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  • pimike
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 03-23-08
    • 37139

    #491
    Originally posted by TheGuesser
    I hated their statement on the "administrator". It should have said definitively the administrator will pay out your balance in full, PERIOD, rather than the fuzzy language of the administrator will "seek to deliver the funds" to the account holder. That brings up nightmares of BOS and getting 4 cents on the dollar from the 3rd party administrator years later. They should fix that to at least inspire more confidence.

    Yes that caught my attention. No promise just maybe an attempt.

    Get it now
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    • gobucks
      SBR MVP
      • 01-15-09
      • 1287

      #492
      Thanks PMike. It just doesn't seem fair that I deposit on the 6th, they announce I have to get out on the 7th and then they still require a 1 time rollover.
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65086

        #493
        Originally posted by gobucks
        Thanks PMike. It just doesn't seem fair that I deposit on the 6th, they announce I have to get out on the 7th and then they still require a 1 time rollover.
        how did you deposit?

        im not checking thread

        if by bitcoin, you might be fukked
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        • gobucks
          SBR MVP
          • 01-15-09
          • 1287

          #494
          It was bitcoin
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          • pimike
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 03-23-08
            • 37139

            #495
            Originally posted by gobucks
            Thanks PMike. It just doesn't seem fair that I deposit on the 6th, they announce I have to get out on the 7th and then they still require a 1 time rollover.
            Agree

            No rollover should be required
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            • EVPlus
              SBR MVP
              • 04-07-12
              • 1111

              #496
              Originally posted by gobucks
              I deposited about $ 1,000 on 9-6-20. I am reduced juice so no bonus requested or given. On 9-7-20 they announce that US customers need to get funds out by 9-25. So on 9-7-20 I make a request for my available balance (will deal with ungraded futures later). Today- I get this message-

              We received your withdrawal request. However it was rejected due to the fact that you are missing to complete the mandatory one-time rollover required for your deposit(s) (Rollover amounts for each wager are based on the least amount of risk or win in each selection). The total rollover required for your deposit(s) (including the last deposit) is $957.73 and you are still missing $907.73.
              I haven't played 5d for a while but I was curious about this as everyone who deposits has at least 1x requirement.

              I posed this question here but didn't get a reply. So I emailed 5d and they informed me that a person can withdraw his balance for an "administrative fee." I didn't bother to ask what that fee is. It's most likely a percentage.

              Something you might want to ask them about. I absolutely despise being rushed in my betting to complete roll over as it can easily lead to poor decision making.
              Last edited by EVPlus; 09-08-20, 04:19 PM. Reason: clarify
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              • gobucks
                SBR MVP
                • 01-15-09
                • 1287

                #497
                Originally posted by pimike
                Agree

                No rollover should be required
                Well- the payout team they are operating as usual until the 21rst so I have until then to meet rollover requirement. Fuk me. Guess if I will be joining anything they get going in the US.
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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83691

                  #498
                  Just calm down people let's see how this plays out. We got time, no need to hit the panic button just yet.. Seems like 5dimes is trying to work this out and payout for now..
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                  • pimike
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 03-23-08
                    • 37139

                    #499
                    Originally posted by gobucks
                    Well- the payout team they are operating as usual until the 21rst so I have until then to meet rollover requirement. Fuk me. Guess if I will be joining anything they get going in the US.
                    Wait, it you don’t roll it by then they still have to pay out. For there would be no way to complete that roll.
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                    • Microphone
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-08-08
                      • 2950

                      #500
                      Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                      Guys I would not worry about getting money

                      even guy w 10k +

                      the issue here is futures being settled right and fair


                      I'm the guys with big 5 digit balance and sorry I'm equally concerned.
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                      • soobv
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 05-31-16
                        • 69

                        #501
                        Originally posted by Microphone
                        I'm the guys with big 5 digit balance and sorry I'm equally concerned.
                        Lets try to give benefit of the doubt here. I also have a substantial balance there tied up in futures way above 10k that I'm trying to get refunded. It's a sweat for sure but if they didn't plan to pay out they wouldn't have even announced this. It would have been just them closing up shop one day. If they screw over people with big balances any future plans they have will be screwed over. so from a business standpoint everything they are doing indicates they plan on paying and when they do come back people like us will bring back the heavy action to them.
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 60698

                          #502
                          Originally posted by gobucks

                          Well- the payout team they are operating as usual until the 21rst so I have until then to meet rollover requirement. Fuk me. Guess if I will be joining anything they get going in the US.
                          If you havent rolled it over by then they will pay you out anyway after that date.
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                          • Slowbalt
                            Restricted User
                            • 07-24-19
                            • 136

                            #503
                            Originally posted by pimike
                            Good way to have serious problems. Answer no not at same book

                            5 Dimes doesn't give a shit about that.

                            I hedge on their site all the time.
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                            • hmdingshma
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 01-15-14
                              • 14

                              #504
                              Originally posted by Slowbalt
                              What do you all want them to do? Keep the wager live and then not let you cash out since its past the deadline?
                              I would like them to honor the bets they took and just pay me after the deadline. The deadline is just an arbitrary thing they came up with anyway. I never would've placed the futures with them if I knew they would just be cancelled later.
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                              • johnnyvegas13
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 05-21-15
                                • 27782

                                #505
                                Originally posted by hmdingshma
                                I would like them to honor the bets they took and just pay me after the deadline. The deadline is just an arbitrary thing they came up with anyway. I never would've placed the futures with them if I knew they would just be cancelled later.
                                agree but at this point I’ll b happy to get my wager back not mad I lost chance of winning
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                                • Slowbalt
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 07-24-19
                                  • 136

                                  #506
                                  Originally posted by hmdingshma
                                  I would like them to honor the bets they took and just pay me after the deadline. The deadline is just an arbitrary thing they came up with anyway. I never would've placed the futures with them if I knew they would just be cancelled later.
                                  I would be worried about getting paid out past the deadline.

                                  This is just an all around rocky situation.
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                                  • hank_kingsley
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 07-08-20
                                    • 116

                                    #507
                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                    Just calm down people let's see how this plays out. We got time, no need to hit the panic button just yet.. Seems like 5dimes is trying to work this out and payout for now..
                                    As anyone that's ever dealt with a failing business will tell you....time is not your friend. Your best bet is to get out what you can as quickly as possible because there may well not be a tomorrow. One in the hand is worth at least 8-10 in the bush in this case.

                                    And yes, it does appear that they're trying to work it out and are handling things reasonably, but no one knows when the money runs out and when the door could slam shut.
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                                    • EVPlus
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-07-12
                                      • 1111

                                      #508
                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                      If you havent rolled it over by then they will pay you out anyway after that date.
                                      Did 5d tell you or sbr this in an email?
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                                      • DISTROYA
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-26-12
                                        • 2911

                                        #509
                                        Have a good chunk on Bucks NOT winning east or nba crown...Chatted with them that should they be eliminated this week, they should credit the winnings and not wait until end of playoffs. By the time they understood me took forever. Then when they finally did couldnt guarantee that and said "contact us once they are eliminated and then we will see if we can grade those)
                                        Fukking joke.
                                        So, if you dont do anything, I saw somewhere cant remember where head spinning today that funds would be transferred to a book, but i couldnt find this info anywhere on their website, just that it will go to administrator and they will "try" to payout? Well gee thanks for trying LMFAO. What a penetrating mess. Any truth they will transfer to another book? Probably not.
                                        Last edited by DISTROYA; 09-08-20, 04:56 PM.
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                                        • gobucks
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-15-09
                                          • 1287

                                          #510
                                          Apparently administrative fee is 5%. I am going to take the payout with the fee. I don't trust that there will be funds available later.
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 60698

                                            #511
                                            Originally posted by EVPlus
                                            Did 5d tell you or sbr this in an email?
                                            No, just common sense.

                                            Also, he's talking about a 1x rollover with 2 weeks to do it.

                                            I'm sure he'll be fine.
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                                            • johnnyvegas13
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 05-21-15
                                              • 27782

                                              #512
                                              Originally posted by hank_kingsley
                                              As anyone that's ever dealt with a failing business will tell you....time is not your friend. Your best bet is to get out what you can as quickly as possible because there may well not be a tomorrow. One in the hand is worth at least 8-10 in the bush in this case.

                                              And yes, it does appear that they're trying to work it out and are handling things reasonably, but no one knows when the money runs out and when the door could slam shut.
                                              If they r gonna stiff us then no point in doing the rebrand

                                              sbr will boycott them forever
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                                              • Starion
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 01-12-07
                                                • 149

                                                #513
                                                I went through something similar to this with Pinnacle years ago. Was worse because I had a deposit on the way to them when it happened. It worked out though.

                                                I'm in the same boat with some pending election futures which sucks because they are far better than the current market odds. It is what it is, though. In a situation like this, if you get a refund you should be grateful. This is the risk of doing shady business with an outfit in a foreign country.
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                                                • JIBBBY
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                  • 83691

                                                  #514
                                                  Originally posted by hank_kingsley
                                                  As anyone that's ever dealt with a failing business will tell you....time is not your friend. Your best bet is to get out what you can as quickly as possible because there may well not be a tomorrow. One in the hand is worth at least 8-10 in the bush in this case.

                                                  And yes, it does appear that they're trying to work it out and are handling things reasonably, but no one knows when the money runs out and when the door could slam shut.
                                                  Well if 5dimes has a limited reserve and created a ponzi scheme of sorts or if they are now like a weak insurance company with not enough reserves after a big national disaster then perhaps we should worry..

                                                  They are getting bum rushed now for payouts today no doubt about that. I got a good chunk of change in there myself.. I'm gonna try to make my withdraw in a few days.. Would like my futures to be refunded first but maybe waiting isn't a good idea..

                                                  Still I sometimes think patience is a virtue.. They fold they fold. I get stiffed by the book I get stiffed, won't be the first time..
                                                  Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-08-20, 05:09 PM.
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                                                  • EVPlus
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-07-12
                                                    • 1111

                                                    #515
                                                    Originally posted by gobucks
                                                    Apparently administrative fee is 5%. I am going to take the payout with the fee. I don't trust that there will be funds available later.
                                                    This is what I'd do. Don't rush your betting strategy just to complete the roll over as it will most likely lead to stupid decision making.

                                                    Take the 5% hit. You can deposit somewhere else. Or you can just let it sit in your wallet. When the major indices begin their next accumulation phase, btc will follow and you'll get most or all of that 5% back without lifting a finger.
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                                                    • Doug tushyterror
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-03-12
                                                      • 4172

                                                      #516
                                                      Originally posted by beefcake
                                                      Yeah gotta wait to see if Alex goes up a set..then its hedge city man..
                                                      Definitely the right play..I made a huge mistake not hedging my Medv. $500 @33-1 play last year. Could've taken Nadal up 2 sets & a break to win in 5 sets @ 67 -1 for $500. Obviously not a perfect hedge cuz I couldve lost 500 but I would've won over 33K.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 83691

                                                        #517
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        Well if 5dimes has a limited reserve and created a ponzi scheme of sorts or if they are now like a weak insurance company with not enough reserves after a big national disaster then perhaps we should worry..

                                                        They are getting bum rushed now for payouts today no doubt about that. I got a good chunk of change in their myself.. I'm gonna try to make my withdraw in a few days.. Would like my futures to be refunded first but maybe waiting isn't a good idea..

                                                        Still I sometimes think patience is a virtue.. They fold they fold. I get stiffed by the book I get stiffed, won't be the first time..
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                                                        • johnnyvegas13
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 05-21-15
                                                          • 27782

                                                          #518
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Well if 5dimes has a limited reserve and created a ponzi scheme of sorts or if they are now like a weak insurance company with not enough reserves after a big national disaster then perhaps we should worry..

                                                          They are getting bum rushed now for payouts today no doubt about that. I got a good chunk of change in their myself.. I'm gonna try to make my withdraw in a few days.. Would like my futures to be refunded first but maybe waiting isn't a good idea..

                                                          Still I sometimes think patience is a virtue.. They fold they fold. I get stiffed by the book I get stiffed, won't be the first time..
                                                          I can understand delay in payout for next few days

                                                          but no excuses not to grade our futures ....
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                                                          • SBR Forum
                                                            Administrator
                                                            • 12-02-06
                                                            • 4559

                                                            #519
                                                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                            I emailed 5D today and they said transfers are no longer being done with Betanysports:

                                                            Greetings XXXXXX,

                                                            Thank you for contacting us. I am afraid we are no longer doing transfers to BAS at this moment, we can offer you **, Bitcoins, wire, cashier check or a sportsbook transfer.

                                                            We can transfer the funds to Heritage, you just need to confirm 4 digit pin, amount and your account at Heritage. There is a 3% fee for sportsbook transfers, you can take advantage of your free payout day before 1:00 pm ET if you have not had any payouts in the last 30 days.

                                                            Let us know if you need further assistance.

                                                            Best regards,
                                                            Desiree
                                                            Customer Service Department
                                                            5Dimes Group

                                                            For more assistance in this or any other matter, feel free to contact us via Live Help or by dialing our toll free number 1-800-430-5896.
                                                            Hi HedgeHog,

                                                            To clarify, 5Dimes is no longer making an account transfer option available. You'd have to take out your balance using one of the aforementioned payment methods. Keep us posted with your feedback on the withdrawal process.
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                                                            • DISTROYA
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-26-12
                                                              • 2911

                                                              #520
                                                              anyone knows what other books (if any besides heritage their butt buddy) they transfer to?
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                                                              • milwaukee mike
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 08-22-07
                                                                • 26914

                                                                #521
                                                                where is jjgold to tell us how great offshore is?

                                                                i've never had a problem or stress collecting on bets at mgm or collecting a 10k future at wynn... and never had them midstream tell me that the best i could get on a bet with big value is my money back
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                                                                • JIBBBY
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                                  • 83691

                                                                  #522
                                                                  Fock, I really liked and supported 5dimes for years.. I can't believe they are folding for Americans.. All my copy and paste bets on SBR come from 5dimes. I'll miss that book..

                                                                  I guess Tony was the rock and soul and when he got kidnapped that was the beginning of the end for 5dimes..
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                                                                  • Fishhead
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-11-05
                                                                    • 40179

                                                                    #523
                                                                    Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                                                    I can understand delay in payout for next few days
                                                                    They've taken 72-96 hours for BTC payouts the entire year
                                                                    Relax
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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #524
                                                                      Do they still take action from you guys?

                                                                      Can you make a bet at 5D right now for a game that settles today?

                                                                      Or did they suspend activity as well?
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                                                                      • mehoolio
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 12-01-12
                                                                        • 50

                                                                        #525
                                                                        Actually they just told me they do not support any sportsbook transfer any more and bitcoin is the only way to withdraw large amount of funds by the deadline. Unfortunately bitcoin broker, Gemini, sends all bitcoin sales as income to be taxed, even if it is not winnings which makes no sense. Anyone have other bitcoin brokers they suggest?

                                                                        Originally posted by SBR Forum
                                                                        Hi HedgeHog,

                                                                        To clarify, 5Dimes is no longer making an account transfer option available. You'd have to take out your balance using one of the aforementioned payment methods. Keep us posted with your feedback on the withdrawal process.
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