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  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 60686

    #1226
    Originally posted by GoldenBears
    I have read like 100 posts in this thread, and I almost can't believe what I am reading. 5dimes is refunding live futures bets which are massively up in equity, but they are not refunding losing bets? So if for all the NBA title bets people placed, they're refunding bets on the 6 teams remaining but keeping all the cash from the bets on the 24 teams that have been eliminated?

    Surely they can't do this and expect to stay in business, right?
    That was never the case.

    They are refunding all unsettled bets, including obvious losers. In fact I would guess most of the requests for refund already have been for that type of bet.



    Check the Update Thread posted by "SBR Forum".

    We are still hoping/expecting that players will all be treated fairly as far as futures go.
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    • RedApples
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-02-18
      • 721

      #1227
      Originally posted by GoldenBears
      I have read like 100 posts in this thread, and I almost can't believe what I am reading. 5dimes is refunding live futures bets which are massively up in equity, but they are not refunding losing bets? So if for all the NBA title bets people placed, they're refunding bets on the 6 teams remaining but keeping all the cash from the bets on the 24 teams that have been eliminated?

      Surely they can't do this and expect to stay in business, right?
      Originally posted by Optional

      That was never the case.

      They are refunding all unsettled bets, including obvious losers. In fact I would guess most of the requests for refund already have been for that type of bet.



      Check the Update Thread posted by "SBR Forum".

      We are still hoping/expecting that players will all be treated fairly as far as futures go.
      Optional, when he wrote 'losing bets', I'm pretty sure he meant bets that ALREADY LOST. I'm actually pretty positive thats what he meant because he qualified it by stating they are 'keeping the cash from the other 24 teams'. It looks like you misread that as 'obvious losers' ie bets with negative equity.

      They aren't refunding bets that already lost. They ARE refunding all bets currently open. Thus stealing from players by not paying a winner but collecting on losers.
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 60686

        #1228
        I just answered his question... "5dimes is refunding live futures bets which are massively up in equity, but they are not refunding losing bets?"

        And I don't think he meant what you say, I think he meant what he said.

        But either way my answer to him stands as 100% correct.

        Sheesh.... what is your beef with me that anything i say you MUST disagree with RedApples??
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        • TheGuesser
          SBR MVP
          • 08-10-05
          • 2714

          #1229
          For some reason, today Betanysports cancelled my 2 NFL Futures I brought over from 5Dimes, but has left the Election future(so far). All are for extremely small amounts so it's no biggie, but weird. One of the NFL Futures has better odds at BetAnySports than 5Dimes had a month ago, one didn't. And they also cancelled an NFL Future I bet with THEM on my first day in, because they had a better number than 5Dimes(they still do). I settled it all on chat hopefully, and have rebet the better number again, there. Just something to look for, for all transferred players.
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          • Hap
            SBR High Roller
            • 10-20-07
            • 209

            #1230
            Originally posted by Optional
            That was never the case.
            They are refunding all unsettled bets, including obvious losers. In fact I would guess most of the requests for refund already have been for that type of bet.
            Check the Update Thread posted by "SBR Forum".
            We are still hoping/expecting that players will all be treated fairly as far as futures go.
            Just jumping in here, repeating that two political bets that are likely to be losers, but not 100% for sure yet, were graded as losers two days ago after I requested refunding of all bets. I am still waiting for refunds on others, many that are likely winners. So they do not seem to be "refunding all unsettled bets including obvious losers."
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            • Scarface63
              SBR Sharp
              • 02-09-14
              • 260

              #1231
              Update: I received a refund on my election bet. Also my 4 team parlay with the 4th leg was graded as a 3 team winning parlay. Still don’t have enough to withdraw, so gonna try tomorrow so I can request a payout Monday
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              • johnnyvegas13
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 05-21-15
                • 27780

                #1232
                Lakers futures still pending here ...
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                • scottgodson1985
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 11-17-12
                  • 347

                  #1233
                  84 hours no payout, havent even reviewed the payout, no email no phone verifictaion nothing
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                  • loser711
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 06-20-19
                    • 108

                    #1234
                    Soccer parlays limited to 100 bucs at Heritage = Chicken SHEET

                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Heritage the top book now BY FAR every aspect
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                    • Hugo de Naranja
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-14-16
                      • 14140

                      #1235
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      I just answered his question... "5dimes is refunding live futures bets which are massively up in equity, but they are not refunding losing bets?"

                      And I don't think he meant what you say, I think he meant what he said.

                      But either way my answer to him stands as 100% correct.

                      Sheesh.... what is your beef with me that anything i say you MUST disagree with RedApples??
                      I do have some futures that I'm concerned about but no pending ones with positive equity have been cancelled as of yet.
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                      • Skookum
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 01-16-19
                        • 428

                        #1236
                        99 hours and counting. BTC payout requested. No $$$ yet.
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                        • nbpayton
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 08-23-12
                          • 92

                          #1237
                          Originally posted by Skookum
                          99 hours and counting. BTC payout requested. No $$$ yet.
                          Same here should get approved soon i would think
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 60686

                            #1238
                            Originally posted by Hap

                            Just jumping in here, repeating that two political bets that are likely to be losers, but not 100% for sure yet, were graded as losers two days ago after I requested refunding of all bets. I am still waiting for refunds on others, many that are likely winners. So they do not seem to be "refunding all unsettled bets including obvious losers."
                            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                            I do have some futures that I'm concerned about but no pending ones with positive equity have been cancelled as of yet.
                            I'll be concerned about futures until we hear something more too.

                            Hopefully soon.
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                            • Hugo de Naranja
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-16
                              • 14140

                              #1239
                              The latest I've heard from customer support this afternoon was

                              "We are just refunding the risk amounts. We are not doing any other adjustments on top of that."
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                              • RoyBacon
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-21-05
                                • 37074

                                #1240
                                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                The latest I've heard from customer support this afternoon was

                                "We are just refunding the risk amounts. We are not doing any other adjustments on top of that."
                                Tony is turning in his grave in disgust. Whoever made this decision at 5D is a retarded idiot.

                                Pay us what are bets are worth! This ain't rocket science!
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                                • Doug tushyterror
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-03-12
                                  • 4172

                                  #1241
                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                  I'll be concerned about futures until we hear something more too.

                                  Hopefully soon.
                                  Hey Opti...just wondering where the gosh darn heck did my post go about encouraging others to charge back their recent cc deposits that I made at 5:34 PM?..Hmm..Let me guess 5dimes shill, perma ban coming in 3-2-1...
                                  Last edited by Doug tushyterror; 09-12-20, 06:50 PM.
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                                  • JohnGalt2341
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-31-09
                                    • 9138

                                    #1242
                                    Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                    Tony is turning in his grave in disgust. Whoever made this decision at 5D is a retarded idiot.

                                    Pay us what are bets are worth! This ain't rocket science!
                                    This sounds good in theory. But what are they supposed to do when your bet goes down in price... ask you to pay more? Let's say I bet on a future that is still unsettled and I bought it at +105 for $100 but it is currently at +4000. If this were the case i would be very lucky that I am getting refunded. I don't think it would be fair for them to ask me to now pay up on the +4000.

                                    I agree that all this shit sucks but I don't think it's as simple as most people think. Or I am missing something here?
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                                    • crinkledaces
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-06-09
                                      • 632

                                      #1243



                                      Originally posted by Doug tushyterror
                                      Hey Opti...just wondering where the gosh darn heck did my post go about encouraging others to charge back their recent cc deposits that I made at 5:34 PM?..Hmm..Let me guess 5dimes shill, perma ban coming in 3-2-1...
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                                      • bfl1000
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 03-28-11
                                        • 173

                                        #1244
                                        Originally posted by Skookum
                                        99 hours and counting. BTC payout requested. No $$$ yet.
                                        Wow 99 hours. 72 for me. Maybe they going to stall on the payout until they pass it on to the mysterious Claims administrator.
                                        Hopefully we get payout b4 Xmas.
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                                        • Skidcom
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-17-06
                                          • 1796

                                          #1245
                                          My Chat....so far.....



                                          Lexi 18:16

                                          Welcome to the 5Dimes Group Live Chat. Keep in mind the account & 4-digit PIN combination must be provided if the information you are requesting is specific to your account only.




                                          Good evening! My name is Lexi. I'll be more than glad to assist you. May I have your account and PIN, please?






                                          James Booth 18:17

                                          You've never asked for it in 20 years








                                          Lexi 18:17

                                          Hi James, thanks for the information.




                                          How may I help you?






                                          James Booth 18:18

                                          My payout was rejected. I am very sad that you are kicking me out. I am also concerned about my futures bets. What happens to those?








                                          Lexi 18:19

                                          I see your payout is pending. And we already sent you the confirmation email.




                                          Did you already reply it?




                                          If you have an open bet that will not be settled until after September 25th we can offer a refund.






                                          James Booth 18:19

                                          It says I have to call you or chat with you




                                          What do you need from me?








                                          Lexi 18:20

                                          You need to reply the confirmation email we sent you.




                                          And about the refund, let me know if you want the refund of the future wagers and I will talk to Wagering Department.






                                          James Booth 18:22

                                          I don't understand. It says I had 48 hours to respond. It is past 48 hours. It says you need to call me. OK. Can you call me now? Yes I want a refund of the futures wagers. However, one of them has a good chance to win. Can I let it ride?








                                          Lexi 18:22

                                          Yes, I see we sent you the confirmation email today, did you reply it?




                                          Your payout is not rejected James. I see it is still pending and you need to reply the confirmation email.




                                          We will void the wagers that have action after Sept 21st. And you have time to request a Payout from now until Sept 24th.






                                          James Booth 18:23

                                          Do I just click and reply? I don't understand. It says I need to call or chat?








                                          Lexi 18:23

                                          Could you please send me a screenshot about it?






                                          James Booth 18:23

                                          On Sep 10, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Payouts <payouts@5dimes.eu> wrote: Dear James, We need to perform a phone verification as confirmation required to process your current Bitcoin payout request. Please let us know what is the best time to call you in order to complete this phone verification, so we can process your payment. Alternatively, you can also contact us from your phone number on file to complete the process. We will be waiting for your response in order to proceed with your payment. If we haven’t received a response within 48 hours of sending this message, your payout will be automatically rejected. For more assistance in this or any other matter, feel free to contact us via Live Help or by dialing our toll free number 1-800-430-5896. Regards, Kendall Payout Team








                                          Lexi 18:24

                                          Thanks, that email was 2 days ago. We sent you a new email today.




                                          4 hrs ago.




                                          Did you receive it?




                                          Are we still connected?






                                          James Booth 18:26

                                          Yes. Who was the sender?








                                          Lexi 18:26

                                          What do you mean?






                                          James Booth 18:27

                                          I can't find the email. Was it from "payouts" "5Dimes" Customer Service" someone else? I get hundreds of emails








                                          Lexi 18:27

                                          payouts@5dimes.eu




                                          bitcoin@5dimes.eu






                                          James Booth 18:29

                                          No only email was from 09/10 The one I sent








                                          Lexi 18:29

                                          Are you able to wait 4 minutes? I will check this with Payout Team.






                                          James Booth 18:29

                                          Yes I can. Thank you








                                          Lexi 18:34

                                          Thanks for holding. My pleasure!




                                          We will send you the confirmation email again.






                                          James Booth 18:34

                                          Cool








                                          Lexi 18:34

                                          So, you will need to reply it.




                                          Great!






                                          James Booth 18:34

                                          Cool








                                          Lexi 18:34

                                          Perfect.






                                          James Booth 18:36

                                          I would like all my futures bets run. 637817268-1 7/7/2020 12:11:14 AM $25.00 $1,000.00 Pending 7/23/2020 8:05:00 PM Baseball MLB . World Series - San Diego Padres +4,000 637268565-1 7/3/2020 8:04:16 PM $20.00 $121.00 Pending 9/13/2020 1:00:00 PM Football NFL . NFC North Division - Detroit Lions +605 637268565-2 7/3/2020 8:04:16 PM $10.00 $180.00 Pending 9/13/2020 1:00:00 PM Football NFL . Reach NFC Conference Final - Detroit Lions +1,800 637268565-3 7/3/2020 8:04:16 PM $20.00 $360.00 Pending 9/13/2020 1:00:00 PM Football NFL Regular Season Props - Awards AP Offensive Rookie of the Year - D'Andre Swift +1,800* 615691107-1 2/19/2020 10:11:39 PM $5.00 $400.00 Pending 2/20/2020 6:00:00 AM Golf PGA 2020 Majors & Specials . US Masters 2020 - Cameron Smith +8,000* 615688483-1 2/19/2020 10:06:12 PM $10.00 $800.00 Pending 2/20/2020 6:00:00 AM Golf PGA 2020 Majors & Specials . PGA Tour Money List 2020 - Rickie Fowler +8,000* 612860919-1 2/4/2020 9:58:01 PM $20.00 $1,600.00 Pending 9/10/2020 8:15:00 PM Football NFL . Super Bowl LV - Detroit Lions +8,000* $110.00 $4,461.00








                                          Lexi 18:37

                                          Awesome!




                                          Wagering Department has been informed. You will get the refund as soon as possible, they are working on it now.




                                          Your account is on the queue. Due to the high volume of demand it can take up to next week for all the pending wagers to be refunded.






                                          James Booth 18:38

                                          What about the SD Padres. It is a good bet. They have a chance?








                                          Lexi 18:38

                                          Wagering Department will check your account and see which bets are eligible for the refund.






                                          James Booth 18:38

                                          ok. Haven;t received the email yet...








                                          Lexi 18:38

                                          Did you check on spam?






                                          James Booth 18:39

                                          Just checked. Nothing








                                          Lexi 18:41

                                          Alright. Are you able to wait 4 minutes?






                                          James Booth 18:42

                                          Absolutely








                                          Lexi 18:42

                                          Thanks for holding. We sent you again the email.






                                          James Booth 18:44

                                          checking...




                                          nothing....








                                          Lexi 18:46

                                          Are you able to wait 4 minutes?






                                          James Booth 18:46

                                          Yes. I confirm that I want my balacne sent to me. Why the emails?








                                          Lexi 18:47

                                          Thanks for holding. If you have not received the email in this moment, you will need to update your email on file.




                                          I see you have balance, so the only way to change your account information is to send an email to info@5dimes.eu including your name, account number & pin. Please attach a pictured ID, the information you currently have on file (your full name, your city, address, state and zip code, phone number, email, gender and date of birth) and finally the new information that you'd like to edit. This email must be sent from the email we have on file.






                                          James Booth 18:48

                                          I received numerous emails from you over multiple years. What address are you using?








                                          Lexi 18:48

                                          Please confirm your email on file.




                                          And we sent you the email from payouts@5dimes.eu and bitcoin@5dimes.eu






                                          James Booth 18:50










                                          Lexi 18:51

                                          Yes, that is the email we have on file.






                                          James Booth 18:53

                                          Only email I have received is from 09/10




                                          Dear James, We need to perform a phone verification as confirmation required to process your current Bitcoin payout request. Please let us know what is the best time to call you in order to complete this phone verification, so we can process your payment. Alternatively, you can also contact us from your phone number on file to complete the process. We will be waiting for your response in order to proceed with your payment. If we haven’t received a response within 48 hours of sending this message, your payout will be automatically rejected. For more assistance in this or any other matter, feel free to contact us via Live Help or by dialing our toll free number 1-800-430-5896. Regards, Kendall Payout Team 5Dimes Group








                                          Lexi 18:54

                                          Oh, I understand sir. But we sent you a lot of emails today about the confirmation email.




                                          So, please update your email on file, make a new request and we will give you priority.






                                          James Booth 18:56

                                          Why should I have to change my profile? Its worked for years and you sent me an email 2 days ago? Why are you making it so difficult to cash out a loyal customer who has been with you for 20 years?








                                          Lexi 18:57

                                          Sir, because you are telling me that you are not receiving our email and we sent you a lot of emails today.






                                          James Booth 18:59

                                          Fine. I'll change my profile. But I know that once I do that, you'll delay my payout and make me start over. Xhanging my profile now.....








                                          Lexi 19:00

                                          We will give you priority, sir.




                                          I see you have balance, so the only way to change your account information is to send an email to info@5dimes.eu including your name, account number & pin. Please attach a pictured ID, the information you currently have on file (your full name, your city, address, state and zip code, phone number, email, gender and date of birth) and finally the new information that you'd like to edit. This email must be sent from the email we have on file.






                                          James Booth 19:01

                                          It won't let me change my email. It is greyed out and uneditable

                                          Read







                                          Lexi 19:02

                                          I see you have balance, so the only way to change your account information is to send an email to info@5dimes.eu including your name, account number & pin. Please attach a pictured ID, the information you currently have on file (your full name, your city, address, state and zip code, phone number, email, gender and date of birth) and finally the new information that you'd like to edit. This email must be sent from the email we have on file.






                                          James Booth 19:02

                                          You have got to be kidding me

                                          Delivered








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                                          • RoyBacon
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 09-21-05
                                            • 37074

                                            #1246
                                            Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                            This sounds good in theory. But what are they supposed to do when your bet goes down in price... ask you to pay more? Let's say I bet on a future that is still unsettled and I bought it at +105 for $100 but it is currently at +4000. If this were the case i would be very lucky that I am getting refunded. I don't think it would be fair for them to ask me to now pay up on the +4000.

                                            I agree that all this shit sucks but I don't think it's as simple as most people think. Or I am missing something here?

                                            Are you fugging serious?

                                            Aren't you the libtard fugger that pretended to be smart in the political forum????
                                            A +105 that drops to +4000 is probably worth $.002 or whatever the math works out to. They are are fugging bookies. They know how to calculate odds.
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                                            • ksufan19
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 10-08-08
                                              • 9

                                              #1247
                                              Got my presidential election future refunded today. Originally requested through email Tuesday night. They emailed me Wed afternoon for my pin. I emailed right back. So took 3 days from that point. It was my only pending future.
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                                              • johnnyvegas13
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 05-21-15
                                                • 27780

                                                #1248
                                                Originally posted by ksufan19
                                                Got my presidential election future refunded today. Originally requested through email Tuesday night. They emailed me Wed afternoon for my pin. I emailed right back. So took 3 days from that point. It was my only pending future.
                                                Nice glad to hear
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                                                • illini
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 08-07-10
                                                  • 54

                                                  #1249
                                                  My payout went through yesterday afternoon, hoping yours comes soon.
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                                                  • Nittany Lion
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-14-10
                                                    • 1639

                                                    #1250
                                                    Submitted my payout request on Tuesday at 12pm so coming up on 5 days/120 hours here. I called 5Dimes the other day to make sure there were no holdups and preverify so they didn't have to call me. They said I would receive an email within 48 hours and I'd have to respond to it with my account info and BTC address. Well I've checked my junk folder/inbox and no email yet. I guess if nothing happens by tomorrow I will call or live chat them again.
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82478

                                                      #1251
                                                      Looks like they are having liquidity issues. US players on a bank run to ger cash out.
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                                                      • 70'sMan
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 02-12-12
                                                        • 744

                                                        #1252
                                                        Requested Monday about 9:30pm est Received last night. No call just an email requesting confirmation. Not sure why no call although I just did a withdrawal a couple of weeks ago. That was roughly half. Tomorrow I will request for the bets that have settled during the week.
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                                                        • Brock Landers
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 06-30-08
                                                          • 45360

                                                          #1253
                                                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                          Looks like they are having liquidity issues. US players on a bank run to ger cash out.
                                                          WTF are you talking about??

                                                          Liquidity issues??
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                                                          • barry4545
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 09-25-10
                                                            • 26

                                                            #1254
                                                            Received email verification for bitcoin Payout today, as well as email for check payout. Does anyone know if bitcoin is unlimited? Can I request one after another or is it like the checks and one every 7 days.
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                                                            • ABEHONEST
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 06-27-09
                                                              • 9470

                                                              #1255
                                                              Originally posted by barry4545
                                                              Received email verification for bitcoin Payout today, as well as email for check payout. Does anyone know if bitcoin is unlimited? Can I request one after another or is it like the checks and one every 7 days.
                                                              I hear it's unlimited right now but you'll pay the juice.
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                                                              • SBR Forum
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 12-02-06
                                                                • 4559

                                                                #1256
                                                                Originally posted by barry4545
                                                                Received email verification for bitcoin Payout today, as well as email for check payout. Does anyone know if bitcoin is unlimited? Can I request one after another or is it like the checks and one every 7 days.
                                                                5Dimes told us their normal internal limits and frequency rules have been waived. This was to accommodate larger balances and also so that everyone could get paid before the deadline. It is also posted here on their FAQ. Somewhat vaguely worded but bitcoin should not have the same "payment method restriction" as checks. Request another one and let us know.

                                                                Q. Will you allow higher limits on withdrawals for customers with large account balances?
                                                                A. Payouts with higher limits and frequency are allowed, only subject to each payment method's limits and restrictions.
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                                                                • Tbe123123
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 09-09-20
                                                                  • 36

                                                                  #1257
                                                                  I'm at about 96 hours now, with no email. I did call today to confirm that they did for the phone verification for me, and the representative confirmed that it was done, and that I just have to wait for the email. I'll give it another day before calling again.

                                                                  I will say the phone conversations with the representatives there have gone smoothly and they've been helpful in terms of answering any questions that I've had. Still very frustrated and disappointed in how futures (especially NBA futures) are being handled right now, but at this point I at least want to get my other money out of there.
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                                                                  • milwaukee mike
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 08-22-07
                                                                    • 26914

                                                                    #1258
                                                                    Originally posted by Tbe123123
                                                                    I'm at about 96 hours now, with no email. I did call today to confirm that they did for the phone verification for me, and the representative confirmed that it was done, and that I just have to wait for the email. I'll give it another day before calling again.

                                                                    I will say the phone conversations with the representatives there have gone smoothly and they've been helpful in terms of answering any questions that I've had. Still very frustrated and disappointed in how futures (especially NBA futures) are being handled right now, but at this point I at least want to get my other money out of there.
                                                                    my sentiments exactly

                                                                    at least on the division futures 5dimes was more than generous... grading the winners as winners and refunding all the losers... so the people claiming they are total thieves have a bit of selective memory there
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                                                                    • ABEHONEST
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 06-27-09
                                                                      • 9470

                                                                      #1259
                                                                      Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                      my sentiments exactly

                                                                      at least on the division futures 5dimes was more than generous... grading the winners as winners and refunding all the losers... so the people claiming they are total thieves have a bit of selective memory there
                                                                      I'm lost on this statement?
                                                                      I suppose you mean straight wagers being graded? And no parlays being graded?

                                                                      And losers being refunded? Are they now Santa Claus?
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                                                                      • milwaukee mike
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 08-22-07
                                                                        • 26914

                                                                        #1260
                                                                        Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                                        I'm lost on this statement?
                                                                        I suppose you mean straight wagers being graded? And no parlays being graded?

                                                                        And losers being refunded? Are they now Santa Claus?
                                                                        if you had the milwaukee bucks to win the central division, they graded it a win
                                                                        if you had any other team, (even though all of them except ind) were mathematically eliminated, they graded it as a refund
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