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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    Here is nhl hockey in 2015, all of the teams have big/fast players and the goalies have equip that takes up much of the net. This is a game of who gets the lucky breaks etc..unpredictable.
    if that was case Toronto would win every 20 years or so

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    on paper Tampa has zero shot
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    on ice i dont give them much of a chance either

    Blackhawks are the ST Louis Cardinals of NHL

    well coached and they have a championship pedigree
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    Chicago Blackhawks to the Moon!!! Hawks in 5!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    Home ice means little in hockey. Goaltending means more. TB pretty damn live as the dog
    WHo has Bishop faced that is nearly the offensive power house the Hawks are? MTL and NYR couldn't score to safe their life, and DET got to him a few times. Bishop is going to get F'ing lit up in a few games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob6199 View Post
    WHo has Bishop faced that is nearly the offensive power house the Hawks are? MTL and NYR couldn't score to safe their life, and DET got to him a few times. Bishop is going to get F'ing lit up in a few games.
    And who has Crawford faced that IS the offensive power house the Bolts are? Det/Mtl/NYR were 10/20/3 in scoring this year. Nash/Minn/Ana were 14/12/11. Defensively they were 15/1/3 versus 9/6/20. Lightning beat the presumed Vezina winner in Price and lit up King Henrik. Don't think Crawford scares them too much. This is Chicago's 3rd appearance in the Finals since 2009/10 (2 Cup wins); the Lightning are 6-2 against them in that span. Isn't going to be the walkover some seem to think.


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    Skip the futures, bet the Over in Game 1 and see how they match-up. I agree that home ice isn't going to be a determining factor in the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordsandtequila View Post
    And who has Crawford faced that IS the offensive power house the Bolts are? Det/Mtl/NYR were 10/20/3 in scoring this year. Nash/Minn/Ana were 14/12/11. Defensively they were 15/1/3 versus 9/6/20. Lightning beat the presumed Vezina winner in Price and lit up King Henrik. Don't think Crawford scares them too much. This is Chicago's 3rd appearance in the Finals since 2009/10 (2 Cup wins); the Lightning are 6-2 against them in that span. Isn't going to be the walkover some seem to think.

    Lets see the Ducks, for one (WHO LED THE PLAYOFFS IN SCORING, but lets forget about that)....AND STOP giving regular season stats, that are useless once the playoffs come. RS and playoffs are 2 completely different aspects....MTL,NYR,DET couldn't score for anything and they even lit up Bishop. TB has faced Keith or Seabrook who are better then any defensemen they have faced in the postseason.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob6199 View Post
    Lets see the Ducks, for one (WHO LED THE PLAYOFFS IN SCORING, but lets forget about that)....AND STOP giving regular season stats, that are useless once the playoffs come. RS and playoffs are 2 completely different aspects....MTL,NYR,DET couldn't score for anything and they even lit up Bishop. TB has faced Keith or Seabrook who are better then any defensemen they have faced in the postseason.....
    Or maybe that speaks to the quality (or lack thereof) of defense played in the West vs the East. Say what you want about Bishop; when it counted most he was a brick wall. 1 goal allowed in 3 clinching games. And the Bolts went against much better goaltending, they won't have a problem scoring against Crawford. Closer series than you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Yeah I noticed that. Greek when they want they take a position. Pinny has +115. Greek likes the hawks. Then again all money outside of the usa will be on the hawks.
    The weird thing is they were -130 TB for game 1 when everyone else was at -115 and the line moved to settle with the Greeks #.

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    pound Tampa

    everything you own

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    Quote Originally Posted by manny24 View Post
    pound Tampa

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    Manny, no.

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    Too many of u not giving TB enough of a chance. No respect

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    Manny, no.
    bigday dont do it. Stick with UFC until hockey is over

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    Too many of u not giving TB enough of a chance. No respect

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    Come on lightning

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    Fukkin hawks

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    they lose game 1, at home, when they had a lead in the 3rd, yea, that's why every1 is not taking them

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    The Hawks are the most resilient team ive ever witnessed,got the biggest hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    The Hawks are the most resilient team ive ever witnessed,got the biggest hearts.
    jammy fkrs last night packer end of discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeboy View Post
    Both goalies don't smother you with confidence given the attacking units of both teams, which makes you wonder....many point to who has the better defense, what about the coaches hawks edge it in this aspect? What about the forecheck or the superior powerplay?

    I disagree home advantage will be huge in this series, for pure value & picturing Cinderella Crawford lying on his arse whilst Stamkos n co lift the cup I've made my choice and backing TB.

    Cups going to Florida fellas shout out to my boii packerz
    No Ruder my friend,the Cups going back to where it belongs the windy city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeboy View Post
    jammy fkrs last night packer end of discussion.
    Lol! they always get it done when it counts,all that matters to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    The Hawks are the most resilient team ive ever witnessed,got the biggest hearts.

    Kings last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Kings last year
    Yeah both clubs are very similar in that respect,were lucky to have teams that we can be proud of,the Blues fans would give their right arm to even make a Cup final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    Yeah both clubs are very similar in that respect,were lucky to have teams that we can be proud of,the Blues fans would give their right arm to even make a Cup final.
    Good analogy was think San Jose

    Hope series stays low scoring as my Duncan Keith to win MVP has a good shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Good analogy was think San Jose

    Hope series stays low scoring as my Duncan Keith to win MVP has a good shot
    Yeah same deal with the Sharks,they have no heart and it has shown year in year out.

    It should tighten up after that crazy last rd,good luck with your pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    Yeah both clubs are very similar in that respect,were lucky to have teams that we can be proud of,the Blues fans would give their right arm to even make a Cup final.
    proud of the same team that couldnt even defend the cup with the big boys lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeboy View Post
    proud of the same team that couldnt even defend the cup with the big boys lol

    you are a canucks fan so enough said air bet boy

    That team will never win a cup in your lifetime. Toronto has a better shot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeboy View Post
    proud of the same team that couldnt even defend the cup with the big boys lol

    Cant all be like those Canuck jokers that blew a 3-1 series lead in the Cup Final to the Bruins.
    The Hawks cant win every year,nobody is that good,but I am very proud of how they play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    Cant all be like those Canuck jokers that blew a 3-1 series lead in the Cup Final to the Bruins.
    They do a bang up job trashing their town after a loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    They do a bang up job trashing their town after a loss
    Lol! class fans all the way

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    I didn't bet the lightning but am rooting for them. Fukk yea on gm 2 win. See u in Chicago

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    think they lose both in Chicago and win game 5 back at home

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    I'm seeing a split in chitown

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    possibly bet Hawks in 6 before series still think thats outcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    possibly bet Hawks in 6 before series still think thats outcome
    Ill take that

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