Trump just sealed the deal... no way I vote for him and you shouldn't either

[pavyracer]

Donald Trump will make America great again. If you believe it vote for him. We all want greatness.

[Bcatswin]

Just won the WV Primary according to CNN projections.

[grease lightnin]

Just won the WV Primary according to CNN projections.

Surprise.

[pavyracer]

Just won the WV Primary according to CNN projections.

Hard fought win for Trump especially given the fact he was the only candidate on the ballot.

[grease lightnin]

Hard fought win for Trump especially given the fact he was the only candidate on the ballot.

Nah. He is the only one who hasn't conceded, but they're all still on the ballot.

[pavyracer]

Nah. He is the only one who hasn't conceded, but they're all still on the ballot.

Well do people have TV and internet in West Virginia? Maybe they don't know Trump is the only one still running. I would be pissed if I voted for Cruz and then found out he dropped out.

[Ra77er]

They need help there in WV and Hilary literally does not give 2 fuks about anyone living there.

[grease lightnin]

Indio is my new favorite poster. WOW!! That is one smart son of a bitch!!

And I like greaser. Nothing personal here, pal. But I am now officially a HUGH Indio fan. I think I need to sic him on that retarded beaver coochy!!

Also, agree with Indio 1000% on the jews

More satire. Opie is like the tom wolfe of SBR

[DwightShrute]

They need help there in WV and Hilary literally does not give 2 fuks about anyone living there.

much like the 4 Americans in the American diplomatic compound in Benghazi

[Bcatswin]

Better let Nebraska know as well.

[larco15]

First off, I don't even know what betpoints are, and I have no use for them, so to me, they have about as much value as a Zimbabwe dollar. Offer me $10k in a secured account, and I'll send you over 2,000 pages of what you want, including official notarized documents filed (will be the best 10k you ever spend). Otherwise, it's not worth my time.

So let me see if I understand you correctly,you think the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers don't have any significant holdings in the Federal Reserve, Bank of London, World Bank, IMF, or any other entity that controls currency of governments? It's not like it's a secret, and it certainly isn't a conspiracy theory, it's common knowledge. However, they make sure it's not talked about too much on their media channels and newspapers, and they laughably are allowed to keep it withheld from congressional audits, which is the biggest slap in the face to any American citizen. So I guess it's possible for those who are simple minded and easily controlled to believe that world currencies aren't run by globalist loan sharks.

And did you call me racist for calling the primary holders of Federal Reserve shares Jews? Well kid, that's what they are. If you're so far gone that telling the truth is racist to you, perhaps you should think long and hard as to why that is, then perhaps, you'll start to see things a little more clearly. It's obvious you're not ready to talk about things as an adult. Maybe you never will be. The choice is yours. Seek out the truth, embrace wisdom, be an independent thinker, and you too can be free. And you certainly won't ever make any interest payments on anything ever again.

Smart man. Next time, though, try not to engage such a simpleton as grease. You´re too intelligent for that.

[Andy117]

again, proving you have no idea what you're talking about. There is only one thing that crushed coal you putz.


oh and that's cool you researched it, I was busy posting about it before it happened and making money before guys like you even saw the effects.

Coal still sucks.

[grease lightnin]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2016/03/18/whats-killing-the-coal-industry/#26d349255281

"There are a number of reasons behind the demise of the U.S. coal industry, but the biggest factor is displacement of coal by natural gas in the power generation sector."

[ACoochy]

More satire. Opie is like the tom wolfe of SBR

Employee of the month wall at SBR

OPIE, don't ever change pal

[pavyracer]

Coal is easy to mine. When we run out of oil and natural gas we can mine the coal. No need to mine coal now.

[DwightShrute]

[khicks26]

Because the dollar is backed by nothing but the full faith and credit of the US Govt.



No we are not headed for a deep depression. We are in the latter part of the current cycle, but there isn't any indication of a "deep depression". Can you find someone to say there is? Of course you can. That is perpetual in any environment.

We are more in a slow crash, no one has recovered from 2008 but the 1% & Wall St. Markets are shrinking as most Americans are trying to pay off their debts. More & more of peoples income goes to debt & interest, less on goods & services (debt deflation). All while most people have not had a real raise in wages for the last 30 years.

Banks produce financial products and they employ millions of people. Of course they are a part of the real economy, all businesses are part of the economy.

Banks, Wall St & Insurance are part of the Fire Sector, not the real economy of production & consumption. In their current state they are just extracting wealth from the bottom to the top. They are the ones who fund politicians & make sure that their people dominate the FED.

They do provide lending to small businesses, although they are more conservative than they were before 08-09. They charge interest on these loans because they have to make a profit, like in any business. But they are also taking the risk, what if loans aren't paid back?

The bankers don't care if the loans go bad. They still get their fees, wages, bonuses, stock options & let the government bailout the banks. That's what lead to the 08 crash & its still going on today. Just like student loan debt, its all backed by a government guarantee the banks don't care if they go bad. Plus you can't declare bankruptcy on a student loan. Tell me who set that shit up. More than likely the bankers that run the FED.

Bailouts have been paid back. https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/

Yeah they payed them back. The loans they got were at 0% interest. How much money did they make off the whole scam. I know nobody put the money back in my 401k & my house is still not worth what it once was.

I don't know what bank you're referring to.

https://ilsr.org/rule/bank-of-north-dakota-2/

If you want to know our future, look at Greece.

[grease lightnin]

We are more in a slow crash, no one has recovered from 2008 but the 1% & Wall St. Markets are shrinking as most Americans are trying to pay off their debts. More & more of peoples income goes to debt & interest, less on goods & services (debt deflation). All while most people have not had a real raise in wages for the last 30 years.*

I agree that income inequality exists and that trickle-down economics have not worked. I voted for Obama both terms. However, the last year or so, there have been wage increases in the data and unemployment has gone down. Yes, real unemployment is still high, but it has gone down as well. And there is more to the problem of joblessness than the lack of jobs. Many people who should be working are simply not willing to. As far as someones income getting gobbled up by interest payments, you say it like they don't have a choice in the matter. Nobody takes out a loan with a gun to their head. And banks don't give loans people can't pay back. And before you say otherwise, think of the foreigner we all know (we all know at least one) who came here with nothing, got two or three low paying jobs, lived with multiple people in small quarters, within their means, and then within a few years have a couple hundred thousand in the bank and a couple small businesses. If it is impossible for the poor to get ahead, then how the hell does that happen?

Banks, Wall St & Insurance are part of the Fire Sector, not the realeconomy of production &*consumption. In their current state they are just extracting wealth from the bottom to the top. They are the ones who fund politicians & make sure that their people dominate the FED.

Finance insurance and real estate make up about 21% of GDP. That is the real economy. It creates millions of jobs (most of which are middle class jobs), and it provides many products and services. The Fed is a bank owned by member banks. Who else would runs the fed but bankers?

The bankers don't care if the loans go bad. They still get their fees, wages, bonuses, stock options & let the government bailout the banks. That's what lead to the 08 crash & its still going on today. Just like student loan debt, its all backed by a government guarantee the banks don't care if they go bad. Plus you can't declare bankruptcy on a student loan. Tell me who set that shit up. More than likely the bankers that run the FED.

To say that banks still make tons of money when loans aren't paid back is simply untrue. Do your research. Now you're just assuming. Who made it so student loans are difficult to discharge in bankruptcy like govt back mortgages? Congress. The idea is that homeownership and education are viewed as things that promote overall prosperity, and so the inability to just walk away from that debt keeps capital flowing into these things to ensure that people can still buy houses and get educations.

Yeah they payed them back. The loans they got were at 0% interest. How much money did they make off the whole scam. I know nobody put the money back in my 401k & my house is still not worth what it once was.*

First you said the banks were sitting on bail out funds, now you agree they paid it back but say it was zero percent interest? Did you click on the link? The treasury made over a 10% profit on the deal. Smh

Nobody put money back in your 401k? Money you took out or investment losses? As far as your house, I think you would agree that the real estate bubble caused home prices to go up too much. And if your house hasn't gotten back to it's prior value, then it should have never been there in the first place. Same goes for my house.

https://ilsr.org/rule/bank-of-north-dakota-2/

What makes that bank different from other banks like it of similar size other than 40% of their profits going to the state? The make loans (mostly partnering with other banks), they charge interest and fees, etc, you know, the things you said don't do anything for the economy.

If you want to know our future, look at Greece.

Possible, but not probable. I sure hope not, I have kids.

[ACoochy]

Crawling up Dopie's arse enough there tico??

[ByeShea]

I voted for Obama both terms.

Love the dramatic "just sealed the deal" announcement, as if you were considering to actually vote for him.

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In other news that I guarantee won't concern your 1% hating a$s, Hillary's son-in-law is continuing to take a beating in the press for his hedge fund (raised $$$ through Goldman money, coinciding - hey look at that - with Hillary's secret Goldman speeches) that was betting on risky international bond markets.

Go ahead and vote for the crooked witch, though. It's not like she'll win.

[grease lightnin]

Love the dramatic "just sealed the deal" announcement, as if you were considering to actually vote for him.

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In other news that I guarantee won't concern your 1% hating a$s, Hillary's son-in-law is continuing to take a beating in the press for his hedge fund (raised $$$ through Goldman money, coinciding - hey look at that - with Hillary's secret Goldman speeches) that was betting on risky international bond markets.

Go ahead and vote for the crooked witch, though. It's not like she'll win.

What do you mean by "1% hating ass"?

[brooks85]

I agree that income inequality exists and that trickle-down economics have not worked. I voted for Obama both terms. However, the last year or so, there have been wage increases in the data and unemployment has gone down. Yes, real unemployment is still high, but it has gone down as well. And there is more to the problem of joblessness than the lack of jobs. Many people who should be working are simply not willing to.


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the delusions of bag holders are always an interesting read. You get to see into the mind of a sheep.


just hilarious he says income inequality exists and trickle-down economics in one sentence then goes on to mention he voted Obama both terms in the next... lol just high-brow comedy








"And banks don't give loans people can't pay back."

and that part, that is legendary. I won't forget that one.





here is a hint, there is a reason I put a picture of bill clinton laughing in response to your ridiculous statement.

[grease lightnin]

Brooks I agree that nafta contributed to the erosion of the middle class

[brooks85]

well ok but that isn't why I put a picture of clinton. You said banks don't give loans to people who can't payback and while that is true in a vacuum that is not how it works in reality. Every economics book across the country will tell you there is no perfect free market because of government intervention and that is exactly what happened largely thanks to Bill Clinton, Phil Gramm and the democrats platform of running on morals instead of substance. Those two crooks and democrats take the majority of the blame for the 2008 global crisis. So when you say banks won't give loans to people that can't afford to pay back you're forgetting that is exactly what they were forced to do.



I'd be remiss for not giving jimmy carter his due respect considering he signed the first Act into law.

[khicks26]

well ok but that isn't why I put a picture of clinton. You said banks don't give loans to people who can't payback and while that is true in a vacuum that is not how it works in reality. Every economics book across the country will tell you there is no perfect free market because of government intervention and that is exactly what happened largely thanks to Bill Clinton, Phil Gramm and the democrats platform of running on morals instead of substance. Those two crooks and democrats take the majority of the blame for the 2008 global crisis. So when you say banks won't give loans to people that can't afford to pay back you're forgetting that is exactly what they were forced to do.



I'd be remiss for not giving jimmy carter his due respect considering he signed the first Act into law.

That's funny, I don't recall Bill giving out loans to ninjas. I didn't know he worked on Wall St as well as being president.

Who was he working with when he passed those BS laws? Republicans maybe.

[grease lightnin]

well ok but that isn't why I put a picture of clinton. You said banks don't give loans to people who can't payback and while that is true in a vacuum that is not how it works in reality. Every economics book across the country will tell you there is no perfect free market because of government intervention and that is exactly what happened largely thanks to Bill Clinton, Phil Gramm and the democrats platform of running on morals instead of substance. Those two crooks and democrats take the majority of the blame for the 2008 global crisis. So when you say banks won't give loans to people that can't afford to pay back you're forgetting that is exactly what they were forced to do.



I'd be remiss for not giving jimmy carter his due respect considering he signed the first Act into law.

Yes I agree with this as well. It contributed to the financial crisis. There are many contributing factors to all of these things we are discussing. There is never one simple solution as the fire brands on both sides claim.

The point of my thread is that we don't need fire brands and we certainly don't need The Donald, we need statesmen, like Kasich.

Word is Hillary is looking at Evan Bayh as running mate. I think that would be a great choice that is in line with what I am saying.

[brooks85]

Yes I agree with this as well. It contributed to the financial crisis. There are many contributing factors to all of these things we are discussing. There is never one simple solution as the fire brands on both sides claim.

The point of my thread is that we don't need fire brands and we certainly don't need The Donald, we need statesmen.

what about hillary's platform on going after drug companies for the flavor du jour liberal battle cry of predator pricing? Is she going to do it? Of course not but it would be devastating for the country on multiple levels.


don't put too much weight on what they say during the election. Is a wall going up? More than likely it will be a fence but that's ok, both are proven to work wonderfully.

[grease lightnin]

what about hillary's platform on going after drug companies for the flavor du jour liberal battle cry of predator pricing? Is she going to do it? Of course not but it would be devastating for the country on multiple levels.


don't put too much weight on what they say during the election. Is a wall going up? More than likely it will be a fence but that's ok, both are proven to work wonderfully.

Yes I agree that they never do what they say they will, however, in regard to donald's quote on the debt, he doesn't HAVE to do anything. He can just SAY he will and that alone could be incredibly destructive. If he only said it once, and issued a "clarifying statement" afterward that showed he realized his error, then maybe I would keep my mind open, but it is my understanding that he said it again in the same way days after the first comment. I cannot reconcile with it.

[ByeShea]

Word is Hillary is looking at Evan Bayh as running mate.

Whoa! Lightning in a bottle! A whole lotta pizzaz on that ticket!

Fortunately for Bayh hillary has an abundance of charisma to spare - so if voters don't really warm up to him he can borrow some of her charm.

[grease lightnin]

Whoa! Lightning in a bottle! A whole lotta pizzaz on that ticket!

Fortunately for Bayh hillary has an abundance of charisma to spare - so if voters don't really warm up to him he can borrow some of her charm.

Yeah you're right. Pizzaz is what this country needs dammit!!

[Dr.Gonzo]

Yes I agree that they never do what they say they will, however, in regard to donald's quote on the debt, he doesn't HAVE to do anything. He can just SAY he will and that alone could be incredibly destructive. If he only said it once, and issued a "clarifying statement" afterward that showed he realized his error, then maybe I would keep my mind open, but it is my understanding that he said it again in the same way days after the first comment. I cannot reconcile with it.

This is nonsense, you're a milquetoast left leaning parasite who needs to justify his mental gymnastics to oppose Trump.

Trump hurt muh feelings, no one cares cuck, nap it out.

[grease lightnin]

This is nonsense, you're a milquetoast left leaning parasite who needs to justify his mental gymnastics to oppose Trump.

Trump hurt muh feelings, no one cares cuck, nap it out.

Wrong. I am right-leaning. I am a fiscal conservative. The problem is, in case you haven't noticed, the right has gone mad. One sign of this is if you show that you are an independent thinker, right wing nutcases make comments like you just did.

And it is laughable that you are calling me a parasite. I probably pay more in taxes than the sum of all your income.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Wrong. I am right-leaning. I am a fiscal conservative. The problem is, in case you haven't noticed, the right has gone mad.

And it is laughable that you are calling me a parasite. I probably pay more in taxes than the sum of all your income.

Yeah, the right leaning, fiscal conservative Obama voter

I doubt it, you've clearly tried to present yourself as more intelligent than you actually are, so vanity is obviously an issue here.

If there's a candidate to make shit up, it'd be you.

[grease lightnin]

Yeah, the right leaning, fiscal conservative Obama voter

I doubt it, you've clearly tried to present yourself as more intelligent than you actually are, so vanity is obviously an issue here.

If there's a candidate to make shit up, it'd be you.

Okay, explain to me how I have "clearly" misrepresented my level of intelligence, "Dr. Gonzo". You do realize Hunter S. Thompson was a democrat, right?

[grease lightnin]

Yeah, the right leaning, fiscal conservative Obama voter :lmao.

I voted for Obama the first term because I thought the democrats would be more supportive of the economy in the midst of a crisis. The second time it was because Mitt Romney was recorded saying he didn't give a fukk about the middle class.