Final Ponzi Attempt by Creditwagering

[j-e-t-s jets]

jets learn how to quote a post


why would the stiff list be fake?

i sent them my ID with info blacked out if i would have stiffed them they would put it up?


i don't see why you guys think the list would be fake?

The ID pictures and names do not match.........the entire thing is a scam to scare people into paying. If they actually posted a real ID the website would be shut down overnight. They got away with it because it was all fake!! Even the email addresses they list for people are non-working email addresses. The entire CW scam will be exposed in a big way in the next few months.

And NO- I am not claiming to be an FBI informant or anything like that- but I am talking facts here. I fully expect the next 5 emails in this thread from Ben and his Shills to deny everything but all I can say is stay tuned..................

When you read about it you will believe it.

Nice try CW........a think a kindergarden kid could come up with a better scam...bunch of frauds.

[j-e-t-s jets]

Mothers, wives, girlfriends, grandmas of degenerates. All it takes is steal their DL from their purses for a few minutes and scan the picture and then put it back in the purse.

All fakes.......real pictures with fake names, cities, email addresses etc.

CW even had shills come on this site and others to say "I cant believe CW posted my picture on the stiffs list and called my work and neighbors etc.........ALL PART OF THE SCAM. If even one of those pictures had a real name the site would be shut down in hours.......no one ever could and that's why it took so long. All went well until they were exposed in the good old USA.

How many times do I need to explain this. Again- believe what you want. The story will be out soon.

[THEGREAT30]

Do you guys really want the truth?

I only bash them because they dont pay SBR? Geez that is weak

Could it be I bash them because they lied over and over about where they operate from which is inside the good ole USA? Could it be because we had industry experts break down their business model right here on the forum and tell everyone with 100% certainty they would never earn a profit? Could it be because they are slow paying now? Nahhhh can't be any of those insignificant reasons...

The bold portion says it all. I don't understand how they still stand and I am very curious as to see how many people(customers) go down with these guys. If the authorities care to know names and see records they will most definitely rat.

[Grandmaster B]

[tacomax]

j-e-t-s jets - some of the names/photos are people from SBR. Are you saying that Creditwagering created the ryanXL username at SBR, made 20,000 posts before putting his picture on the stiff list? I'm not saying that everything you're saying is not true, but at least some of the IDs have been proved to be true.

[joeybagadonuts]

All fakes.......real pictures with fake names, cities, email addresses etc.

CW even had shills come on this site and others to say "I cant believe CW posted my picture on the stiffs list and called my work and neighbors etc.........ALL PART OF THE SCAM. If even one of those pictures had a real name the site would be shut down in hours.......no one ever could and that's why it took so long. All went well until they were exposed in the good old USA.

How many times do I need to explain this. Again- believe what you want. The story will be out soon.

Interesting theory.

I had an 'issue' with CW that I won't go into here, but I did not stiff, so don't bother with that.

According to DacVietOctoRushMan there are 3 IDs of him and his cousins up on that page with real info...

[JBC77]

Do you guys really want the truth?

I only bash them because they dont pay SBR? Geez that is weak

Could it be I bash them because they lied over and over about where they operate from which is inside the good ole USA? Could it be because we had industry experts break down their business model right here on the forum and tell everyone with 100% certainty they would never earn a profit? Could it be because they are slow paying now? Nahhhh can't be any of those insignificant reasons...

John.....whats worse than the ponzi payout and an impossible business model, is whats going to happen to the reams of personal data and documentation thats been collected on the players. The info will be sold and over sold time and time again. Is anyone sure that the fine people who head this operation aren't five time felons who are going to be looking to screw as many as they can as the house of cards collapses around them. Who knows where your personal information will wind up. It's anyones guess. There could be fallout when the screen finally flashes game over on this one.

Do a little diggings folks. John came out here and warned people from day one, that this type of operation would be unable to be sustained. Care to take a guess what a mess C-Dub's cash flow statements look like when their main customer base probably maintains an unemployment rate of near 90%. Sorry, but I find this type of crap rather amusing, especially when industry insiders said stay away.

Sleep well boys and girls. Hopefully your drivers licenses don't wind up in some shady chop shop in Nigeria or Russia or some other 3rd world hell hole.

[frostno98]

Joke outfit. The only people that plays their are broke, have bad credit, planning to stiff, has already stiff, or all of the above.

[j-e-t-s jets]

j-e-t-s jets - some of the names/photos are people from SBR. Are you saying that Creditwagering created the ryanXL username at SBR, made 20,000 posts before putting his picture on the stiff list? I'm not saying that everything you're saying is not true, but at least some of the IDs have been proved to be true.

Like I said, in a few months all of the details will come out. To answer your question, I doubt any of the names are real. In fact, I'd guess 99% are fake. Don't put it past criminals to post for years in advance to set up the get rich quick scheme.......a few guys posting a few posts per day....doesn't take long. The advantage they had was the industry is not regulated and people depend on these forums for information. This was there best chance to set up the scheme.

All the posts we saw about calling employers, walking them to ATM machines, knocking on doors, all a bunch of BS. CW scheme was run by college kids and 2 broke wall street guys. Ben was the "brains" behind the operation and they hired at least 15-20 college kids looking to make a few dollars and pretend they were in the "mob".............all run from the good old United States. The only reason they can accept ** and ** overseas is becasue you can hire processors in 3rd world countries to pick up and send money...a lot of books do this. All banking was processed thru US banks.

Just wait and see...............

For the doubters....everyone is entitled to an opinion but you will be prooven wrong.

CW days are long over------1 final attempt thru the new "Promotion" to get some last minute funds to start defense case. Good luck boys, I look forward to seeing all of the names in the case once they are released.

[Winner_13]

Has creditwagering ever had 1 payout where they did not pay:?

They are now but just added 2 new processors supposedly
and are covering payout fees for customers who had to wait!!!!

They are only a d because they refused for sbr to see there operations.

[Winner_13]

Ask sbr jhon have there been any reported payouts where they completely don't pay?

[johncrud]

That dark skinned mama with a missing tooth made me laugh.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Ask sbr jhon have there been any reported payouts where they completely don't pay?

shill alert

[Winner_13]

lol no shill. thats funny
if you dont criticize your a shill.
No its just wierd cause ive played at sportsinteraction they didnt pay. and ive seen other agree
...but lets just see if SBR has anything about where they dont pay thats BS.
Anyways Ive won quite a bit met all the requirements as credit only player and they emailed me the same thing everyone else got.
And My payout will be processed latest jan.18 but there making sure no problem happens again.

[Winner_13]

adding two new processors supposably.
Also I dont think SBR knows what there talking about because there in business and doing well.

Only the squares bet there and the squares pay better than any sharps do!
REMEMBER THAT

[1st and Ten]

[smitch124]

I was paid last month by ** by credit wagering and I only play their contest. I don't even play at .com anymore, just sayin'...

[SBR_John]

adding two new processors supposably.
Also I dont think SBR knows what there talking about because there in business and doing well.

Only the squares bet there and the squares pay better than any sharps do!
REMEMBER THAT

Thats really not true.

Hey look if you want to play at a book operating in the states that has a money losing business model then this is your book. Our job here is warn folks that in our opinion this operation is not viable. Its not personal we just don't think a business model that has a 5% profit margin and a 10%(at least) of bad receivables(stiffs) is the safest place to play.

[nosniboR11]

john said it correct his OPINION only


this man is just jealous

[j-e-t-s jets]

Has creditwagering ever had 1 payout where they did not pay:?

They are now but just added 2 new processors supposedly
and are covering payout fees for customers who had to wait!!!!

They are only a d because they refused for sbr to see there operations.

Amazing how you joined SBR at the same time of the new processors...........joined January 2010......Hey Ben...Happy New Year. Let's see how many more SBR accounts you can come up with to defend your garbage operation that you call a book.

Get a life..........get a good lawyer- u will need one.

[BillyCostigan]

CW paid me. It took them about 3 weeks, but it took JustBet 6 weeks to pay me through Bankwire...and not just to pay me, but to process the payout. I ended up losing a couple grand of my withdrawal amount while waiting for them to process.

I can understand the skepticism but they have paid me, and if I lose, I will pay them. They're the ones taking on the majority of the risk with all of the stiffs out there. I can see where you're coming from Jets, but they've been good to me.

[KKoz9]

Have you noticed that it is always the ones who have never played there who are the ones with the loudest voices here criticizing them.

Makes no sense to me.

[StraitShooter]

Have you noticed that it is always the ones who have never played there who are the ones with the loudest voices here criticizing them.

Makes no sense to me.

Your damn right..If you own a home and it is on miami dade . gov public record you can be damn sure they will pay you

just the same punks that take 10 shots at them that have issues

I dont give a shit where they are located as long as they pay

I dont give a shit about their business model as long as they pay

since when were we concerned about a books well being..we just want to get paid today..who cares about a year from now

Those yellow rotten toothed british bastards at bet on sports, millineum, jaguar, mvp, rock island sports and bet the rock stole my fuken money, Do you think my data and ID were lovingly protected?

all it takes is one bad apple at any book to steal your shit..most these guys here panhandling for points aint worth 50 cents in real life anyways..there ID is useless

Bodog tooks months to pay this year..Bwahahahah..bodog becky my ass

I dont play at CW because I am funded at 20 other off shore joints..but I did a year ago and they sent me a card and reloaded every time I won

You can be damn sure those IDs are real

And yes Sam..those girls have never bet in their lives..just a punk who already stiffed em using his next best option

[poker_dummy101]

good post ss

[StraitShooter]

good post ss

sorry the Bengals screwed you out of 200 bucks monday night

I tried to pm you but you have not started a thread in a while and I could not find a post by you

you should have bet 50 bucks on Jets that night

oh well..very tough contest to win..you not only have to go 6-0 but you have to make your best bet positive juice

[poker_dummy101]

yea, i havent been posting as much lately.. thanks for the thought though.. i did make my best bet positive juice at +105 but his was +115.. oh well

[StraitShooter]

yea, i havent been posting as much lately.. thanks for the thought though.. i did make my best bet positive juice at +105 but his was +115.. oh well

yes I know..the real trick is to make your best bet the most pos juice avail..you did..and he did too..he screwed everyone good

the guy who went 6-0 and had 6 units was schooled as well..he learned his lesson for next year

[j-e-t-s jets]

ID's are fake- you will see for yourself. Believe what u want.

Everyone has a right to gamble wherever they want........just know what u are getting urself into.

happy new year to everyone.......let 2010 be a great year for all

[Winner_13]

Anyways i love sbr, and lets please not get personal keep emotions out.

Sbr_jhon i am on your side with what you do and your mission.
If i had your job i would not recommend ppl play there.
But whats cool is if you need a bankroll its the best!!!
If your following a paid capper and need to increase wager amounts its worth a shot!

[Winner_13]

ANYWAYS JETS CALLING ME A SHILL IS RETARDED.

LOL THERES TONS OF OTHER PPL WHO STICK UP FOR IT AND AGREE THAT ALTHOUGH THEY ARE IN SLOW PAY MODE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE PAYING.
AND COVERING WITHDRAWAL FEES WHICH ARE $40 FOR CHECK IN 1-2 DAYS.


ANYWAYS IF YOU GIVE ME 1 PERSON WHO DOES NOT GET PAID I WILL REST MY CASE AND SAY THIS IS A SCAM UNTIL THEN YOU GUYS SHOULD SHUT UP AND STOP ASSUMING.

GO ON FIND ME 1 PERSON THAT LEGITIMATELY DID NOT GET PAID.
they are only a D because they didnt let jhon check out thier operations.

[Winner_13]

I asked sbr_jhon if theyre were any reports of people who have not been paid. And he couldnt give me one
and neither can u j-e-t-s

are u that guy that made that song on utube?

[Winner_13]

Sbr jhon are you taking into account that they have no advertising costs.
Your a+ sportsbooks(which i play at)
how much do those books pay you and other sites? How much do they spend on marketing

......ive talked to ppl at cris and it costs about $500 to bring in a new customer

[tacomax]

Winner_13 - you might find you're less likely to be called a shill if you actually make a post which isn't defending CW. Of your 8 posts in the last 24 hours, every one of them has been in this thread and every one has been defending CW.

[Winner_13]

nah let em believe whatever they want.

Im supposed to be getting a withdrawal soon , il let you guys know how it goes if you so care.

Lol **** sportsinteraction though atleast you know me im not a shill for them lol!

[Winner_13]

its not like im defending CW.
ITS more like I dont agree with SBR Jhon or anyone else they have no evidence.
Making up BS theories that book is doing just fine.

Tell him to give me proof where theyre located and the reports from the "anaylsts" that say there business model is wrong.

STIFF PAGE IS THE BEST COLLECTOR IF U GOOGLE NAMES THEY SHOW UP and all that krap about stolen identitys you can find ppl that have thier pic on the net on the stiff page like the guy that made that utube song.

TELL THEM TO GIVE ME SOLID ANSWERS OR STFU AND quit confusing ppl.
they better than sportsinteraction atleast.