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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_Guest_Pro View Post
    The government wont be able to pass another stimulus bill to afford that. They didn't expect this many millions of people to go on unemployment
    In an election year, they will find the way. The national debt is coming up on $25 trillion... what's another $750 billion?

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    People are clueless

    This is not balanced.

    It’s just wrong for the feds to give 600 a week

    Still no Stimulus for me or disaster loan or employees paychecks nada zero not a single dollar.

    Trump is not handling this right.

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    Govt just handing free cash out everywhere without any thought or plan

    Everyone getting rich

    Our poor children will be paying dearly for this mess

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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    Govt just handing free cash out everywhere without any thought or plan

    Everyone getting rich

    Our poor children will be paying dearly for this mess
    I’m not getting squat

    Damn illegals non citizens getting more than me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    I’m not getting squat

    Damn illegals non citizens getting more than me!
    Let me rephrase, most people getting rich

    i got my stimulus but no other benefits. I really shouldn’t get shIt though, neither should most

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    People are clueless

    This is not balanced.

    It’s just wrong for the feds to give 600 a week

    Still no Stimulus for me or disaster loan or employees paychecks nada zero not a single dollar.

    Trump is not handling this right.
    Mike you will still vote for Trump so it doesn't matter.

    Plus I'm sure you are fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    People are clueless

    This is not balanced.

    It’s just wrong for the feds to give 600 a week

    Still no Stimulus for me or disaster loan or employees paychecks nada zero not a single dollar.

    Trump is not handling this right.
    Business should do whatever will maximize profits, Trump should do whatever will maximize votes. The people who supported Trump in 2016 are going to support him again this year entirely because he is giving away all this tax payer money. Trump is handling it exactly right.

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    there was no reason for stimulus and the extra 600 per week. either one or the other. if anything do more stimulus and cancel the 600 per week. the value of a job has been brought down dramatically.

    plus the 600 is not tiered like unemployment. min wage person gets 600. i get 600. we should be tiered like the state unemployment rate based on our earnings.

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    Everyone is aware that Trump wasn't the magical person who wrote the whole stimulus bill(s)?
    The House and Senate had to go back n forth(as with any bill) to compromise on something that Trump would sign.
    Trump didn't just snap his finger and say give every person that files for unemployment $600 a week till July.
    For all of the lower wage earners that are getting "rich" in the short term, the huge corporations and businesses have reaped way better "rich" windfalls over the past 3+ years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvillekid View Post
    Everyone is aware that Trump wasn't the magical person who wrote the whole stimulus bill(s)?
    No one has ever thought giving away trillions in tax payer money is magic, it's socialism. And Trump was the one who signed it into law in order to keep his support from the socialists.

    If Trump did not sign it, do you really think 20 Republican senators would have gone against our president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    No one has ever thought giving away trillions in tax payer money is magic, it's socialism. And Trump was the one who signed it into law in order to keep his support from the socialists.

    If Trump did not sign it, do you really think 20 Republican senators would have gone against our president?
    define "your" version of "socialism."

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    Average person always has abused unemployment

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Average person always has abused unemployment
    Not sure how that is possible. People can only apply if they've lost their job for a qualifying reason. And the less you average in earnings per quarter, will lower one's overall 4 quarter average to base the amount for an unemployment check. If one were to constantly be on and off unemployment, it would keep lowering their average quarterly earnings and every time they filed a claim, and if approved, their check would get lower and lower. Any unemployment earnings aren't calculated towards overall earnings in quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvillekid View Post
    define "your" version of "socialism."
    Means of production is owned and controlled by the state.

    For Trump to take trillions from tax payers and give government hand-puts to businesses and to pay people to not work is about the most perfect example of that in America in our lifetimes. As much as we don't like this type of socialism that Trump is bringing to America, we should not blame him, because he is doing what it takes to get his supporters to reelect him.

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    Unemployment agencies actually are telling people to not go to work. If you notice now when you file each week you have to mark not looking for work. They don’t want you risking others. What a penetrating country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    Means of production is owned and controlled by the state.

    For Trump to take trillions from tax payers and give government hand-puts to businesses and to pay people to not work is about the most perfect example of that in America in our lifetimes. As much as we don't like this type of socialism that Trump is bringing to America, we should not blame him, because he is doing what it takes to get his supporters to reelect him.
    "Means of production is owned and controlled by the state" This country is no where close to this scenario.

    And how can Trump take trillions from taxpayers? We don't pay hardly any taxes anymore, remember; We all supposed to be rich with our tax cuts and jobs act. We're all supposed to be living it up and spending all this excess money that didn't go towards unconstitutional taxation on hard earned money.
    Roughly 8%(and this was in 2019) of yearly Federal budget goes towards paying interest on the National debt. That is just to pay interest due. Not even putting a dent in the overall National Debt. Some other funding's from the yearly budget that add up together to roughly 8%, are Transportation/Infrastructure, Science/Medical research, Education, Non-military International Aid, and other miscellaneous smaller programs. All of those equal roughly 8%, yet no one seems to have a problem with 8%(and growing) of the budget going to interest alone.

    Meaning: It's all made up. We live in a fiat currency world. There is no tangible, physical objects of value behind our currency, or anyone's. There is no gold, or Beanie Babies, or Garbage Pail Kid trading cards, to back up our currency.
    It's all a farce. A charade.

    No one is responsible for the "debt", because it will never get paid. Debt holders will continue to reap profits from yearly tax revenues(regardless of how low they become from lower and lower taxes) for interest on the hypothetical "debt."

    The ultra rich will continue to stay and grow more and more wealthy. While kids in 3rd world countries are paid to create memes and FB pages that are pro or con, for Republicans or Democrats, and blast out distorted truths and silly memes. So they are shared around social media circles to keep working class fighting about the have's and the have not's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ki dice View Post
    Unemployment agencies actually are telling people to not go to work. If you notice now when you file each week you have to mark not looking for work. They don’t want you risking others. What a penetrating country.
    this unemployment madness is leading to the scum of the earth trying to get any money they can from any people's information they steal or buy off the dark web or from hacks into databases like the equifax disaster

    i use credit monitoring/id theft/protection services and they caught someone trying to file for unemployment benefits with name/address/etc and they were somehow successful at signing up for it (probably due to the covid madness leading to so many applying and the agencies having trouble so they simplified stuff and made it easier to get granted UI)

    i told my employer the next day in case the paperwork still made it through the mail to their building even after i had contacted the proper people and told them it was fraud and the guys who did this ended with NOTHING but a police report filed in their jurisdiction...

    that was a fun day... but like i said i'm protected so these scum have zero chance of getting ************/accounts/store cards/debit cards/loans/school loans/etc setup with my stolen info

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    you're absolutely correct. this is what a Bernie Sanders America would look like to a degree.

    In theory, possibly yes...but since Mitch McConnell would NEVER allow it
    then no, in effect it would never actually occur in a Bernie Sanders America.

    And yet, it *IS* occuring under Trump

    I am NOT condemning Trump for implimenting "Democratic-Socialist" fundamentals,
    -- as they are needed (now that he stood by while state and cities locked down)

    It's just interesting that here we are...
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