[RudyRuetigger]

move this shit to politics

no one here gives a rats ass

[JIBBBY]

move this shit to politics

no one here gives a rats ass

True Rudy but what about all the other worthless thread starts collecting dust in the Players Lounge that no one gives a rats ass about? What do we do with all those? Should we send them all to the Saloon and let JJ have fun with them? ..

[rkelly110]

If Kim and North Korea ever launched a nuke and it hit America or any of our allied Countries, not only would the US respond with extreme deadly force and absolutely wipe NK off the map within a days time America would have the support of every allied force in the world.. Probably including Russia and China..

Kim might be crazy but he's not that crazy... Kim just wants to be a world power like China, America and Russia and he's trying everything he can to do just that..

If he keeps flying the test ICBM empty missiles over allied Countries he is flirting with a military response to take out his all his known missile silos... That's about as bad as it could get..

The spent missiles are landing in the sea of japan. Shouldn't they be leading the charge against NK?

Thought Trump campaigned on isolation? Alienating us from the world? America 1st?

Why is his/ our noses in it? Aren't we saber rattling to NK? Don't we have nukes? Why are we different than they are?

[JIBBBY]

The spent missiles are landing in the sea of japan. Shouldn't they be leading the charge against NK?

Thought Trump campaigned on isolation? Alienating us from the world? America 1st?

Why is his/ our noses in it? Aren't we saber rattling to NK? Don't we have nukes? Why are we different than they are?

I agree America should look out for America 1st.. We can't do it in regards to North Korea though..

I guess we are a loving nation after all and we need our Allies and they need us.. Trump figured that out after he got into office... That's why he has been traveling around the world and speaking everywhere.

As far as Japan goes -the military is still suspect and not a real power house.. They do have missiles pointed at N Korea and ready to go though if attacked.. South Korea the same..

Wiki -

Recent developments

According to an article in Pravda, the Russian political publication, on May 30, 2013, the Council of National Defense of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party (LDP), approved a draft proposal for the "full-scale rearmament of the country." This was said to include the renaming of the Japan Self-Defense Forces into that of a full army for national defense. Ex-ministers of the LDP, Shigeru Ishiba and Gen Nakatani were identified as the prime movers behind the proposed large scale rearmament of Japan. They presented a draft reform of the rearmament that was approved and sent to the Government for consideration. Shigeru Ishiba called the current restrictions imposed after the Second World War on the size of the Japanese armed forces as long out of date.^[15]
In the same article, Valery Kistanov, director of the Center for the Japanese Studies at the Institute of the Far East, was quoted as saying he believes that Japanese offensive weapons could be deployed in any direction. "Of course, first of all Japanese weapons would be directed against North Korea (the DPRK), and then China (the PRC). Japanese missile defense system is ramping up its power due to the increasing missile and nuclear forces in China. Either way the country will continue to spend billions of dollars on the military industry. According to Japanese political analysts and politicians, it is primarily due to the situation on the Korean peninsula and growth of China's military. These two factors are considered a threat by Japan, and therefore the country will actively rearm."^[15]
In September 2015, the Japanese Diet enacted the 2015 Japanese military legislation, a series of laws that allows them to defend other allies in case of war being declared upon them, including that the Self-Defense Forces may provide material support to allies engaged in combat internationally. The justification is that by not defending/supporting an ally, it would weaken alliances and endanger Japan.^[16]
In May 2017, Japanese Prime Minister Abe set a 2020 deadline for revising the Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution, a clause in the national Constitution of Japan outlawing war as a means to settle international disputes involving the state.^{[17][18][19][19][20]}

[jtoler]

If Kim and North Korea ever launched a nuke and it hit America or any of our allied Countries, not only would the US respond with extreme deadly force and absolutely wipe NK off the map within a days time America would have the support of every allied force in the world.. Probably including Russia and China..

Kim might be crazy but he's not that crazy... Kim just wants to be a world power like China, America and Russia and he's trying everything he can to do just that..

If he keeps flying the test ICBM empty missiles over allied Countries he is flirting with a military response to take out his all his known missile silos... That's about as bad as it could get..

nothingburger, get a clue, its all games.

[JIBBBY]

nothingburger, get a clue, its all games.

I agree on this one but if one of those Kim test missiles ever fail and land on a populated city like Japan all hell could break loose.. Kim is flirting with danger testing all these missiles, one test missile misses the Ocean all bets are off..

[Russian Rocket]

I guess we are a loving nation

Jibbby did you get too much sun over there today? How's the weather in LA?

[jtoler]

I agree on this one but if one of those Kim test missiles ever fail and land on a populated city like Japan all hell could break loose.. Kim is flirting with danger testing all these missiles, one test missile misses the Ocean all bets are off..

just teasing, that word has grown on me.

[brooks85]

The spent missiles are landing in the sea of japan. Shouldn't they be leading the charge against NK?

Thought Trump campaigned on isolation? Alienating us from the world? America 1st?

Why is his/ our noses in it? Aren't we saber rattling to NK? Don't we have nukes? Why are we different than they are?

only an anti-american like rkelly or jtoler would ask this question.

[PAULYPOKER]

The US military is ratcheting up all over the world...

They have surrounded China and Russia..

Just put missiles for the first time on the Baltic border with Russia..

And the recent deal with Taiwan has completed the noose around China..

There is so much selling and deployments of weapons that I can't keep up.......

US deploys advanced missile system to Baltics

UK to buy $1B worth of US-made JLTVs

'Russia ready to expel US diplomats'

India holds naval exercise with Japan, US

‘US isolation inevitable under Trump’

US arms sales to hit record in 2017: Report

US bombers fly near North Korean border

‘US to test THAAD system in Alaska’

US rejects drills suspension with S Korea

US warns Persian Gulf crisis could escalate

US strategic bombers fly over sea in taunt to China

Trump: 'Interesting things' to happen in Mideast

[JIBBBY]

Jibbby did you get too much sun over there today? How's the weather in LA?

It has been hot as hell out here in Santa Monica the last few days.. ..

[PAULYPOKER]

https://www.state.gov/t/avc/newstart/index.htm

Strategic Offensive Reductions: The Treaty between the United States of America and the Russian Federation on Measures for the Further Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms, also known as the New START Treaty, entered into force on February 5, 2011. Under the Treaty, the United States and Russia must meet the Treaty’s central limits on strategic arms by February 5, 2018; seven years from the date the Treaty entered into force. Each Party has the flexibility to determine for itself the structure of its strategic forces within the aggregate limits of the Treaty. These limits are based on the rigorous analysis conducted by Department of Defense planners in support of the 2010 Nuclear Posture Review.

Early in his presidency, Obama was an outspoken advocate of nuclear disarmament. In April 2009, he pledged his commitment “to achieving a nuclear free world,” together with former Russian President Dimitri Medvedev. Later that month, Obama delivered a celebrated speech in Prague, saying he sought “the security of a world without nuclear weapons.” And he negotiated a 2011 nuclear treaty with Russia, which required both countries to reduce their arsenals to 1,550 operational warheads each.


But according to Obama’s advisers, Russia’s invasion of Crimea halted his disarmament efforts. In a 2014 interview with the New York Times, Gary Samore, one of Obama’s top first-term nuclear advisers, said, “The most fundamental game changer is Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. That has made any measure to reduce the stockpile unilaterally politically impossible.”


The Obama administration has historically insisted that its massive $1 trillion nuclear weapons modernization program does not represent a return to Cold War-era nuclear rivalry between Russia and the United States.

But President Obama’s defense budget request for 2017 includes language that makes it clear that nuclear “modernization” really is about Russia after all.

Obama's Russian Rationale for $1 Trillion Nuke Plan Signals New .

[ManOfValue]

All I know is, Obama's hair is probably getting black again. Funny how quickly he got gray and haggard after getting into office. Tough job.

[rkelly110]

Early in his presidency, Obama was an outspoken advocate of nuclear disarmament. In April 2009, he pledged his commitment “to achieving a nuclear free world,” together with former Russian President Dimitri Medvedev. Later that month, Obama delivered a celebrated speech in Prague, saying he sought “the security of a world without nuclear weapons.” And he negotiated a 2011 nuclear treaty with Russia, which required both countries to reduce their arsenals to 1,550 operational warheads each.


But according to Obama’s advisers, Russia’s invasion of Crimea halted his disarmament efforts. In a 2014 interview with the New York Times, Gary Samore, one of Obama’s top first-term nuclear advisers, said, “The most fundamental game changer is Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. That has made any measure to reduce the stockpile unilaterally politically impossible.”


The Obama administration has historically insisted that its massive $1 trillion nuclear weapons modernization program does not represent a return to Cold War-era nuclear rivalry between Russia and the United States.

But President Obama’s defense budget request for 2017 includes language that makes it clear that nuclear “modernization” really is about Russia after all.

Obama's Russian Rationale for $1 Trillion Nuke Plan Signals New .

So what do we have here? Is it Trumps idea or Obama's idea to "modernize" the nuke program? I'm confused.
Trump is undoing everything Obama, but is now doing what Obama wanted? WTF? I wish the orange buffoon
would make up his mind!

[JIBBBY]

Early in his presidency, Obama was an outspoken advocate of nuclear disarmament. In April 2009, he pledged his commitment “to achieving a nuclear free world,” together with former Russian President Dimitri Medvedev. Later that month, Obama delivered a celebrated speech in Prague, saying he sought “the security of a world without nuclear weapons.” And he negotiated a 2011 nuclear treaty with Russia, which required both countries to reduce their arsenals to 1,550 operational warheads each.


But according to Obama’s advisers, Russia’s invasion of Crimea halted his disarmament efforts. In a 2014 interview with the New York Times, Gary Samore, one of Obama’s top first-term nuclear advisers, said, “The most fundamental game changer is Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. That has made any measure to reduce the stockpile unilaterally politically impossible.”


The Obama administration has historically insisted that its massive $1 trillion nuclear weapons modernization program does not represent a return to Cold War-era nuclear rivalry between Russia and the United States.

But President Obama’s defense budget request for 2017 includes language that makes it clear that nuclear “modernization” really is about Russia after all.

Obama's Russian Rationale for $1 Trillion Nuke Plan Signals New .

All Obama did is let our military get old and dated.. Iran nuke deal a bust.. Stopping Korea he didn't even try.. Obama failed at everything militarily as far as I'm concerned.. Won't even mention the rise of ISIS..

He had thought he prolonged and silenced the enemies by paying them off basically and throwing away our tax dollars.. All that did was fund the nuclear programs like Iran did behind Obama's back..

Obama left Trump a mess...

[fried cheese]

So what do we have here? Is it Trumps idea or Obama's idea to "modernize" the nuke program? I'm confused.
Trump is undoing everything Obama, but is now doing what Obama wanted? WTF? I wish the orange buffoon
would make up his mind!

the two party system is just an illusion of choice that divides our country against itself so that the ppl behind the scenes taking advantage of everyone go mostly unnoticed. for important decisions obama and trump are just puppets.

[Thor4140]

All Obama did is let our military get old and dated.. Iran nuke deal a bust.. Stopping Korea he didn't even try.. Obama failed at everything militarily as far as I'm concerned.. Won't even mention the rise of ISIS..

He had thought he prolonged and silenced the enemies by paying them off basically and throwing away our tax dollars.. All that did was fund the nuclear programs like Iran did behind Obama's back..

Obama left Trump a mess...

And this is exactly what Obama meant when he said ''if I watched Fox News I wouldn't vote for me either". And it is also the reason a Maryland poll show that Foxx News watchers are the most misinformed backwards dikwads in our society

[brooks85]

^lol the original obama dick rider. Good times.

So what do we have here? Is it Trumps idea or Obama's idea to "modernize" the nuke program? I'm confused.
Trump is undoing everything Obama, but is now doing what Obama wanted? WTF? I wish the orange buffoon
would make up his mind!

a glimpse into how this idiot's mind works. Just read this and see how stupid rkelly is.

[JIBBBY]

And this is exactly what Obama meant when he said ''if I watched Fox News I wouldn't vote for me either". And it is also the reason a Maryland poll show that Foxx News watchers are the most misinformed backwards dikwads in our society

I watched CNN during Obama's 8 year run in office.. I also watched Fox..

[Thor4140]

I watched CNN during Obama's 8 year run in office.. I also watched Fox..

And u suffer from selective right wing tunnel vision

[Kindred]

I hope he nukes them so we can be done with this mess and I can watch crying hippies dance in the street protesting evil trump

[jtoler]

Nice to see you have no problem with people dying for nothing only hoping it offends people stateside.

[JIBBBY]

And u suffer from selective right wing tunnel vision

Nope, that's why I watch both Fox and CNN to get a grip for both sides..

Don't be hypocritical in your comments Thor because SELECTIVE RIGHT OR LEFT WING VISION can be said to deliver the same effect on either side.. Libs like you Thor that only watch and listen to the LEFT wing fake news are the ones that are fully now programmed to HATE TRUMP and every thing he does for good or for worse... Trump just started his Presidency too..

Political party media brainwashed I am not, are you Thor?



Like what I'm seeing so far with Trump.. Glad to see our Borders are tighter and economy didn't begin to tank.. So far so good and you know it.. I said the same for Obama when he first got into office and found ways to boost and stimulate the economy.

It's always about jobs and economy with Presidents, that's where it hits home with the people in the end...

[PAULYPOKER]

All Obama did is let our military get old and dated.. Iran nuke deal a bust.. Stopping Korea he didn't even try.. Obama failed at everything militarily as far as I'm concerned.. Won't even mention the rise of ISIS..

He had thought he prolonged and silenced the enemies by paying them off basically and throwing away our tax dollars.. All that did was fund the nuclear programs like Iran did behind Obama's back..

Obama left Trump a mess...

You clearly did not read my post in which you quoted

[Thor4140]

Nope, that's why I watch both Fox and CNN to get a grip for both sides..

Don't be hypocritical in your comments Thor because SELECTIVE RIGHT OR LEFT WING VISION can be said to deliver the same effect on either side.. Libs like you Thor that only watch and listen to the LEFT wing fake news are the ones that are fully now programmed to HATE TRUMP and every thing he does for good or for worse... Trump just started his Presidency too..

Political party media brainwashed I am not, are you Thor?



Like what I'm seeing so far with Trump.. Glad to see our Borders are tighter and economy didn't begin to tank.. So far so good and you know it.. I said the same for Obama when he first got into office and found ways to boost and stimulate the economy.

It's always about jobs and economy with Presidents, that's where it hits home with the people in the end...

Although i want to see Trump succeed because i couldn't bear to listen to that dumb as a rock Vice President, I ask u Jibby when the house of cards finally collapses for trump, will u admit how utterly wrong u were or will u be like these other asshats and die defending how stupid your vote was. That is what we have here in a nutshell. You guys don't want to be proven wrong. We watched this whole shit show before with Bush. That is why most people with common sense look down on u clowns. We know gullible people fall for anything and we are tired of watching the country be held back by clowns fighting for their own stupidity.

[PAULYPOKER]

Pence believe it or not would be worse than Trump........

[PAULYPOKER]

So what do we have here? Is it Trumps idea or Obama's idea to "modernize" the nuke program? I'm confused.
Trump is undoing everything Obama, but is now doing what Obama wanted? WTF? I wish the orange buffoon
would make up his mind!

You are almost at your "Uh Huh moment" RK,don't give up....

[PAULYPOKER]

Putin preferred Clinton: Trump

US President Donald Trump says his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin would have been more comfortable with his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, as the president.

“If Hillary had won, our military would be decimated. Our energy would be much more expensive. That's what Putin doesn't like about me,” Trump said in an interview with Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) on Wednesday.

Early in his presidency, Obama was an outspoken advocate of nuclear disarmament. In April 2009, he pledged his commitment “to achieving a nuclear free world,” together with former Russian President Dimitri Medvedev. Later that month, Obama delivered a celebrated speech in Prague, saying he sought “the security of a world without nuclear weapons.” And he negotiated a 2011 nuclear treaty with Russia, which required both countries to reduce their arsenals to 1,550 operational warheads each.


But according to Obama’s advisers, Russia’s invasion of Crimea halted his disarmament efforts. In a 2014 interview with the New York Times, Gary Samore, one of Obama’s top first-term nuclear advisers, said, “The most fundamental game changer is Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. That has made any measure to reduce the stockpile unilaterally politically impossible.”


The Obama administration has historically insisted that its massive $1 trillion nuclear weapons modernization program does not represent a return to Cold War-era nuclear rivalry between Russia and the United States.

But President Obama’s defense budget request for 2017 includes language that makes it clear that nuclear “modernization” really is about Russia after all.

Obama's Russian Rationale for $1 Trillion Nuke Plan Signals New .

Can you say #s 3,4 and 10 on the "sociopath richter scale"?

How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags that could save you from being swept under the influence of a charismatic nut job

Sociopaths are masters at influence and deception. Very little of what they say actually checks out in terms of facts or reality, but they're extremely skillful at making the things they say sound believable, even if they're just making them up out of thin air.


#1) Sociopaths are charming. Sociopaths have high charisma and tend to attract a following just because people want to be around them. They have a "glow" about them that attracts people who typically seek guidance or direction. They often appear to be sexy or have a strong sexual attraction. Not all sexy people are sociopaths, obviously, but watch out for over-the-top sexual appetites and weird fetishes.

#2) Sociopaths are more spontaneous and intense than other people. They tend to do bizarre, sometimes erratic things that most regular people wouldn't do. They are unbound by normal social contracts. Their behavior often seems irrational or extremely risky.

#3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse. Their brains simply lack the circuitry to process such emotions. This allows them to betray people, threaten people or harm people without giving it a second thought. They pursue any action that serves their own self interest even if it seriously harms others. This is why you will find many very "successful" sociopaths in high levels of government, in any nation.

#4) Sociopaths invent outrageous lies about their experiences. They wildly exaggerate things to the point of absurdity, but when they describe it to you in a storytelling format, for some reason it sounds believable at the time.

#5) Sociopaths seek to dominate others and "win" at all costs. They hate to lose any argument or fight and will viciously defend their web of lies, even to the point of logical absurdity.

#6) Sociopaths tend to be highly intelligent, but they use their brainpower to deceive others rather than empower them. Their high IQs often makes them dangerous. This is why many of the best-known serial killers who successfully evaded law enforcement were sociopaths.

#7) Sociopaths are incapable of love and are entirely self-serving. They may feign love or compassion in order to get what they want, but they don't actually FEEL love in the way that you or I do.

#8) Sociopaths speak poetically. They are master wordsmiths, able to deliver a running "stream of consciousness" monologue that is both intriguing and hypnotic. They are expert storytellers and even poets. As a great example of this in action, watch this interview of Charles Manson on YouTube.

#9) Sociopaths never apologize. They are never wrong. They never feel guilt. They can never apologize. Even if shown proof that they were wrong, they will refuse to apologize and instead go on the attack.

#10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth
merely because they say it! Charles Manson, the sociopathic murderer, is famous for saying, "I've never killed anyone! I don't need to kill anyone! I THINK it! I have it HERE! (Pointing to his temple.) I don't need to live in this physical realm..."

[Thor4140]

Pence believe it or not would be worse than Trump........

ya think? You see the shit this crook was trying to pull after Katrina. This asshole is a cancer.

[JIBBBY]

Although i want to see Trump succeed because i couldn't bear to listen to that dumb as a rock Vice President, I ask u Jibby when the house of cards finally collapses for trump, will u admit how utterly wrong u were or will u be like these other asshats and die defending how stupid your vote was. That is what we have here in a nutshell. You guys don't want to be proven wrong. We watched this whole shit show before with Bush. That is why most people with common sense look down on u clowns. We know gullible people fall for anything and we are tired of watching the country be held back by clowns fighting for their own stupidity.

Why are Lib/Dems so confident the Trump house of cards will collapse? Trump is not gonna be impeached, he hasn't done anything wrong.. Media pumping Russia garbage is all that is.. . Garbage news for ratings... Trump is just doing the job and is as clean as virgin prom queen..

You got idiots like Maxine Waters pushing an impeachment agenda based on NOTHING.. This is what the left sees constantly and believes it.. LOL.. Trump isn't going anywhere...

[Thor4140]

Why are Lib/Dems so confident the Trump house of cards will collapse? Trump is not gonna be impeached, he hasn't done anything wrong.. Media pumping Russia garbage is all that is.. . Garbage news for ratings... Trump is just doing the job and is as clean as virgin prom queen..

You got idiots like Maxine Waters pushing an impeachment agenda based on NOTHING.. This is what the left sees constantly and believes it.. LOL.. Trump isn't going anywhere...

Because the Russia shit is becoming so obvious even u guys who are delusional and wear blinders should be able to see it. How many names u need to see? You are not hearing the real bad stuff on Fox. All u hear is their nonsense to divert it to Hillary. Now i said this before and i will say it again. I never thought Papa Trump knew any of this but im starting to have doubts about that now. His kid is a cancer and always was. His big mouth is gonna be their doom. His two kids are pieces of shit along the lines of Sadams Udi and Kodi or whatever the fuk their names were. I know your guy won and i really don't think he won because of the Russian shit (it helped tho) but the bottom line is who's side are u on? You want another country fuking with our elections? Richard Clarke said they will be back. That is what bothers people like me. You shitbags put being in power before the good of the country and always have. You can run the country right into the ground like Bush did, and you assholes will be right back voting for the same pieces of shit policies, because you are gluttons for misery. Jibby, i have to run could u spell check my post and makes sure it is close to readable so the people who live pathetic lives and comment on everyone's grammar instead of the actually post, sleep well tonight.

[RoyBacon]

Thor take a deep breath. You, Don Lemon and anyone with an IQ over 54 knows the Russia story was always about the butt hurts finding an excuse for being beaten by a reality tv star.

Liberals and their allies in the press will not win on stories, you need policies. And I think we can at least agree the democrats have none.

[JIBBBY]

Because the Russia shit is becoming so obvious even u guys who are delusional and wear blinders should be able to see it. How many names u need to see? You are not hearing the real bad stuff on Fox. All u hear is their nonsense to divert it to Hillary. Now i said this before and i will say it again. I never thought Papa Trump knew any of this but im starting to have doubts about that now. His kid is a cancer and always was. His big mouth is gonna be their doom. His two kids are pieces of shit along the lines of Sadams Udi and Kodi or whatever the fuk their names were. I know your guy won and i really don't think he won because of the Russian shit (it helped tho) but the bottom line is who's side are u on? You want another country fuking with our elections? Richard Clarke said they will be back. That is what bothers people like me. You shitbags put being in power before the good of the country and always have. You can run the country right into the ground like Bush did, and you assholes will be right back voting for the same pieces of shit policies, because you are gluttons for misery. Jibby, i have to run could u spell check my post and makes sure it is close to readable so the people who live pathetic lives and comment on everyone's grammar instead of the actually post, sleep well tonight.

Keep watching your fake news CNN and MSNBC shows my friend..It's always entertaining fiction.

Stay uninformed, brainwashed and programmed to hate Trump based on nothing in his short time in office thus far....

Russia Russia Russia.. believe......

[jt315]

Why are Lib/Dems so confident the Trump house of cards will collapse? Trump is not gonna be impeached, he hasn't done anything wrong.. Media pumping Russia garbage is all that is.. . Garbage news for ratings... Trump is just doing the job and is as clean as virgin prom queen..

You got idiots like Maxine Waters pushing an impeachment agenda based on NOTHING.. This is what the left sees constantly and believes it.. LOL.. Trump isn't going anywhere...

[Thor4140]

Thor take a deep breath. You, Don Lemon and anyone with an IQ over 54 knows the Russia story was always about the butt hurts finding an excuse for being beaten by a reality tv star.

Liberals and their allies in the press will not win on stories, you need policies. And I think we can at least agree the democrats have none.

Roy u have absolutely no clue about anything so why bother getting involved. I showed u the liberal policies but u avoided them like u do reliable news sources. Now Roy go jerk off to Hannity. The two of you belong together. One guy that feasts on the gullible and U Roy, the gullible.