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  • Shawn01
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-23-05
    • 252

    #1
    What I've learned so far
    I've stated I'm new to sports betting, and I thought I'd share what I've learned in the month or so since I started this hobby.

    1. My first ever bet was Indy -16 over the Texans. I thought this was a sure thing and that Indy would win by three touchdowns. The score was tied at the half and Indy finally broke through later in the 3rd quarter to win the game by 18 and cover the spread. Even though I won that bet I learned that there are no sure things in sports betting.

    2. The people who make the lines at the sportsbooks know what they are doing. At first I believed I knew better because I felt my predictions of the outcomes would be more accurate. That was a stupid rookie mistake. These guys are a lot sharper than me and I realize that now. Their lines are right more than they are wrong.

    3. Betting is a crapshoot, but you can improve your chances of winning (or losing less) by being smart with your bets. If I'm not comfortable with a pick I won't make it, regardless of how many people are dropping dimes on it. I've already seen a majority of posters in this forum who are picking team X because it's viewed as a sound bet. But team X either loses or doesn't get in under the spread. The opinions of sharp bettors are worth considering, but following the crowd doesn't guarantee winning.

    4. Financial responsibility is essential if you want to be able to wager for the long-term. I have my entire bankroll riding this week, but if I lose it then that's okay with me. This is only a hobby I began on a whim. I never intended to do it for profit. Still, if I can somehow manage a 50% profit over my original starting bankroll (that's the magical line I set for myself) I will be discipline myself to bet not more than 1/2 of the total in any given week. I also know that dropping a single large bet on a longshot is not smart. I have a ML bet on Arizona to beat the Lions (Detroit is favored and at home), but it's only 1 unit and not a 3-4 unit "sucker bet". If that bet wins then I can smile and be thankful for the luck; if it loses then I'm not out more than I was willing to lose with it.

    5. Until such time as I am confident in my betting I will avoid parlays and teasers. While I understand how they work, I see them as a road to financial disaster at this point. Sure, they pay out much bigger, but until I have more experience at this I'm staying away from them because I feel they are a more advanced bet to make, versus straight bets. Also, because I don't follow the NBA or NHL I'm not betting on those sports. Maybe I will someday, but not now.

    6. Proposition bets are foolhardy. I don't mean that to insult anyone who plays them, but these seem to be so much more open to chance than betting winners and point spreads. Even or odd jersey number scores the first TD is as open to chance as a game of Bingo. At least in betting winners and spreads I can cite some data to support why I bet as I did (usually). Props are pure speculation.

    7. Gambling is an entity full of slimy scumbags. I already knew that before I began wagering, but it's been enforced since then. Touts, bad sportsbooks, bettors of questionable character in forums...you can find the dregs of society in the gambling community. Listen to people who have shown themselves to be credible but don't follow any one person or crowd.

    8. I don't know as much about this as I thought I did, and I probably never will know as much as I thought I would. At the end of the day betting is still mostly a game of chance. I can decrease my odds of losing (or increase odds of winning...take your pick) but ultimately it's out of my control and on any given Sunday, any given team can win (or fail to cover the spread).
  • mad
    SBR MVP
    • 08-31-05
    • 1278

    #2
    Some very valid points there Shawn. How do you feel about betting money lines?
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    • JoshW
      SBR MVP
      • 08-10-05
      • 3431

      #3
      Originally posted by Shawn01
      Financial responsibility is essential if you want to be able to wager for the long-term. I have my entire bankroll riding this week, but if I lose it then that's okay with me. This is only a hobby I began on a whim. I never intended to do it for profit. Still, if I can somehow manage a 50% profit over my original starting bankroll (that's the magical line I set for myself) I will be discipline myself to bet not more than 1/2 of the total in any given week.
      Good post all around. For someone having bet for such a short amount of time, you have quite a bit on insight. Since you don't mind losing your bankroll, the above analysis is cool, but if you get to the point you would mind, I would recommend betting no more than 2% of it on any game. Of course in order to avoid losing in the long term you have to pick winners too, but the 2% will keep chasing out of the way and give you a better shot.
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      • applepicks
        SBR Sharp
        • 10-07-05
        • 271

        #4
        Originally posted by lakerfan
        Good post all around. For someone having bet for such a short amount of time, you have quite a bit on insight. Since you don't mind losing your bankroll, the above analysis is cool, but if you get to the point you would mind, I would recommend betting no more than 2% of it on any game. Of course in order to avoid losing in the long term you have to pick winners too, but the 2% will keep chasing out of the way and give you a better shot.
        Couldn't of said it better than Lakerfan.APPLE
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        • why
          SBR Sharp
          • 08-10-05
          • 447

          #5
          Anyone who is willing to learn from mistakes will prosper in the long-run.

          Nice post, I think you will do fine with your new hobby.
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          • onlooker
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 08-10-05
            • 36572

            #6
            Excellent post Shawn. You have learn alot in such a short period time. Hope this weekend works out for you, dont want to see you leaving the game anytime soon.

            Lakerfan makes a great point, if it comes time for it, that could be a good thing to follow.

            GL this weekend.
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            • bigboydan
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-10-05
              • 55420

              #7
              Originally posted by why
              Anyone who is willing to learn from mistakes will prosper in the long-run.
              thats perty much sums it all up right there.
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              • Shawn01
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-23-05
                • 252

                #8
                Mad, I may be approaching money line bets the wrong way but I will use them if I think the dog will win. I made a ML bet on the Cardinals to beat the Lions this week. I made it ML instead of a straight spread bet because it pays out more. I will also consider a ML bet for very tight point spreads (2 or less). I figure the chances of the dog winning by 1 point is so small that I might as well bet the ML. Is it really a higher risk with such a tight spread? I don't think so, but if I'm wrong about my views someone please feel free to correct me.

                Hmmm. There is a chance that I may be able to add to my bankroll, even if I get soaked this weekend. I just might be able to convince my beautiful wife to let me have a tiny bit of back pay once our labor contract is finally settled (we've been negotiating since April for crying out loud). Back pay would be in the neighborhood of 1300+ hours of straight pay; I don't know how many overtime hours I have that would also be included. At any rate, I may be able to pinch a bit of that as mad money, with the rest going into our savings.
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                • Senator7
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-20-05
                  • 1559

                  #9
                  Great post! People have lost a lot more money than you have learning such simple facts.
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                  • Shawn01
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 10-23-05
                    • 252

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lakerfan
                    Since you don't mind losing your bankroll, the above analysis is cool, but if you get to the point you would mind, I would recommend betting no more than 2% of it on any game. Of course in order to avoid losing in the long term you have to pick winners too, but the 2% will keep chasing out of the way and give you a better shot.
                    9. If I can grow my bankroll to 50% above what I began with then I will bet no more than 2% of it on any one game. (thanks for the tip Lakersfan)

                    What is the rule of financial responsibility on total wagers pending at any given time....is it no more than half of your total bankroll? I thought that was what I had read in more than one article on betting but I may have remembered wrong or misunderstood. To be honest, if I had a bankroll of 50K I would never have 25K riding on pending bets, but that's me. Actually, if I grow my bankroll to the magic line I probably wouldn't risk that much at any given time either.
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                    • Quarm
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 10-03-05
                      • 313

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Shawn01
                      7. Gambling is an entity full of slimy scumbags. I already knew that before I began wagering, but it's been enforced since then. Touts, bad sportsbooks, bettors of questionable character in forums...
                      AHA, you did read some of raider´s posts here...rofl :-P
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                      • raiders72001
                        Senior Member
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 11127

                        #12
                        Quarm- Why don't you tell us your gambling methods so that we don't make the same mistake. I'd hate for anyone to dig themself into the whole that you bury yourself in every week.
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                        • newb411breaker19
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 08-21-05
                          • 421

                          #13
                          agree with lakers, risking your entire bankroll in one week is suicidal, but i guess if it's just a hobby then its alright. Per play 2 percent should be a maximum if you are going to be a grinder, meaning you'll make 1000 plus plays in a year best of luck to ya
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                          • Shawn01
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 10-23-05
                            • 252

                            #14
                            Quarm and Raiders, you two need to meet and arm wrestle or something.

                            Newb411, thanks for enforcing that tip. Right now I'm only planning on betting on football. I don't follow MLB (Major League Boredom) or the NBA. Well, I might lay a few wagers on NCAA hoops, but football is my favorite sport to watch and bet on and the one I know the best.

                            Here's hoping I can increase my roll and make this a long-term hobby. Thanks again one and all for wishing me luck and for the tips.
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                            • raiders72001
                              Senior Member
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 11127

                              #15
                              Shawn- GL with your plays.
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                              • onlooker
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 36572

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Shawn01
                                I don't follow MLB (Major League Boredom)
                                You should this upcoming season. I feel that sport is one of if not the biggest money making sports you can bet on.
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                                • slacker00
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-06-05
                                  • 12262

                                  #17
                                  Great post, Shawn1.

                                  I'm also a noob sports bettor. I think I started posting here around the same time as you did. I noticed a lot of the same things. But I'll restate the biggest points, that I've learned.

                                  1. Have fun. (It seems obvious, but sometimes I get caught up in it all and get frustrated, forgetting that I started this just as a fun hobby.)

                                  2. Betting against the book is tougher than it seems. When I made my first bets, I was like you, Shawn, I looked at the same line (Indy -17 at Houston) and thought there was no way Houston could cover that. Well, the guys that set the lines are a lot smarter than I am. I'm still grappling with this, philosophically. It takes some extra work such as shopping lines, using bonuses, etc. Picking the games is almost the least important part of a winning strategy.

                                  3. Bankroll management. Coming into this, I felt this was my biggest strength. But, I still feel a tremendous urge to bet outside my "bankroll" that I set for myself. I know I set a very small bankroll for this season, because I'm just "playing around", so the dollar values are really minuscule. But, I should still have the discipline to "carry through" no matter if I am betting $1 or $1000. I keep slipping into a "martingale-eque" strategy, subconsciously, trying to bet bigger to win back my losses. Discipline in sticking to a betting system is really tough for some odd reason. I think it's lack of patience. Rather than playing a dozen bets spread over a weekend, I see one game and want to jump all over it. My mind tells me to diversify, but my gut says "go big or go home". I've got to listen to my mind, more.
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                                  • bigboydan
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 55420

                                    #18
                                    baseball was ok for me last season, i ended up winning 76 units. i still say hoops is a bigger money maker though onlooker.
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