People Jealous Of Others Who Get Money From The USA Government

[Grandmaster B]

I never understood how someone who makes $100,000 a year can be jealous of someone who gets $10,000 a year from the government i.e. SSI or GA (GA is probably like $3,000 a year)

I hear these people say things like "I cant believe these people on government aid have nice tvs and ipods and nice cars!!"



these same people made $1,000,000 in 10 years but are jealous of someone on SSI who has a 1999 honda accord and a $100 ipod??

can someone please explain to me why?

[Grandmaster B]

me personally I would look down on someone who scams other people like lawyers and bankers more so than someone getting money from the government

what about people who deal drugs?...driving hummers and living in 5 bedroom homes??

why arent there any complaints about those people??

nope...none...just complaints about someone getting money from the government having a iphone


I think its a form of envy...that someone did something you wish you could do??...$100,000 a year but your life is so bad??...maybe these same people should look in the mirror and re evaluate their lavish lifestyle????

[BadNina]

Because they are in effect paying for it. The government has no money of it own. It all comes from taxpayers. There are those that are truly in need of help and then there are those who just like to suck the public teet. You really can't understand why someone who works his ass off gets a little hacked off because Uncle Sam won't keep his hand out of his pocket?

[Grandmaster B]

Because they are in effect paying for it. The government has no money of it own. It all comes from taxpayers. There are those that are truly in need of help and then there are those who just like to suck the public teet. You really can't understand why someone who works his ass off gets a little hacked off because Uncle Sam won't keep his hand out of his pocket?

so would you say a lawyer or a banker "works his ass off"

how about a politician?...does he "work his ass off"

how about stock brokers....do they "work their ass off" also

actually in reality they are scammers...smart people who are working the system legally

do I hate on their hustle?....nope

do you hate on the next person and what they do to survive?

thats the problem with these jealous people...so worried about what the next person is doing when they should be looking in the mirror

[Grandmaster B]

oh and nina...in response to your claim that "The government has no money of it own"

I always though the US government printed money on special paper using a printing press at the US treasury??

http://www.ustreas.gov/

[BadNina]

so would you say a lawyer or a banker "works his ass off"

how about a politician?...does he "work his ass off"

how about stock brokers....do they "work their ass off" also

actually in reality they are scammers...smart people who are working the system legally

do I hate on their hustle?....nope

do you hate on the next person and what they do to survive?

thats the problem with these jealous people...so worried about what the next person is doing when they should be looking in the mirror

Your comment on lawyers is obviously spoken by someone who never went to law school. The additional education requirements are a bitch.

Politicians as they are today are another group that just suck off the public teet. I will agree they are useless.

Stock Brokers and Bankers....you will always have good mixed in with the bad. There are some that do work their butts off. They don't rise to their positions because they look good in a suit.


So you believe that people who work hard and earn a lot of money should be punished for their achievements?

[SBR_John]

GB,
I think you missed the point a little. Taxpayers do not want their money wasted. Doesnt matter if its given to someone who doesn't deserve it or on a war that makes no sense. Most folks are just fine with seeing their tax dollars go to helping a family getting back on their feet. But giving it to a crack dealer who is driving a new Mercedes ...uh no.

[BadNina]

oh and nina...in response to your claim that "The government has no money of it own"

I always though the US government printed money on special paper using a printing press at the US treasury??

http://www.ustreas.gov/

Now you are being deliberately dense. Any and all governments are funded by their people. Government is not a business in itself. All of its monies come from its people. I had given you credence for being smarter than that. My bad.

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

money doesn't come from the government.
money comes from the pockets of taxpayers-people who earn money.

lawyers, bankers, stockbrokers-hells yeah those people work their asses off.

[Grandmaster B]

Your comment on lawyers is obviously spoken by someone who never went to law school. The additional education requirements are a bitch.

Politicians as they are today are another group that just suck off the public teet. I will agree they are useless.

Stock Brokers and Bankers....you will always have good mixed in with the bad. There are some that do work their butts off. They don't rise to their positions because they look good in a suit.


So you believe that people who work hard and earn a lot of money should be punished for their achievements?

no I dont

but I feel the jealousy of someone who lives in some low income apts in the ghetto is ridiculous

when that same person is spending a dime on a steak dinner nightly

would you say someone who deals drugs is a better person than someone who gets money from the government?

I mean your view is taxpayers pay for the person on SSI correct?

the taxpayers dont pay for the drug dealers right?

[Grandmaster B]

money doesn't come from the government.
money comes from the pockets of taxpayers-people who earn money.

lawyers, bankers, stockbrokers-hells yeah those people work their asses off.

work their asses off scamming people

[Grandmaster B]

GB,
I think you missed the point a little. Taxpayers do not want their money wasted. Doesnt matter if its given to someone who doesn't deserve it or on a war that makes no sense. Most folks are just fine with seeing their tax dollars go to helping a family getting back on their feet. But giving it to a crack dealer who is driving a new Mercedes ...uh no.

totally understood....but if I made $100,000 a year...I wouldnt give a rats ass about someone who got $10,000 a year from SSI...thats just jealousy and greed IMO

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

totally understood....but if I made $100,000 a year...

ah, I see. you're poor.

that's why you don't understand that professionals work hard for a living.

[Grandmaster B]

Now you are being deliberately dense. Any and all governments are funded by their people. Government is not a business in itself. All of its monies come from its people. I had given you credence for being smarter than that. My bad.

whether or not you want to believe it...the government owns you nina

if they came on CNN tomorrow and announced that the paper money people have died over no longer is worth anything would you say that "monies" come from the people?

and Im the dense one?

[Grandmaster B]

ah, I see. you're poor.

that's why you don't understand that professionals work hard for a living.

most likely with a comment like that you sponge off your parents

[BadNina]

There is a difference between feeling jealous and feeling disgust at scammers. People who draw disablility have to go through an arduous process to draw it. But there are still some that fall through the cracks who draw it and are fully capable of working. They just don't want to. I am all for helping someone in need. I am not for someone who is just lazy and expects others to take care of them like they deserve it. There is a major difference there that should be obvious.

[fsugolf]

gov't money coming from the federal reserve . Federal Reserve being a non governmental company that charges interest on money loaned to the gov't. Talk about scams, why don't you talk about the real scammers

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

most likely with a comment like that you sponge off your parents

and you have poor deductive reasoning skills. that'll keep you poor.

[PittsburghPlayer]

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[Grandmaster B]

There is a difference between feeling jealous and feeling disgust at scammers. People who draw disablility have to go through an arduous process to draw it. But there are still some that fall through the cracks who draw it and are fully capable of working. They just don't want to. I am all for helping someone in need. I am not for someone who is just lazy and expects others to take care of them like they deserve it. There is a major difference there that should be obvious.

now we're getting somewhere

I already gave you some examples of legal scammers

how about the pharmaceutical companies??...do they "work their ass off?"

see the difference hun??

some people live their ENTIRE LIFE getting rich off of SCAMMING OTHER PEOPLE

if anything...those are the ones that people should be complaining about

but no...they complain about someone able to park closer to the grocery store

[Thor4140]

The real question is how some people are so conditioned to hate on the welfare guy getting 10 thousand a year but turn a blind eye to a bank bailout where a banK gets 5 billion dollars. The airline bailout for billions, the automotive bailouts or this con job of a war which has put billions in some pockets cause there is no money in peace. It always comes back to the Welfare guy and his ten thousand and now these same people with these problems are now fighting to help the health insurance companies keep us away from universal health care but are to stupid to realize it. But hey they still keep up the good fight about the measley money the welfare guy is getting.

[Jive]

Bingo Nina and others. People don't get things from the government; they get them from me. If you want to help someone in supposed "need," (i.e., people with only 3 TV's, 2 cars, and 2 cell phones who somehow can play the lottery $50 worth a week--and yes, most of the people on gov't assistance fit this category, according the Federal Gov't's own numbers, look it up), open your own wallet and hand them some money. Don't take it away from me by force. That is stealing, any way you slice it. And yeah, it pisses me off that I lose over 45% of my income to various state and federal taxes while others get paid to have kids with 3 different men and is stipend because they don't work more than 25 hours a week. It is not my responsibility to pay for your car, your kids, your healthcare, your rent, your cell phone, your TV, or anything else. Especially when a vast majority of people "in need" are there from their own poor decisions and often time slothfulness. I am not your daddy and I resent having money stolen from me for any reason. It is MY money (or it should be) and if I want to help someone in need I will write a check.

Besides, from a pure economic standpoint, it is dreadfully bad for society as a whole because it allocates resources in an inefficient manner. As with everything the government does for "people in need," they end up hurting not only others by stealing from them, but they hurt the people they are supposedly trying to help. See the effect of rent controlled housing in San Francisco and New York, for example.

But hey, since we are in the giving mood, I'm going to open a new account at one of these offshore books. Since I won't have any money in there, I fully expect BetJam to take a chunk out of your accounts and give it to me.

[Grandmaster B]

The real question is how some people are so conditioned to hate on the welfare guy getting 10 thousand a year but turn a blind eye to a bank bailout where a banK gets 5 billion dollars. The airline bailout for billions, the automotive bailouts or this con job of a war which has put billions in some pockets cause there is no money in peace. It always comes back to the Welfare guy and his ten thousand

its wierd aint it?

[Masu485]

This is funny. I take it none of you have ever had to live poor in your lives. People who make the most money work proportionally much less than lower income people. It's unreal that people say bankers and stock brokers work so hard to make their living. They may work equal to the single mother who has to work two or three jobs on 4 or 5 hours sleep each day just to survive, yet they get paid obscene amounts comparatively.

Of course if you ask anyone, they will say they have had a rough life, or that they had to work very hard to get where they are. And the may even believe that, but they are just completely oblivious to lower class survival. Fact of the matter is, people making that much money don't deserve it.

From a psychological perspective, most people just use defense mechanisms of denial so that they don't have to think everyday about people sitting on their asses making 200k per year, while they work 2 jobs and struggle to pay bills. Just be ignorant or you'll go crazy.

[Grandmaster B]

Bingo Nina and others. People don't get things from the government; they get them from me. If you want to help someone in supposed "need," (i.e., people with only 3 TV's, 2 cars, and 2 cell phones who somehow can play the lottery $50 worth a week--and yes, most of the people on gov't assistance fit this category, according the Federal Gov't's own numbers, look it up), open your own wallet and hand them some money. Don't take it away from me by force. That is stealing, any way you slice it. And yeah, it pisses me off that I lose over 45% of my income to various state and federal taxes while others get paid to have kids with 3 different men and is stipend because they don't work more than 25 hours a week. It is not my responsibility to pay for your car, your kids, your healthcare, your rent, your cell phone, your TV, or anything else. Especially when a vast majority of people "in need" are there from their own poor decisions and often time slothfulness. I am not your daddy and I resent having money stolen from me for any reason. It is MY money (or it should be) and if I want to help someone in need I will write a check.

Besides, from a pure economic standpoint, it is dreadfully bad for society as a whole because it allocates resources in an inefficient manner. As with everything the government does for "people in need," they end up hurting not only others by stealing from them, but they hurt the people they are supposedly trying to help. See the effect of rent controlled housing in San Francisco and New York, for example.

But hey, since we are in the giving mood, I'm going to open a new account at one of these offshore books. Since I won't have any money in there, I fully expect BetJam to take a chunk out of your accounts and give it to me.

damn it sounds like you live in the ghetto...nah...you're in a gated community

[Grandmaster B]

This is funny. I take it none of you have ever had to live poor in your lives. People who make the most money work proportionally much less than lower income people. It's unreal that people say bankers and stock brokers work so hard to make their living. They may work equal to the single mother who has to work two or three jobs on 4 or 5 hours sleep each day just to survive, yet they get paid obscene amounts comparatively.

Of course if you ask anyone, they will say they have had a rough life, or that they had to work very hard to get where they are. And the may even believe that, but they are just completely oblivious to lower class survival. Fact of the matter is, people making that much money don't deserve it.

From a psychological perspective, most people just use defense mechanisms of denial so that they don't have to think everyday about people sitting on their asses making 200k per year, while they work 2 jobs and struggle to pay bills. Just be ignorant or you'll go crazy.

[MC PICKS]

Its an easy answer to this one. I worked my ASS off for every dime I have made. And because some lazy ass does not have the initiative to do the same, in this new wonderful administration, I am expected to be obligated to help some deadbet out who cant find a job. I got a wife, two kids and alimony, do I go looking for a handout, no I give that meserable ex c**t her court ordered payement and work harder to make a better life for my family. Not some lazy shit that cant find work. It's dog eat dog and I understand its a tough time to find work, but people who worked for their money already more than do their fair share with taxes. On a final note, anyone who is gambling, should never be approved for one nickel of government aide.

[Jive]

totally understood....but if I made $100,000 a year...I wouldnt give a rats ass about someone who got $10,000 a year from SSI...thats just jealousy and greed IMO

Then you can write them a freaking check for however much you want to give them. I am not sure what makes you think you have the right to demand that money is taken away from people you don't know and who you played ZERO role in making that money for them. That is height of arrogance, but the typical mindset of people today.

[SBR_John]

and you have poor deductive reasoning skills. that'll keep you poor.

Whack!!! (as they would say in a cartoon)

I dont mind social programs as much as I mind the waste in star war type weapons programs and wars that are un necessary. Social programs do tend to funnel the money back into the economy and also benefit children and hopefully keep some off the street.

[Thor4140]

its wierd aint it?

Sure neither one is right but the welfare guy is getting a quarter of a penny to the dollar compared to the real theives but since they are white collar thieves a segment of our population is okay with this.

[Grandmaster B]

Sure neither one is right but the welfare guy is getting a quarter of a penny to the dollar compared to the real theives but since they are white collar thieves a segment of our population is okay with this.

exactly

now my question in a sense (why I made this thread for discussion) is where does this brainwashing come from?

is it passed down from generations??

[Thor4140]

Whack!!! (as they would say in a cartoon)

I dont mind social programs as much as I mind the waste in star war type weapons programs and wars that are un necessary. Social programs do tend to funnel the money back into the economy and also benefit children and hopefully keep some off the street.

Bingo. Our defense spending in ths country is a joke and if u combine all the other countrys and add them all up they still don't spend as much as us. Our defense budget is the biggest waste of money on the budget. But if u keep people scared u can keep stealing the peoples money.

[fsugolf]

"sitting on their asses making 200k per year, while they work 2 jobs and struggle to pay bills." In all likelihood that person working two jobs and struggling doesn't have the education or knowledge to work that job to make 200k a year. They also didn't pay for a Bachelors or higher degree while attending college for 4+++ years to be able to do that. It's not like you get a 200k a year job right off the bat, you start out busting your ass so you can get to that point with a company.

[Jive]

This is funny. I take it none of you have ever had to live poor in your lives. People who make the most money work proportionally much less than lower income people. It's unreal that people say bankers and stock brokers work so hard to make their living. They may work equal to the single mother who has to work two or three jobs on 4 or 5 hours sleep each day just to survive, yet they get paid obscene amounts comparatively.

Of course if you ask anyone, they will say they have had a rough life, or that they had to work very hard to get where they are. And the may even believe that, but they are just completely oblivious to lower class survival. Fact of the matter is, people making that much money don't deserve it.

From a psychological perspective, most people just use defense mechanisms of denial so that they don't have to think everyday about people sitting on their asses making 200k per year, while they work 2 jobs and struggle to pay bills. Just be ignorant or you'll go crazy.

Whose fault is that someone is a single mother? I am sure you have enough sense to know that people who make a lot of money each year do so because they have invested their entire lives into learning a trade, sacrificing untold time, money, resources, and pleasures to get where they are. If you don't want to be a poor single mother, don't have a baby with someone who would make a poor or absentee father. Yeah, I know, personal responsibility is a bitch, ain't it? You want ME to be responsible for their poor choices and in a few cases, bad luck. Not my fault, and I've spent 30 years building up a business, often times living off of nothing but soup and well water (which is really "poor," unlike the "poor" Americans who by average have all kinds of electronic goodies that I never could afford). I have invested thousands and thousands of hours in my life to be able to make money today. If you were too stupid, too lazy, or too cursed to do that when you were younger, tough titty. That is the life, but it certainly isn't my problem or my responsibility.

[Thor4140]

exactly

now my question in a sense (why I made this thread for discussion) is where does this brainwashing come from?

is it passed down from generations??

It is to divide people. republicans do one thing very good and that is divide people. You take the very stupid of the stupid americans and u can do this.