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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Any long time gambler have been though this
    Yea true i have been through this a lot. The confusing thing is at times i can pull away and stop and others for no reason whatsoever i go in and lose a big amount i won. The hard thing to cope with is when i lose the bigger amounts. Like, i can go in there and bet less and work it up some . But once i am high enough to switch over to just sportsbetting i still go in there for no reason.

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    You are not alone bud- plenty times where I won a bunch and still keep betting till I lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutchut12 View Post
    Yup and its a never ending cycle,very rare anybody escapes it.
    Yes buit i need to find a way clutch . I need to find a way to get away from casinos. I will try disabling them . If i cannot find a way this will never end i will keep hurting myself emotionally over and over. I want to keep sportsbetting that is my strength. But it is all pointless if i cant stay out of the casino. I am like i said shocked and happy i won that $46500. I am trying to focus on that to keep from totally going down the hole of depression. About a week and a half ago i lost $7000 . Just there is $25000 + . The hardest thing now is i had a huge win last night on the Over in the hockey game watched the whole thing for nothing.

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    Interesting. The 3 questions to see if you have a problem lets see


    • Do you use more of the substance or engage in the behavior more often than in the past? - No about the same it was worse 2 years ago actually
    • Do you have withdrawal symptoms when you don’t have the substance or engage in the behavior?
    • Not really. Sometimes i am not even thinking about it but end up going on anyways . At times like last night i had no intentions of going back in there . I got where i wanted to be. Then ended up going in anyway.
    • Have you ever lied to anyone about your use of the substance or extent of your behavior?-No my wife and family i have never hidden what the casino has done to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    You are not alone bud- plenty times where I won a bunch and still keep betting till I lost
    Yea that is why i come in here because others can relate and have and are going through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrickJames View Post
    Email them and ask for it.

    They have it.
    Just sent an e-mail

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    ask customer service disable casino use ur skills make money betting sports dont give it back on something u cant beat
    ' That is what i will try to disable everything i can .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    The reason you havent stopped is because youve had success at it before.
    Winning can add more fuel to a problem than losing

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    I am just devastated right now. So emotionally drained from doing the same thing over and over and over. Once again i lost all my big winnings in the casino . This time at Sportbet $18600 .

    I don't know why i keep going in there i know it is rigged and when the thing starts going on its rigged bs run i know what it is doing but instead of stopping i get more mad and try getting it back. I won some big games sports betting too . I was planning to cash out at $15000 but then i went in casino and actually won some. Not like i was getting great hands as always a lot of luck.

    Then i go in again this morning and once again i started betting low and next thing you know $2500 a hand trying to get it back. I lost like every hand maybe won 2 in the entire stretch .

    I think i will stop for awhile this really emotionally drained me after getting it up there again. The good thing is at least this was free $$ the 8th deposit free at Sportbet. I get the next one too free but at this point i am so drained i think i need to just step away a couple weeks.

    I did lucking cash out $46500 so far this year . Thank god i got that and did not blow that . But Jesus the money i lost that i could have cashed out. I lost $18600 now , $13000 , $7000 , $4500,$4500 , $3000 and god knows how many others i cannot even think of. And that is just THIS year .

    I actually tried to get help before to try and see if someone can help me stay out of an obviously rigged casino. I guess i am looking for a way to keep out once i build it up from sportsbetting. They always tell me i am fine because i have not lost my home or my car to gambling. I swear that makes no sense but that is what they told me.

    I know we talked in the forum before about this others that have the same problem i do. WHY - Why do we go in a casino that we know is rigged and will just take all our money . Why can't we stop even though we know what is happening in front of us. Because i cannot give myself a reason. Is it the rush? But i know it is rigged so what is the point. Is it because i just want to feel i win something significant in there just once ? I mean -if you lose insane amounts all the time like this in seconds shouldn't you be able to win once in awhile . But that never happens either. I have won smaller amounts but never have i won 20,000 ,$18600,$9000 etc like i have lost. I figure maybe if i can figure out why i keep going in there i can put a lasso around it and keep myself out.

    But for now i am stopping a couple weeks i am too drained after this it has been one too many times this happened to me and i am just spent .
    Quit using weasel words like "try" & "thinking about." Just fukkin' do it. As others said, self exclude from the casino. If the book doesn't allow that, drop the book. If you can't do that, charge back to that book...make them ban you. It sounds like you have a serious problem. Your emotions are involved and you are on the precipice of problem gambling, if you aren't already there. The only reason you haven't accepted that you have a problem, is because you have been winning. Wait until you start depositing 4 and 5 figures into the casino to win back that money. You are fortunate that you've only lost "winnings."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post
    First thing to do is stop blaming
    the casino for your problems.

    The problem is not the online casino
    The problem is YOU.

    You have no control over your actions
    so as you said take a few weeks off.

    Look in the mirror tell yourself this will
    not happen again in the future and
    at the same time forget the past, even
    though you own it.

    Th casino is doing what it was created
    to do.. seperate you from your money
    now it’s time for you to do what you
    were meant to do and that is be smart
    and strong enough to stay away from
    that online Heroin.

    Bol with your battle.. I hope you
    break it!
    spot on, Al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    Quit using weasel words like "try" & "thinking about." Just fukkin' do it. As others said, self exclude from the casino. If the book doesn't allow that, drop the book. If you can't do that, charge back to that book...make them ban you. It sounds like you have a serious problem. Your emotions are involved and you are on the precipice of problem gambling, if you aren't already there. The only reason you haven't accepted that you have a problem, is because you have been winning. Wait until you start depositing 4 and 5 figures into the casino to win back that money. You are fortunate that you've only lost "winnings."
    Other then one time i have never deposited just for the casino. Tropicana i did but that was only a casino not sportsbetting. I only tried that because i thought it may be fair since it was sanctioned by NJ . I actually had fair hands at first winning $4000 and then $3500 . Then after that 2nd cash out it was just like any other online casino. And i did just what you said depositing over and over $350 -$900 thinking one of these times i have to get a roll and at least win a few $1000 . But i lost like 90% of the hands losing like $16000 total of my own money in 1 day. i have never gone back in there since.That was the most i ever did in a casino depositing just for the casino. The other places like GTbets, Justbet,etc i go in to use the sports betting but end up going in the casino.

    You know , strangely - Tropicana is still there but after that i have never went back in or wanted to and they always send me stuff for bonuses. But the sportsbooks i have.

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    You know that last post got me thinking a little bit more actually brings up a good question maybe something here can answer why i lose control .

    So, Tropicana a casino based in NJ online for NJ residents which i am, i played at first and won like $7000 . Then i lost the $16000 which was the most of my own money i ever lost normally i start low build it up in Sportsbook then lose it in casino. Other then that one day when i was in there - I have NEVER gone back nor wanted to to try to get even or win back my cash. Not once. Up until today it has not even been a second though.

    So how am i able to keep clear of this (Over a year and a half now) not going back once but keep going into the others. Maybe when i go into the sportsbooks it is for sportsbetting and i just get tempted seeing it and go in? idk But it does make me wonder. And i see the commercials all the time for Betfair in NJ and never get tempted to ry any of them anymore.

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    Sorry to hear man. I lost 50k on credit and had to go bankrupt and live with my mom. While paying back loans. It's vicious. Best thing to do it have any casino permanently disabled and have someone bavy sit your money until you can figure it out. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    Sorry to hear man. I lost 50k on credit and had to go bankrupt and live with my mom. While paying back loans. It's vicious. Best thing to do it have any casino permanently disabled and have someone bavy sit your money until you can figure it out. Good luck.
    I am sorry to hear this . But this is why i come on here because i know i am not alone and have support. Are you back in good standing now? I hope so or at least almost there.

    It is funny because when it comes to Sbetting i am really pretty good. My dad even said once (He has since passed but i will never forget this) actually unlike my wife and others who did not like me betting actually told me"You seem to have a gift for picking winners you can actually make a living at it) This was after seeing me hit every baseball game at the Avi that day. So i know although i do not win all the games when i get in a groove i can win some serious cash.

    But the casinos are what kills me. If i can maybe ban them all or find a way to make me not want to even look at them (Like Tropicana ) i will be Ok.

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    What do you do for a living

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    You must just be a competitive person by nature, so when you lose even one lousy buck in the casino you get mad and feel the need to double,triple, etc etc, until you win that money back. Problem is online casinos are rigged and if you continue to do that you will lose your ass.

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    The saddest part of this whole story is you act this impulsive basically dry sober. It is pure addiction for casino action that is killing your Psychological well being. The good news is your still showing a nice chunk profit for the year which in your case is ironically rare. Just STOP 100% in the online casino ! You said it yourself & have fully acknowledged it’s a “chance” proposition. There is no edge playing online. Wake the -- up bruh ! It’s a new day ......
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    Well the good news is that you at least identify that you have a problem so at least there is hope for you. Next step is to just give it up. Shouldn't be that hard after seeing time and time again your dumping away money that you could have cashed out.

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    Gross , I’d be covered in vomit if I lost a single dollar in online casino

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzaii View Post
    You must just be a competitive person by nature, so when you lose even one lousy buck in the casino you get mad and feel the need to double,triple, etc etc, until you win that money back. Problem is online casinos are rigged and if you continue to do that you will lose your ass.
    OMG yes this does hit home .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fidel_CashFlow View Post
    Gross , I’d be covered in vomit if I lost a single dollar in online casino
    I lost 18600 so that is a lot of vomit i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzaii View Post
    Well the good news is that you at least identify that you have a problem so at least there is hope for you. Next step is to just give it up. Shouldn't be that hard after seeing time and time again your dumping away money that you could have cashed out.
    That is the thing i do see it have for a long time can stay out at times then for no reason go back in .

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    I’ve never understood anyone who puts a dollar in online casinos. I’ve made my fair share of tilted gambling mistakes in table games at real casinos, or losing a game on a buzzer beater and mad betting some game at 11pm butthole university vs Dickhead state because it’s the only thing on. But man, online casinos are completely rigged.

    Question: you seem like you’re addicted to table games, but don’t speak of playing them while building your roll. For example what is happening during the periods of building your roll up 350 to 16k from sports bets? You’re not playing at all? Have more self control on amounts etc? What you’re doing during these periods may be very important

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    The saddest part of this whole story is you act this impulsive basically dry sober. It is pure addiction for casino action that is killing your Psychological well being. The good news is your still showing a nice chunk profit for the year which in your case is ironically rare. Just STOP 100% in the online casino ! You said it yourself & have fully acknowledged it’s a “chance” proposition. There is no edge playing online. Wake the -- up bruh ! It’s a new day ......
    That is the ONLY thing or at least the biggest thing that so far this year i am way way up winning that $46500 . Bad thing is i have blew $48000 in the casino (At least )so far this year. And i did not lose any of my own money in the $18600 it was 8th deposit free.

    Betus called me wanting me to deposit its one of the books i play at so as i had the guy on i told him ban the casino.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    What do you do for a living
    I am a male prostitute. No just kidding i gave that up last week.

    I actually for the last 15+ years deal with Medicare insurance . Am purely commission but get a nice residual income. Make a 6 figure income every year which helps moments like this . I am a broker so i deal with many companies. If you saw my other posts i am very good at it at times placed top in the nation. It has earned me trips all expenses paid (Paris,Barbados, Aruba,Dominican Republic where i did not go just got the cash )and coming up this summer the Caribbean Cruise on the Equinox which will be our first cruise . So it has done me very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ans61201 View Post
    I’ve never understood anyone who puts a dollar in online casinos. I’ve made my fair share of tilted gambling mistakes in table games at real casinos, or losing a game on a buzzer beater and mad betting some game at 11pm butthole university vs Dickhead state because it’s the only thing on. But man, online casinos are completely rigged.


    Question: you seem like you’re addicted to table games, but don’t speak of playing them while building your roll. For example what is happening during the periods of building your roll up 350 to 16k from sports bets? You’re not playing at all? Have more self control on amounts etc? What you’re doing during these periods may be very important

    In between games i would go in there. I would play the mini games. Although through time the dealer was getting more BJ nd 20s then me the Double Downs were working. If i bet $50 i always lost if i bet $100 way better luck. I probably through going on and off won maybe half in the casino . But when i went in this morning dealer non stop aces showing a lot of BJs . At one point i was doing $2500 a hand and i was getting 2 aces and 11s to DD on but almost all of them missed and the dealer did not have great hands on those ones. It took me hours to get to there and 10 minutes to lose it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    In between games i would go in there. I would play the mini games. Although through time the dealer was getting more BJ nd 20s then me the Double Downs were working. If i bet $50 i always lost if i bet $100 way better luck. I probably through going on and off won maybe half in the casino . But when i went in this morning dealer non stop aces showing a lot of BJs . At one point i was doing $2500 a hand and i was getting 2 aces and 11s to DD on but almost all of them missed and the dealer did not have great hands on those ones. It took me hours to get to there and 10 minutes to lose it all.

    So there's more luck involved and less skill involved then your originally thinking. Your regularly visiting casinos, and it's the one blow up that kills you. Sounds like you're addicted to the casino games and the quick thrill. If you can't rationalize that it's a rigged game with absolutely no chance of winning, then I'd say you have to work on completely quitting gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ans61201 View Post
    So there's more luck involved and less skill involved then your originally thinking. Your regularly visiting casinos, and it's the one blow up that kills you. Sounds like you're addicted to the casino games and the quick thrill. If you can't rationalize that it's a rigged game with absolutely no chance of winning, then I'd say you have to work on completely quitting gambling.
    I am going to try to block as many as i can . I just when betus called me told them to block everything. I hope they all do it because someof them i really like sportsbetting at because of the higher limits.

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    I stick with sports betting 1-2℅ of bankroll. I have all sports books I play at, have their casino blocked. ( Online sports books casinos are rigged after they get to know you). The only other game I play is poker. Online you need a 20-25x bankroll to buy in. Play nl cash. It takes 10 years, but then the raids in the tables are on. Do it that way and you will stop the bust outs. do it any other way,( other then marginal differences) and your gonna bust out. I.e you mite bust some separated poker bankrolls out at first while you learn to play the game. **I.e you no longer play in the casino, except on very special occasions, but the bust out problem is over***

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    It's odd that Youwager disabled your casino and not the live dealer also. When i requested them to be disable because of the clearly slanted run of hands they disabeld everything but Sportsbook and poker. neither appear anywhere on m account. Its shitty but they probably know youll eventually cave and hit the live table eventually with winnings. Like John said they figure you out pretty quick.

    Ive ran 100 to a grand a few times, and each time Id piss away 500 of it 10 minute at the online BJ table. this was at DSI and Bookmaker. Their all shit, i finaly wised up and disabled everything.

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    Cappy how much you down lifetime casinos??

    Aprrox?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedenthead View Post
    It's odd that Youwager disabled your casino and not the live dealer also. When i requested them to be disable because of the clearly slanted run of hands they disabeld everything but Sportsbook and poker. neither appear anywhere on m account. Its shitty but they probably know youll eventually cave and hit the live table eventually with winnings. Like John said they figure you out pretty quick.

    Ive ran 100 to a grand a few times, and each time Id piss away 500 of it 10 minute at the online BJ table. this was at DSI and Bookmaker. Their all shit, i finaly wised up and disabled everything.
    Well that was actually because of me. It was so bad in the straight virtual that i had that blocked but thought maybe since it was live it would be better . So i kept that part active when i asked for the other to be disabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vividjohn45 View Post
    I stick with sports betting 1-2℅ of bankroll. I have all sports books I play at, have their casino blocked. ( Online sports books casinos are rigged after they get to know you). The only other game I play is poker. Online you need a 20-25x bankroll to buy in. Play nl cash. It takes 10 years, but then the raids in the tables are on. Do it that way and you will stop the bust outs. do it any other way,( other then marginal differences) and your gonna bust out. I.e you mite bust some separated poker bankrolls out at first while you learn to play the game. **I.e you no longer play in the casino, except on very special occasions, but the bust out problem is over***
    I have never really played poker too much though. I know like you many like to build their roll up in the poker room. But i figure i would get killed because i dont play too much with poker against other players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Cappy how much you down lifetime casinos??

    Aprrox?
    Wow let me think about that. If you are talking the amounts i lost from building it up like just with the last one going from $350 to $18600 and looking at it as the $18600 through the years it is a TON. EASILY at least around $150000 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    Wow let me think about that. If you are talking the amounts i lost from building it up like just with the last one going from $350 to $18600 and looking at it as the $18600 through the years it is a TON. EASILY at least around $150000 .
    He’s talking about your deposited money. Not your winnings that you so
    reluctantly loss like some bored rich schmuck.

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