New ABC News poll...

[d2bets]

Interesting results. Thanks for sharing.

I am firmly in the camp supporting the Sweden model - Business as usual with implementation of social distancing. The deaths per million look to be within a normal distribution of numbers. And, there are reports that Sweden may, and I do say may, be approaching herd immunity shortly. I know most disagree.

Ready. Aim.Flame Away :-)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

Belgium	6,490	11.42	568.2
Spain	22,157	46.72	474.21
Italy	25,549	60.43	422.78
France	21,856	66.99	326.27
United Kingdom	18,738	66.49	281.82
Netherlands	4,177	17.23	242.41
Sweden	2,021	10.18	198.46
Switzerland	1,549	8.52	181.88
Ireland	794	4.85	163.59
United States	49,889	327.17	152.49
Portugal	820	10.28	79.75
Denmark	394	5.8	67.96
Germany	5,575	82.93	67.23

Swedes are healthier.

But yeah, let's give them time to let that play out and experiment. Not convinced anitbodies will work here. Evidence is sketchy.

[pilebuck13]

Don’t pay much attention to these I use my eyes and ears look at California Huntington people will not stay inside all summer

[RudyRuetigger]

Look even a slow opening does not mean you have to go.If you are scared stay home no one is forcing you to go to the salon or gym or las vegas if it is open.For me the second things begin to open im there.I have said over and over I hope people are scared that means less traffic and people for me to deal with.

bingo

[mr. leisure]

Don’t pay much attention to these I use my eyes and ears look at California Huntington people will not stay inside all summer

Tens of thousands flock to Orange County beaches as heat wave lingers over SoCal

Crowds of people were seen at Huntington and Newport beaches and officials are expecting even larger crowds over the weekend.


By Jessica De Nova and Leanne Suter

Friday, April 24, 2020 11:27PM

[wakefield23]

Lmao

Media manipulation of the masses

That's news to me

[RudyRuetigger]

why is pauly posting under 2 accounts still?

[Rain Chains]

More info that comes out public realizing not near as bad as thought. 99.5% survival rate or greater, large majority has no symptoms or risks.

Curve flattened, hospitals significantly under capacity. Time to open up.

[lakerboy]

why is pauly posting under 2 accounts still?

Unacceptable

[Kermit]

So now they're saying that all of the people that died in the US being reported on the coronavirus death charts didn't all die specifically from the coronavirus. People may have died from something other than the coronavirus, but if it is found in their system, they are added to the c-virus death count.

This seems just a little bit dishonest.

[Rain Chains]

So now they're saying that all of the people that died in the US being reported on the coronavirus death charts didn't all die specifically from the coronavirus. People may have died from something other than the coronavirus, but if it is found in their system, they are added to the c-virus death count.

This seems just a little bit dishonest.

Someone is hospice with weeks to live diagnosed with the coronavirus is listed as a coronavirus death.... very deceiving.

PA had to walk back 200 deaths this past week.

[milwaukee mike]

california doctors bringing the heat and speaking truth, shocked that network tv in california broadcasted this

1. The answer as to whether or not we need to continue to stay at home and keep businesses closed is an emphatic "NO". 2. Covid-19 is in fact no more dangerous than seasonal flu.3. Quarantining is a health hazard in and of itself. 4. ER doctors are being pressured to add Covid-19 to death reports.5. Not about science. Not about Covid-19. When they use the word "safe" - that's about controlling you.

[RudyRuetigger]

california doctors bringing the heat and speaking truth, shocked that network tv in california broadcasted this

1. The answer as to whether or not we need to continue to stay at home and keep businesses closed is an emphatic "NO". 2. Covid-19 is in fact no more dangerous than seasonal flu.3. Quarantining is a health hazard in and of itself. 4. ER doctors are being pressured to add Covid-19 to death reports.5. Not about science. Not about Covid-19. When they use the word "safe" - that's about controlling you.

whos bumping that thread where people cussed me out about corona


i did notice it stopped

i guess ill go find it and post this

[RudyRuetigger]

Swedes are healthier.

But yeah, let's give them time to let that play out and experiment. Not convinced anitbodies will work here. Evidence is sketchy.

the fact you are so wrong time and time again but still give expert advice here is mind boggling

without even an ounce of acknowledging your idiotic stances

[d2bets]

the fact you are so wrong time and time again but still give expert advice here is mind boggling

without even an ounce of acknowledging your idiotic stances

Which part of my post is wrong?

[RudyRuetigger]

Which part of my post is wrong?

who are you trying to kid?

weve all been here long enough to know what you are

and you shouldve been banned

[jjgold]

Democrats are so funny

[wakefield23]

In a few years time we will look back and realize that our world was destroyed by a virus with a CFR between 0.1 and 0.3%

This f ucking death-denying society has gone too far

History will not treat us kindly

[Checkerboard]

ABC poll saloon

[milwaukee mike]

let's not forget how easily we were all duped, and how many intelligent people continue to believe totally b.s. numbers.

cdc even ADMITS that they want pneumonia deaths to be reported as coronavirus, on people that were never tested for corona, they just had some corona-symptoms (which are the same as pneumonia). so every single pneumonia death in the past month has been reported as covid.

Now, if someone died from pneumonia, respiratory distress or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, and had exhibited coronavirus symptoms, their certificate will list COVID-19 as a presumed contributing factor.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/0...rs-controversy

[Iona]

On a lighter note, the below photo is classic !

[Wabashwonders]

let's not forget all these scare tactics were done because all the hospitals and clinics worldwide were just going to be so overrun with patients! well guess what, every waiting room looks like this and yet the fearmongering continues

Classic example of fake news. Show one picture of an empty Hospital and report that all hospitals look like this.

[Black Coffee]

Not many things I agree with Trump on but these lock downs are bullshit.

No reason things can't be as they were.

And fuc k all these losers saying "we are all in this together"

They are always the ones making 120k per year now working from their basements while everyone else is receiving a steady stream of piss to their face.

Bingo... When you start affecting people's money, then it'll change...

Working from home is the first step towards being laid off.. Many companies are now seeing how many employees they don't need..

Once that happens, watch how quickly people's opinions change then..

[goduke]

If people die we didn’t do enough, if people live we did too much. There’s always going to be a news source to argue both sides here so you guys are just going in circles. The fact is you guys spent so much time arguing with each other about your political sides that you put idiots from both parties in offices as your elected officials. No one to blame but yourselves.

[milwaukee mike]

Classic example of fake news. Show one picture of an empty Hospital and report that all hospitals look like this.

go visit a hospital, or talk to a doctor/nurse, they are ghost towns

nurses are doing dance videos on tik tok because they have nothing better to do

as expected, people will continue believing the lies even when the truth becomes apparent... do you also still believe there are sleeper cells of muslim terrorists in every city in the us, just waiting to blow up every shopping mall and apartment building? 19 years later and they are still asleep apparently

[milwaukee mike]

If people die we didn’t do enough, if people live we did too much. There’s always going to be a news source to argue both sides here so you guys are just going in circles. The fact is you guys spent so much time arguing with each other about your political sides that you put idiots from both parties in offices as your elected officials. No one to blame but yourselves.

not a single mainstream news channel has presented the opinion that we shouldn't have shelter in place orders... for over a month they have repeated the lie that keeping healthy people locked in their homes helps general health and welfare

human contact, vitamin d (sunlight), being active, those are all things that make people healthy and happy

[milwaukee mike]

#filmyourhospital

when you go on twitter there are thousands of images and videos of empty hospitals... yet if you google that it's a total conspiracy theory! believe what we tell you, not what your eyes see

[Wabashwonders]

go visit a hospital, or talk to a doctor/nurse, they are ghost towns

nurses are doing dance videos on tik tok because they have nothing better to do

as expected, people will continue believing the lies even when the truth becomes apparent... do you also still believe there are sleeper cells of muslim terrorists in every city in the us, just waiting to blow up every shopping mall and apartment building? 19 years later and they are still asleep apparently

So, you have visited all the hospitals in the country and know this for a fact? And now you are believing things you read on Twitter as facts? Go away, you need help.

[SBR_Guest_Pro]

sounds like I can go outside now. will put on sunscreen first

[goduke]

not a single mainstream news channel has presented the opinion that we shouldn't have shelter in place orders... for over a month they have repeated the lie that keeping healthy people locked in their homes helps general health and welfare

human contact, vitamin d (sunlight), being active, those are all things that make people healthy and happy

Ok I will entertain you....if you Milwaukee mike of SBR knows the answers just tell me if it’s just some big overblown situation, what benefit is served to stay in quarantine. If it’s suppose to be business as usual why isn’t it? If it’s some government conspiracy, for what purpose? What do they get out of it? It hurts the economy, people, etc. so if it’s just fear mongering bs tell me why they did it? If this truly isn’t an issue than how does it benefit our governors/government to keep us quarantined? If you can answer that with a solid response it will surprise me

[milwaukee mike]

Ok I will entertain you....if you Milwaukee mike of SBR knows the answers just tell me if it’s just some big overblown situation, what benefit is served to stay in quarantine. If it’s suppose to be business as usual why isn’t it? If it’s some government conspiracy, for what purpose? What do they get out of it? It hurts the economy, people, etc. so if it’s just fear mongering bs tell me why they did it? If this truly isn’t an issue than how does it benefit our governors/government to keep us quarantined? If you can answer that with a solid response it will surprise me

so you ask a question and then turn to the condescending tone

government/media's job is to break your legs, then hand you a crutch and say "see without us you couldn't walk!"... without fear why would we need a federal government?

why did the federal reserve start buying anything and everything? control

there is a lot of money in lying to people... why were we lied to about iraq/wmd? that sure hurt a lot of people, but it made a lot of others super rich

in order to transform society you need transformative events... do you really think not a single person is benefitting from the lockdowns?

[goduke]

so you ask a question and then turn to the condescending tone

government/media's job is to break your legs, then hand you a crutch and say "see without us you couldn't walk!"... without fear why would we need a federal government?

why did the federal reserve start buying anything and everything? control

there is a lot of money in lying to people... why were we lied to about iraq/wmd? that sure hurt a lot of people, but it made a lot of others super rich

in order to transform society you need transformative events... do you really think not a single person is benefitting from the lockdowns?

It wasn’t meant as a tone I just really don’t see the benefit. With wars it’s very easy to see the benefit....defense contracts, kickbacks, allocation of money for certain purposes. But where is the benefit here financially? In terms of the people that are making decisions on quarantine how are they benefitting financially?

[milwaukee mike]

It wasn’t meant as a tone I just really don’t see the benefit. With wars it’s very easy to see the benefit....defense contracts, kickbacks, allocation of money for certain purposes. But where is the benefit here financially? In terms of the people that are making decisions on quarantine how are they benefitting financially?

all behind the scenes... those that play the game get rewarded... why do we get dr fauci (bill gates best buddy, a "doctor" that hasn't practiced medicine in 20 years) as some kind of genius/expert?

and when everything they say turns out to be wrong, no apologies, and keep being presented as an expert

wisconsin governor "i hate having to do a safer-at-home, i will end it as soon as possible"... then when the data is 10% as bad as expected, he STILL extends it another month

the media only keeps their job by parroting the narrative... you're right though it's difficult to see why some of these governors are being complete head-in-the-sand jackasses... it's either ignorance, stupidity, or corrpution, my guess is some combination of those

[goduke]

all behind the scenes... those that play the game get rewarded... why do we get dr fauci (bill gates best buddy, a "doctor" that hasn't practiced medicine in 20 years) as some kind of genius/expert?

and when everything they say turns out to be wrong, no apologies, and keep being presented as an expert

wisconsin governor "i hate having to do a safer-at-home, i will end it as soon as possible"... then when the data is 10% as bad as expected, he STILL extends it another month

the media only keeps their job by parroting the narrative... you're right though it's difficult to see why some of these governors are being complete head-in-the-sand jackasses... it's either ignorance, stupidity, or corrpution, my guess is some combination of those

But where’s the financial gain. Every other act in history always leads to a financial gain. There’s no way all of this is just so Fauci can be a figurehead. You have to think in the sense of what person or entity benefits so greatly from doing this that it outweighs stalling the economy, high unemployment, etc. I don’t see where the financial benefit goes and to that that’s why I believe that there must be more truth to why we have to be cautious with this. Maybe information that doesn’t get released or whatnot I have no idea. Until I can see the gain from doing all of this for no reason I’m going to believe that it’s in the well-being of people. But if you do think you can pinpoint where the financial gain would come from I would open to hearing that

[d2bets]

all behind the scenes... those that play the game get rewarded... why do we get dr fauci (bill gates best buddy, a "doctor" that hasn't practiced medicine in 20 years) as some kind of genius/expert?

and when everything they say turns out to be wrong, no apologies, and keep being presented as an expert

wisconsin governor "i hate having to do a safer-at-home, i will end it as soon as possible"... then when the data is 10% as bad as expected, he STILL extends it another month

the media only keeps their job by parroting the narrative... you're right though it's difficult to see why some of these governors are being complete head-in-the-sand jackasses... it's either ignorance, stupidity, or corrpution, my guess is some combination of those

How about Dr. Michael Osterholm?

This guy has been studying and talking about this stuff for decades.

Being a practicing doctor seeing patients is meaningless when it comes to this stuff.

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[d2bets]

sounds like I can go outside now. will put on sunscreen first

Don't. Vitamin D is good for you. Only use some if you're out for a long time.