then I'm in the What in the Fvvk camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Relax KVB - The high jump and pole vault are 2 field events I can think of where ties are actually pretty common. You have 2 players that reach a height but they can't go higher. The more they attempt, the worst it would go. So do you really want a jump off where a guy jumps 7'6 earlier but then can't jump 7'? These are not endurance events. Usually the tie breaker come in play when one person clears the height in less attempts but both these guys had the same amount of attempts, thus a tie.

    I don't think we're going to see runners decide not to race, so they can all get medals but who knows??? I'm never shocked by anything I see these days.


    They have a jump off Mac, and yes endurance matters.

    There are rules to avoid a tie, stop trying to skirt them for the sake of what you "want to see" because you fear some athlete can't jump 7'6" twice.

    It's amazing that there are rules that allow them to chop the pot, to be honest.

    There is no room for a tie here, there must be a winner.

    You need to accept that and not perpetuate this participation mentality that's being erroneously labeled as sportsmanship.

    Remember, this was not a tie, this was one athlete trying to chop the pot and the other agreeing.

    That's not a tie, that's quitting before the competition is resolved.
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    Seem like I've seen and read a million times over how this was great sportsmanship but not once has anyone said why.

    Perhaps it's because the term "sportsmanship" is being grossly misused here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post


    They have a jump off Mac, and yes endurance matters.

    There are rules to avoid a tie, stop trying to skirt them for the sake of what you "want to see" because you fear some athlete can't jump 7'6" twice.

    It's amazing that there are rules that allow them to chop the pot, to be honest.

    There is no room for a tie here, there must be a winner.

    You need to accept that and not perpetuate this participation mentality that's being erroneously labeled as sportsmanship.

    Remember, this was not a tie, this was one athlete trying to chop the pot and the other agreeing.

    That's not a tie, that's quitting before the competition is resolved.
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    didnt another guy have the same height but had more failed attempts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    bingodidnt another guy have the same height but had more failed attempts?
    I’m pretty sure they both failed the same amount of attempts. I was watching it earlier because I was rooting for the US kid but he was out early, so I wasn’t really paying a lot of attention but I did see both of them miss attempts, then they asked the Qatar jumper is he wanted to continue and he looked like he was going to keep jumping but then they said that he didn’t have to and could win the gold, then they said they both would get gold. They kinda put it in his hands to get the tie, which was weird to me. They should have consulted both of them I thought.

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    Hmmm, I just saw this. It says they convinced the officials to give them both golds. Maybe they planned it? Didn’t seem like it to me. I saw the officials talking to him and it looked like they were telling him that he didn’t have to jump anymore???

    ———————————————-

    How’s this for friendly competition?
    Olympic high jumpers — and best friends — Mutaz Essa Barshim and Gianmarco Tamberi convinced Games officials to let them share gold on Sunday instead of jumping to decide the winner.
    Both Barshim, 30, and Tamberi, 29, had cleared jumps of 2.37 meters, then failed to clear the 2.39 meter hurdle three times each. But Barshim resisted when an Olympic officials offered him to “jump-off” against his Italian competitor.
    “Can we have two golds?” the Qatari asked the official — who nodded approvingly, causing the self-described “best friends” to clasp hands and whoop for joy.
    “I look at him, he looks at me, and we know it,” Barshim said afterward.
    “We just look at each other and we know, that is it, it is done. There is no need.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Hmmm, I just saw this. It says they convinced the officials to give them both golds. Maybe they planned it? Didn’t seem like it to me. I saw the officials talking to him and it looked like they were telling him that he didn’t have to jump anymore???

    ———————————————-

    How’s this for friendly competition?
    Olympic high jumpers — and best friends — Mutaz Essa Barshim and Gianmarco Tamberi convinced Games officials to let them share gold on Sunday instead of jumping to decide the winner.
    Both Barshim, 30, and Tamberi, 29, had cleared jumps of 2.37 meters, then failed to clear the 2.39 meter hurdle three times each. But Barshim resisted when an Olympic officials offered him to “jump-off” against his Italian competitor.
    “Can we have two golds?” the Qatari asked the official — who nodded approvingly, causing the self-described “best friends” to clasp hands and whoop for joy.
    “I look at him, he looks at me, and we know it,” Barshim said afterward.
    “We just look at each other and we know, that is it, it is done. There is no need.”
    OK, so we all all good.

    It was indeed a tie. Meaning both jumpers cleared the same height and both failed at a higher bar. Then the decision to share the gold was proper.

    In this crazy woke world you never know.
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    Hmmm, I could have sworn their was a tie in the long jump a few years back but I just read the last tie in summer Olympics was like in 1912? It seems to happen a lot in the Winter Olympics though.


    However, while it may seem counterintuitive to the spirit of an athletic competition that awards medals for first, second and third place, ties actually do occur at the Olympics.
    Like Monday in the 2-man bobsled, when after four runs Canada and Germany both posted combined times of 3:16.86. It’s the tenth Winter Olympics tie since the 1998 Nagano Games.
    So what happens in the case of a tie? Who gets gold, silver, bronze?
    If a pair of athletes or two teams tie for first-place, they each receive a gold medal, no one is awarded silver and the bronze is awarded to the runner-up. This was the case during the women’s downhill final at Sochi in 2014 when Slovenia’s Tina Maze and Switzerland’s Dominique Gisin both crossed the finish line with a time of 1:41.57. They were both awarded gold medals and the runner-up, Switzerland’s Lara Gut, took home bronze with her time of 1:41.67.
    Monday, Canada and Germany took home gold, while Latvia grabbed the bronze.

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    Snowflake World.
    In four years all competitors will agree not to compete and ALL will get a gold.
    Except those that drop out because they are emotionally unable to cope. They will be praised for their awesome give up effort though.
    No feelings get hurt and every body is happy!
    What is happening to this world????

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    We should go back to ties. Sometimes there is no winner. If you have to play overtime, you did not win. Win it like a man or go home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Hmmm, I just saw this. It says they convinced the officials to give them both golds. Maybe they planned it? Didn’t seem like it to me. I saw the officials talking to him and it looked like they were telling him that he didn’t have to jump anymore???

    ———————————————-

    How’s this for friendly competition?
    Olympic high jumpers — and best friends — Mutaz Essa Barshim and Gianmarco Tamberi convinced Games officials to let them share gold on Sunday instead of jumping to decide the winner.
    Both Barshim, 30, and Tamberi, 29, had cleared jumps of 2.37 meters, then failed to clear the 2.39 meter hurdle three times each. But Barshim resisted when an Olympic officials offered him to “jump-off” against his Italian competitor.
    “Can we have two golds?” the Qatari asked the official — who nodded approvingly, causing the self-described “best friends” to clasp hands and whoop for joy.
    “I look at him, he looks at me, and we know it,” Barshim said afterward.
    “We just look at each other and we know, that is it, it is done. There is no need.”
    Can't believe they let this fly.

    Also, maybe they were tied in many's eyes when they decided to chop, but this was not a tie.

    They did not play out even one jump off.

    They quit without finishing the event. This is the Olymipics, man, even if ties are in the rule books, the Olympics need a winner.

    Shady that these best friends ended up at this spot, where they each failed 3 times and asked to chop. Shady from a betting perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Hmmm, I could have sworn their was a tie in the long jump a few years back but I just read the last tie in summer Olympics was like in 1912? It seems to happen a lot in the Winter Olympics though.


    However, while it may seem counterintuitive to the spirit of an athletic competition that awards medals for first, second and third place, ties actually do occur at the Olympics.
    Like Monday in the 2-man bobsled, when after four runs Canada and Germany both posted combined times of 3:16.86. It’s the tenth Winter Olympics tie since the 1998 Nagano Games.
    So what happens in the case of a tie? Who gets gold, silver, bronze?
    If a pair of athletes or two teams tie for first-place, they each receive a gold medal, no one is awarded silver and the bronze is awarded to the runner-up. This was the case during the women’s downhill final at Sochi in 2014 when Slovenia’s Tina Maze and Switzerland’s Dominique Gisin both crossed the finish line with a time of 1:41.57. They were both awarded gold medals and the runner-up, Switzerland’s Lara Gut, took home bronze with her time of 1:41.67.
    Monday, Canada and Germany took home gold, while Latvia grabbed the bronze.
    But this wasn't really a tie.

    They declined a jump off and asked to end the event when they were tied. They created the "tie" result. It didn't just happen.

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    KVB - do you really care? Did you really want them to keep attempting higher bars when they couldn't reach the bar that was set? Or should they keep lowering the bars until they can crawl over it? I stopped watching once USA was out. Will you really remember either of these guys a few years from now, next week. Hell, I don't remember their names now and I listed it a few times in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    But this wasn't really a tie.They declined a jump off and asked to end the event when they were tied. They created the "tie" result. It didn't just happen.
    They both attempted a height 3 times. Neither could clear the jump. They cleared the lower height on their first attempts. What do you want them to do? Jump off at that lower height again? Maybe you think the 3rd place finisher should get more chances too? How about just let all the entrants keep jumping? Would you be happy if they just fought for the gold MMA style??

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    But this wasn't really a tie.

    They declined a jump off and asked to end the event when they were tied. They created the "tie" result. It didn't just happen.

    Kman the scenario for a jump off would be they would have to start lowering the bar. Check it out;

    So they both clear 7'6" now what? They both fail at 7'7" so take it back down to 7'6"? They both clear and then what? Take it to 7'5"?

    It's weird, yes. But if they both cleared 7'6" and neither could get over 7'7" then it is truly a tie. Anything else would be rock, paper, scissor-ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBacon View Post
    Kman the scenario for a jump off would be they would have to start lowering the bar. Check it out;

    So they both clear 7'6" now what? They both fail at 7'7" so take it back down to 7'6"? They both clear and then what? Take it to 7'5"?

    It's weird, yes. But if they both cleared 7'6" and neither could get over 7'7" then it is truly a tie. Anything else would be rock, paper, scissor-ish.
    Do it again.

    Just like Golf.

    You get a winner. If you want to have a potential tie result available, fine, but calling to end it when the judge say you can jump off in the Olympics is a little shady. At least have some sort of attempt to settle the tie.

    The athletes shouldn't be deciding a tie without completing the event.
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