I created a model for MLB that is threatening to end the industry.
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I just updated the record correctly. I went through and did it myself. It wasn't anywhere near what these buffoons were trying to claim. -
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75 picks and a winning record and lets saloon it. No wonder this site is dying.Leave a comment:
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Since June 5 until now
49-25 +7.25 Units
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This is not possible. When I uploaded my record I was +double digit units or so. Theres no chance in hell that I lost 17 units since then its not even close.
And what is "keeo it to yourself" supposed to mean? So I won't be able to place the same bets anymore because I posted them online, thats what your saying?
When I go to place my wager the sportsbook is gonna be like" No sorry we can't take that bet because too many people online from sbr already hammered it"?
No dude. I seriously doubt anyone here is gonna move all the lines at the books. Thats a laugable take.Leave a comment:
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I got the exact same results as LouisvilleKid, spreadsheet attached. Feel free to let us know if we got anything wrong, but now the results have been double checked. I didn't just claim your wins were losses, I linked them to the game results in baseball-reference.com for verification. To be fair, I did also say you had listed a loss that was actually a win and gave you credit for that one (very first one).
With yesterday's loss, record comes to 41-34-3, 7.88 units lost, ROI of -6.91%.
If you're going to claim your model is going to end the industry, then you better have verifiable proof. Not having accurate record keeping tells us that the original signal you found was probably false signal due to improper grading of bets, and probably not on purpose. I don't think you made up data for a signal, that's why I asked what you used to grade your bets and that you should look into it. I've made mistakes myself, I wrote code to grade bets and then acted on my algorithm but later found out that I was grading spreads and Asian bets improperly so I had to revisit that code multiple times. It still might not be perfect, but I'm open to that possibility.
It's easy to backtest a strategy and find something really strong, only to find out that it doesn't pan out going forward due to overfitting. I've probably gone through 20-30 different strategies at this point where backtesting showed huge ROIs but once I actually bet on them, they proved to be negative ROI.
Also, who are you trying to prove this strategy to? If it's actually threatening to end the industry, keep that to yourself and go make millions. The more you try to defend yourself, the less credibility you have.Attached FilesLast edited by EnTaroTuna; 07-14-25, 10:11 AM.Leave a comment:
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Ill go through and update the record and make sure its completely accurate during this All Star break.Leave a comment:
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These dudes are complete losers. Thats a disgraceful way for a grown man to act. I was off by one unit so he creates a table claiming a ton of bets that were wins are losses, got it.
Forgive me if I find this schoolgirl type behavior indefensibly retarded.Leave a comment:
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The power is in your hands to shut them up if you want. Or to ignore them.Leave a comment:
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Keep an accurate record and you wont have the problem?
As it is what can you say? You claiming it is winning holds about as much water as Foosball saying its down 10 units right now.
Dont keep a record at all and just share picks day to day is another way to avoid this stuff.
But just start keeping a proper record from now on if you really care about shutting them up.
The only thing you shouldn't do is argue with them. Just gives them an excuse to make more posts.
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As it is what can you say? You claiming it is winning holds about as much water as Foosball saying its down 10 units right now.
Dont keep a record at all and just share picks day to day is another way to avoid this stuff.
But just start keeping a proper record from now on if you really care about shutting them up.
The only thing you shouldn't do is argue with them. Just gives them an excuse to make more posts.Leave a comment:
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When I updated my record, if it was off, it was by maybe 1 unit or so. Why are you idiots claiming all this outrageous shit?Last edited by HoleWrecker; 07-13-25, 06:06 PM.Leave a comment:
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No you guys are clowns. Im not even down units at all. Just a bunch of disgruntled losing bettors lookin to talk shit here.Leave a comment:
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This is hot garbage.
6/5 SF -114 W,, LAD un 9.5 -109 L , Hou un 7.5 +100 L , Minn -186 L
6/6 SF +122 W
6/7 Hou un 7.5 -120 x2 (F/10inn 5-3) L
6/8 Phil un 7 -115 W , Minn -170 W
6/9 Cle un 8.5 +100 L
6/10 LAA -155 W (closing line was -175), SF -225 W
6/11 LAA -130 W (closing line was -150)
6/12 no play
6/13 NYM -159 L , KC -152 L
6/14 no play
6/15 KC -148 L , SF +1.5 (no line listed) W , LAD TT un 5 -148 Push
6/16 TB -120 W , Sea -166 L , Nats -165 L
6/17 SF -153 L
6/18 Tor -110 W
6/19 SF -168 W , NYM F5 un 4.5 -115 W
6/20 TB F5 un 4.5 -125 L , SF -120 L
6/21 Col ov 12 -110 L , Hou F5 un 4 +100 L
6/22 SF -150 W , LAD -220 W
6/23 ATL F5 -150 W , LAA +100 W
6/24 SF -170 L , NYY -153 L , Hou F5 un 3.5 +105 W
6/25 Minn F5 -130 Push , LAA F5 -140 W
6/26 Det ov 8.5 -120 L , Sea F5 +110 L
6/27 NYY -201 W , LAA F5 -175 W , TB F5 -130 L
6/28 Mil F5 -1/2 -145 L , Oak TT un 4.5 -210 L , CWS TT un 3.5 -135 W , Hou F5 ML -115 L
6/29 Tor F5 +1/2 -154 W , ATL F5 un 4.5 -160 W , Mil F5 -1/2 -134 L
6/30 Bos F5 -215 W , TB F5 un 4.5 -145 L , Ari TT un 4.5 -195 W
7/1 SD un 9 -158 PPD , STL F5 TT un 1.5 -166 W , Bal TT un 3.5 -145 W
7/2 LAA F5 -110 W , Mil F5 -175 L , TX -135 W
7/3 SF -114 W
7/4 Bal F5 un 5.5 -180 W , CHC TT ov 4.5 -140 W
7/5 Oak TT un 4.5 -190 W , LAD F5 un 4.5 -125 L , SF F5 -200 W
7/6 Mil F5 un 4.5 -130 W , Col ov 11 -110 L
7/7 LAA F5 un 4.5 L
7/8 , 7/9 no plays
7/10 Sea F5 ML -160 W , ATl ML -182 L , TB F5 ML -115 W
7/11 Det F5 un 3.5 -130 L , Pitt F5 un 3.5 -140 W , SF F5 un 4.5 -166 L
7/12 Det ML -127 L , Hou F5 un 3.5 -125 W , LAA F5 ML -125 W , Tor -157 L
41-33-2 + 1 PPD
Avg juice -143
total -665 (based on 100 wager)
need to win at about 58.85% to break even at avg plays of -143
41-33 = 55%
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Anyone that comes with a system needs to be posting his bets from the book so that the winnings or losses are documented. At the end of the day this is what matters. Did you cash out? Or did you lose your deposit?Leave a comment:
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Have you been banned from every book 'in the industry' or are you just yappingLeave a comment:
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July 12, 2025- Tigers ML –127
- Rangers/Astros First 5 Innings Under 3.5 (–125)
- Angels First 5 Innings ML (–125)
- Blue Jays ML –157
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Im way above 2.5%. It just seems that for whatever reason nobody is able to go through and get an accurate W-L and units won record for this thread. They keep breaking it down into segments and its starting to make me shake my head a bit.
That being said, its my responsibility to keep records. Chatgpt is a massive pile of shit when it comes to numbers and I didnt know that until recently. When I updated the record, its very close to accurate though.Leave a comment:
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Trust but verify.
I track everything in a database, accurate reporting is key to knowing whether you're actually onto something. I thought I had a killer strategy in MLB as well but turned out I was just lucky. I've bet on so many signals I thought were really strong but then realized after the fact that I made some mistake in accounting and it wasn't profitable in the end.
Still looking for a strong signal, especially with the gambling tax changes from Trump's bill. We'll need to beat the market at > 2.5% ROI to keep anything.Leave a comment:
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Yeah. From 6/5 to 6/24 (what's in the table), there were 35 bets, updated record is 17-17-1, cumulative net loss of 7.29 units. That's betting to win 1 unit when favored or betting 1 unit when a dog.Since then, from 6/25 to 7/10, you made 3.46 units back with a record of 21-12-2.Date Pick Team(s) Spread Odds units wagered result Net Cumulative Net 6/5/2025 Moneyline Giants -114 1 1.14 Win 1 1 6/5/2025 Total Under Mets/Dodgers 9.5 -109 1 1.09 Loss -1.09 -0.09 6/5/2025 Total Under Pirates/Astros 7.5 100 1 1 Loss -1 -1.09 6/5/2025 Moneyline Twins -186 1 1.86 Loss -1.86 -2.95 6/6/2025 Moneyline Giants 122 1 1 Win 1.22 -1.73 6/7/2025 Total Under Astros/Guardians 7.5 -120 2 2.4 Loss -2.4 -4.13 6/8/2025 Total Under Phillies/Pirates 7 -115 1 1.15 Win 1 -3.13 6/8/2025 Moneyline Twins -170 1 1.7 Win 1 -2.13 6/9/2025 Total Under Reds/Guardians 8.5 100 1 1 Loss -1 -3.13 6/10/2025 Moneyline Angels -155 1 1.55 Win 1 -2.13 6/10/2025 Moneyline Giants -225 1 2.25 Win 1 -1.13 6/11/2025 Moneyline Angels -130 1 1.3 Win 1 -0.13 6/13/2025 Moneyline Mets -159 1 1.59 Loss -1.59 -1.72 6/13/2025 Moneyline Royals -152 1 1.52 Loss -1.52 -3.24 6/15/2025 Run Line Giants 1.5 -130 1 1.3 Win 1 -2.24 6/15/2025 Moneyline Royals -148 1 1.48 Loss -1.48 -3.72 6/15/2025 Team Total Under Dodgers 5 -148 1 1.48 Push 0 -3.72 6/16/2025 Moneyline Rays -120 1 1.2 Win 1 -2.72 6/16/2025 Moneyline Mariners -166 1 1.66 Loss -1.66 -4.38 6/16/2025 Moneyline Nationals -165 1 1.65 Loss -1.65 -6.03 6/17/2025 Moneyline Giants -153 1 1.53 Loss -1.53 -7.56 6/18/2025 Moneyline Blue Jays -110 1 1.1 Win 1 -6.56 6/19/2025 First 5 Innings Under Braves/Mets 4.5 -115 1 1.15 Win 1 -5.56 6/19/2025 Moneyline Giants -158 1 1.58 Win 1 -4.56 6/20/2025 First 5 Innings Under Rays/Tigers 4.5 -125 1 1.25 Loss -1.25 -5.81 6/20/2025 Moneyline Giants -120 1 1.2 Loss -1.2 -7.01 6/21/2025 Total Over Rockies/Dbacks 12 -110 1 1.1 Loss -1.1 -8.11 6/21/2025 First 5 Innings Under Angels/Astros 4 100 1 1 Loss -1 -9.11 6/22/2025 Moneyline Giants -150 1 1.5 Win 1 -8.11 6/22/2025 Moneyline Dodgers -220 1 2.2 Win 1 -7.11 6/23/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Braves -150 1 1.5 Win 1 -6.11 6/23/2025 Moneyline Angels 100 1 1 Win 1 -5.11 6/24/2025 Moneyline Giants -170 1 1.7 Loss -1.7 -6.81 6/24/2025 Moneyline Yankees -153 1 1.53 Loss -1.53 -8.34 6/24/2025 First 5 Innings Under Phillies/Astros 3.5 105 1 1 Win 1.05 -7.29
Date Pick Team(s) Spread Odds units wagered result Net Cumulative Net 6/25/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Angels -140 1 1.4 Win 1 1 6/25/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Minnesota Twins -130 1 1.3 Push 0 1 6/26/2025 Total Over Tigers/A's 8.5 -120 1 1.2 Loss -1.2 -0.2 6/26/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Mariners 110 1 1 Loss -1 -1.2 6/27/2025 Moneyline Yankees -201 1 2.01 Win 1 -0.2 6/27/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Angels -175 1 1.75 Win 1 0.8 6/27/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Rays -130 1 1.3 Loss -1.3 -0.5 6/28/2025 Team Total Under A's 4.5 -210 1 2.1 Loss -2.1 -2.6 6/28/2025 Team Total Under White Sox 3.5 -135 1 1.35 Win 1 -1.6 6/28/2025 First 5 Innings Run Line Brewers -0.5 -145 1 1.45 Win 1 -0.6 6/28/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Astros -115 1 1.15 Loss -1.15 -1.75 6/29/2025 First 5 Innings Run Line Brewers -0.5 -154 1 1.54 Loss -1.54 -3.29 6/29/2025 First 5 Innings Spread Blue Jays 0.5 -154 1 1.54 Win 1 -2.29 6/29/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Braves/Phillies 4.5 -160 1 1.6 Win 1 -1.29 6/30/2025 Team Total Under Diamondbacks 4.5 -195 1 1.95 Win 1 -0.29 6/30/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Red Sox -215 1 2.15 Win 1 0.71 6/30/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Rays/A's 4.5 -145 1 1.45 Loss -1.45 -0.74 7/1/2025 Total Under Phillies/Padres 9 -158 1 1.58 Push 0 -0.74 7/1/2025 First 5 Team Total Under Cardinals 1.5 -166 1 1.66 Win 1 0.26 7/1/2025 Team Total Under Orioles 3.5 -145 1 1.45 Win 1 1.26 7/2/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Angels -110 1 1.1 Win 1 2.26 7/2/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Brewers -175 1 1.75 Loss -1.75 0.51 7/2/2025 Moneyline Rangers -135 1 1.35 Win 1 1.51 7/3/2025 Moneyline Giants -114 1 1.14 Win 1 2.51 7/4/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Braves/Orioles 5.5 -180 1 1.8 Win 1 3.51 7/4/2025 Team Total Over Cubs 4.5 -140 1 1.4 Win 1 4.51 7/5/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Giants -200 1 2 Win 1 5.51 7/5/2025 Team Total Under Athletics 4.5 -190 1 1.9 Win 1 6.51 7/5/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Astros/Dodgers 4.5 -125 1 1.25 Loss -1.25 5.26 7/6/2025 Total Over Rockies/White Sox 11 -110 1 1.1 Loss -1.1 4.16 7/6/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Marlins/Brewers 4.5 -130 1 1.3 Win 1 5.16 7/7/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Rangers/Angels 4.5 -188 1 1.88 Loss -1.88 3.28 7/10/2025 Moneyline Braves -182 1 1.82 Loss -1.82 1.46 7/10/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Mariners -160 1 1.6 Win 1 2.46 7/10/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Rays -115 1 1.15 Win 1 3.46
I'd look into how you're getting the bets graded, or just do them manually, it's only a few games a day. On a few days you did come back to recap your performance and you did correctly mention you had a 7 day win streak from 6/29 to 7/5.Leave a comment:
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Im up well over 10 units since the beginning. I have no idea why people continue to break it down in this strange manner.Leave a comment:
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Yeah. From 6/5 to 6/24 (what's in the table), there were 35 bets, updated record is 17-17-1, cumulative net loss of 7.29 units. That's betting to win 1 unit when favored or betting 1 unit when a dog.Since then, from 6/25 to 7/10, you made 3.46 units back with a record of 21-12-2.Date Pick Team(s) Spread Odds units wagered result Net Cumulative Net 6/5/2025 Moneyline Giants -114 1 1.14 Win 1 1 6/5/2025 Total Under Mets/Dodgers 9.5 -109 1 1.09 Loss -1.09 -0.09 6/5/2025 Total Under Pirates/Astros 7.5 100 1 1 Loss -1 -1.09 6/5/2025 Moneyline Twins -186 1 1.86 Loss -1.86 -2.95 6/6/2025 Moneyline Giants 122 1 1 Win 1.22 -1.73 6/7/2025 Total Under Astros/Guardians 7.5 -120 2 2.4 Loss -2.4 -4.13 6/8/2025 Total Under Phillies/Pirates 7 -115 1 1.15 Win 1 -3.13 6/8/2025 Moneyline Twins -170 1 1.7 Win 1 -2.13 6/9/2025 Total Under Reds/Guardians 8.5 100 1 1 Loss -1 -3.13 6/10/2025 Moneyline Angels -155 1 1.55 Win 1 -2.13 6/10/2025 Moneyline Giants -225 1 2.25 Win 1 -1.13 6/11/2025 Moneyline Angels -130 1 1.3 Win 1 -0.13 6/13/2025 Moneyline Mets -159 1 1.59 Loss -1.59 -1.72 6/13/2025 Moneyline Royals -152 1 1.52 Loss -1.52 -3.24 6/15/2025 Run Line Giants 1.5 -130 1 1.3 Win 1 -2.24 6/15/2025 Moneyline Royals -148 1 1.48 Loss -1.48 -3.72 6/15/2025 Team Total Under Dodgers 5 -148 1 1.48 Push 0 -3.72 6/16/2025 Moneyline Rays -120 1 1.2 Win 1 -2.72 6/16/2025 Moneyline Mariners -166 1 1.66 Loss -1.66 -4.38 6/16/2025 Moneyline Nationals -165 1 1.65 Loss -1.65 -6.03 6/17/2025 Moneyline Giants -153 1 1.53 Loss -1.53 -7.56 6/18/2025 Moneyline Blue Jays -110 1 1.1 Win 1 -6.56 6/19/2025 First 5 Innings Under Braves/Mets 4.5 -115 1 1.15 Win 1 -5.56 6/19/2025 Moneyline Giants -158 1 1.58 Win 1 -4.56 6/20/2025 First 5 Innings Under Rays/Tigers 4.5 -125 1 1.25 Loss -1.25 -5.81 6/20/2025 Moneyline Giants -120 1 1.2 Loss -1.2 -7.01 6/21/2025 Total Over Rockies/Dbacks 12 -110 1 1.1 Loss -1.1 -8.11 6/21/2025 First 5 Innings Under Angels/Astros 4 100 1 1 Loss -1 -9.11 6/22/2025 Moneyline Giants -150 1 1.5 Win 1 -8.11 6/22/2025 Moneyline Dodgers -220 1 2.2 Win 1 -7.11 6/23/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Braves -150 1 1.5 Win 1 -6.11 6/23/2025 Moneyline Angels 100 1 1 Win 1 -5.11 6/24/2025 Moneyline Giants -170 1 1.7 Loss -1.7 -6.81 6/24/2025 Moneyline Yankees -153 1 1.53 Loss -1.53 -8.34 6/24/2025 First 5 Innings Under Phillies/Astros 3.5 105 1 1 Win 1.05 -7.29
Date Pick Team(s) Spread Odds units wagered result Net Cumulative Net 6/25/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Angels -140 1 1.4 Win 1 1 6/25/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Minnesota Twins -130 1 1.3 Push 0 1 6/26/2025 Total Over Tigers/A's 8.5 -120 1 1.2 Loss -1.2 -0.2 6/26/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Mariners 110 1 1 Loss -1 -1.2 6/27/2025 Moneyline Yankees -201 1 2.01 Win 1 -0.2 6/27/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Angels -175 1 1.75 Win 1 0.8 6/27/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Rays -130 1 1.3 Loss -1.3 -0.5 6/28/2025 Team Total Under A's 4.5 -210 1 2.1 Loss -2.1 -2.6 6/28/2025 Team Total Under White Sox 3.5 -135 1 1.35 Win 1 -1.6 6/28/2025 First 5 Innings Run Line Brewers -0.5 -145 1 1.45 Win 1 -0.6 6/28/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Astros -115 1 1.15 Loss -1.15 -1.75 6/29/2025 First 5 Innings Run Line Brewers -0.5 -154 1 1.54 Loss -1.54 -3.29 6/29/2025 First 5 Innings Spread Blue Jays 0.5 -154 1 1.54 Win 1 -2.29 6/29/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Braves/Phillies 4.5 -160 1 1.6 Win 1 -1.29 6/30/2025 Team Total Under Diamondbacks 4.5 -195 1 1.95 Win 1 -0.29 6/30/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Red Sox -215 1 2.15 Win 1 0.71 6/30/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Rays/A's 4.5 -145 1 1.45 Loss -1.45 -0.74 7/1/2025 Total Under Phillies/Padres 9 -158 1 1.58 Push 0 -0.74 7/1/2025 First 5 Team Total Under Cardinals 1.5 -166 1 1.66 Win 1 0.26 7/1/2025 Team Total Under Orioles 3.5 -145 1 1.45 Win 1 1.26 7/2/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Angels -110 1 1.1 Win 1 2.26 7/2/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Brewers -175 1 1.75 Loss -1.75 0.51 7/2/2025 Moneyline Rangers -135 1 1.35 Win 1 1.51 7/3/2025 Moneyline Giants -114 1 1.14 Win 1 2.51 7/4/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Braves/Orioles 5.5 -180 1 1.8 Win 1 3.51 7/4/2025 Team Total Over Cubs 4.5 -140 1 1.4 Win 1 4.51 7/5/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Giants -200 1 2 Win 1 5.51 7/5/2025 Team Total Under Athletics 4.5 -190 1 1.9 Win 1 6.51 7/5/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Astros/Dodgers 4.5 -125 1 1.25 Loss -1.25 5.26 7/6/2025 Total Over Rockies/White Sox 11 -110 1 1.1 Loss -1.1 4.16 7/6/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Marlins/Brewers 4.5 -130 1 1.3 Win 1 5.16 7/7/2025 First 5 Innings Total Under Rangers/Angels 4.5 -188 1 1.88 Loss -1.88 3.28 7/10/2025 Moneyline Braves -182 1 1.82 Loss -1.82 1.46 7/10/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Mariners -160 1 1.6 Win 1 2.46 7/10/2025 First 5 Innings Moneyline Rays -115 1 1.15 Win 1 3.46
I'd look into how you're getting the bets graded, or just do them manually, it's only a few games a day. On a few days you did come back to recap your performance and you did correctly mention you had a 7 day win streak from 6/29 to 7/5.Leave a comment:
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7-11-2025
Tigers/Mariners F5 under 3.5 -130
Pirates/Twins F5 under 3.5 -140
Giants/Dodgers F5 under 4.5 -166
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7-10-2025
Braves ML -182
Seatte Mariners F5 ML -160
Rays F5 ML -115
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Are you using ChatGPT to grade the results for you? The results generally line up but it misclassified 5 bets in that table:
6/5 Giants ML Loss - Giants won
6/5 Pirates/Astros Under 7.5 - 10 runs
6/7 Astros/Guardians Under 7.5 - 8 runs, went over in extra innings
6/13 Royals ML Win, lost to Athletics
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