1. 01-29-20 09:18 PM #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    Michael Jordan

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4sees View Post
    And yet, somehow those stars only did what they did because of the Wades, Worthys, McHales, Pippens, Rodmans, etc., who get no mention.
    Bird said DJ was the greatest teammate he ever played with.
    Now that’s a compliment!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WvGambler View Post
    My old man is a Bird guy. Talks about him and Roberto Clemente like they’re holy entities.

    I wasn’t old enough to watch him play, but I will say he had that “Mamba mentality” before Kobe was alive. From everything I’ve heard/read, Larry Bird was as competitive as anyone on earth.
    I dated a family member of Larold (as I call him) to talk shit to him calling him old

    He’s the most competitive mf I’ve ever met, everything was $100 minimum, darts, drinking, horseshoes whatever the fukk you can imagine

    Overall great guy, I think there was enough Budweiser at the ranch for all of Indiana
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    Larry Bird was the most over rated shooter, but Under rated Rebounder that I know of.

    prob top 5 all round players especially given his level of athleticism compared to others
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    11 rings... You people forget...

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    Moses Malone most under rated all round player that people forgot about

    guy had 3 fukin MVPs

    top 3 all time in rebounds and #9 all time in point just ahead of fuking Shaquille o'neal in less years.
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    Let’s all chip in and get big bear a one way ticket to China and then one helicopter ride when there....lets cover all bases
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    11 rings... You people forget...


    but he played in an ERA with 8 teams


    do you think it was harder or easier to have a dynasty with a few hall of famers on one team before free agency back then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    but he played in an ERA with 8 teams


    do you think it was harder or easier to have a dynasty with a few hall of famers on one team before free agency back then?
    And with all short slow white people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    but he played in an ERA with 8 teams


    do you think it was harder or easier to have a dynasty with a few hall of famers on one team before free agency back then?
    legit Russell's rookie season he joined a team with 5 hall of famers already. Cousy, Heinsohn, Sharmen, Ramsey, Andy Phillip.

    the following season another hall of famer joined the team in Sam Jones, the year after that another hall of famer in KC Jones joined. they had 7 fukin hall of famers on one damn team. imagine that today

    So do we really give credit to just 1 guy in a situation like that?

    yes: his name is Red Aurbach
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    Wilt was the most dominate player in the league for years also was Shaq.. They owned the paint.. Kareem wasn't to shabby either..

    Teams FEARED these big men and they get no LOVE.. If I had a young Kobe or Jordan to start out my team or a Shaq, Kareem or Wilt in their respective times I'd build my team around those big men..

    If I were taking a pure shooter today to build my team around I'd take Step Curry probably over Kobe and Jordan..

    It's a tough call with all the times and rule changes with hand checking and what not and number of teams, etc...

    The most dominate players in their times were Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Jordan, Magic, and probably Kobe.. Larry legend was tough too..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Wilt was the most dominate player in the league for years also was Shaq.. They owned the paint.. Kareem wasn't to shabby either..

    Teams FEARED these big men and they get no LOVE.. If I had a young Kobe or Jordan to start out my team or a Shaq, Kareem or Wilt in their respective times I'd build my team around those big men..

    If I were taking a pure shooter today to build my team around I'd take Step Curry probably over Kobe and Jordan..

    It's a tough call with all the times and rule changes with hand checking and what not and number of teams, etc...

    The most dominate players in their times were Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Jordan, Magic, and probably Kobe.. Larry legend was tough too..
    Wilt played with all short white guys....his domination was irrelevant
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    The most dominate players in their times were Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Jordan, Magic, and probably Kobe.. Larry legend was tough too..

    see you forgot Moses Malone the only other player not on that list that has 3 MVPs...... maybe Dr. J too. (Kobe only 2)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    Wilt played with all short white guys....his domination was irrelevant
    White guys can’t jump but they can make their free throws.
    Just ask Rick Barry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    Let’s all chip in and get big bear a one way ticket to China and then one helicopter ride when there....lets cover all bases
    I’m in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    Wilt played with all short white guys....his domination was irrelevant
    not totally true
    Wes Unseld, Nate Thurmond, Bill Russell, Elvin Hayes, Willis Reed, Gus Johnson, Paul Silas and that's just looking at tall black guys at the top 15 of the rebounding list one year from the 60's

    wilt played in the 60's and 70's not the 40's and 50's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    see you forgot Moses Malone the only other player not on that list that has 3 MVPs...... maybe Dr. J too. (Kobe only 2)
    Steve Nash won back to back MVP’s and he’s also the greatest free throw shooter of all time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    Wilt played with all short white guys....his domination was irrelevant
    Why ya gotta go racial on us Booya ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Steve Nash won back to back MVP’s and he’s also the greatest free throw shooter of all time.
    true but Moses Malone won 2 straight and then one another one two years before that. And is 2nd all time in free throws MADE with about 6,000 more made free throws than Nash

    6 fuking thousand
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    you idiots saying lebron are living in the now....hes a crying baby

    wouldnt last in the 80s or 90s
    Um, what? In the 80s people wouldn't have believed Lebron was an actual human, his physique would make many NBA pros look like children. You think he wouldn't last in an era of greater physicality? Are you on crack? He would have ended men's careers

    What a hot garbage take
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    White guys can’t jump but they can make their free throws.
    Just ask Rick Barry.
    Son Brent had hops Stevie.. Should get the white man hops break thru award in the NBA

    Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-29-20 at 10:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blankoblanco View Post
    Um, what? In the 80s people wouldn't have believed Lebron was an actual human, his physique would make many NBA pros look like children. You think he wouldn't last in an era of greater physicality? Are you on crack? He would have ended men's careers

    What a hot garbage take
    good point

    they were rail thin and no one lifted back in the day.

    Kareem fukin weighed 225 at 7'2




    people talk about Barkley being big ( I guess he was back then), but early on he really was below avg sized compared to today's players. its weird when people compare him to zion to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Son Brent had hops Stevie.. Should get the white man hops break thru award in the NBA

    rex chapman was better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    rex chapman was better
    That's a blast from the past.. Right on Chi..
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    Is there hope Chi with the future in the dashes? Still no chance but a glimpse of hope running with these white boys from past memories..

    Run Forrest run!!! ..

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    There is a chosen one ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Is there hope Chi with the future in the dashes? Still no chance but a glimpse of hope running with these white boys from past memories..

    Run Forrest run!!! ..

    well there is the young kid that just set a high school 100 meters record a year ago. I think his freshmen track season is coming up. He'll maybe make a relay team for the olympics and have a decent shot at 2024


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Lebron James or Kobe Bryant


    who is the best basketball player of all time?





    you mean 2nd best
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    oscar robertson is best ever. Just ask jabbar.
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    LeBron is the GOAT and it's not close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chico2663 View Post
    oscar robertson is best ever. Just ask jabbar.
    Oscar another one for sure.. Tim Duncan a sleeper as well..
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    Oscar Robertson benefitted from being in the super stat inflated run and gun era

    the year he averaged a triple double the league averaged 109 shots per game per team. last year it was 89 shots per game per team.


    that's an almost 20% increase in shots meaning there will be availabilty for rebounds, points, assists for the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Oscar Robertson benefitted from being in the super stat inflated run and gun era

    the year he averaged a triple double the league averaged 109 shots per game per team. last year it was 89 shots per game per team.


    that's an almost 20% increase in shots meaning there will be availabilty for rebounds, points, assists for the players.

    one thing you aren't taking into ... is league was less watered down. They used to beat the shit out of peole going down the middle. Went to college with ron harper at miami university
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