California passes law that allows college athletes to get paid

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  • DiggityDaggityDo
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-30-08
    • 81463

    #36
    Originally posted by daneblazer
    Looking forward to the first booster who pays 250k for a quarterbacks autograph
    Hey son, why you wanna go play for UCLA? Oh, they paid you $250K for your autograph? Come play for USC instead and we will pay you $350K for your autograph.
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    • JMobile
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-21-10
      • 19078

      #37
      Originally posted by CanuckG
      Kids graduating in 2022 pissed
      Dropout and then come back the following year. Problem solved.
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      • packerd_00
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-22-13
        • 17846

        #38
        Figures LeBron would be behind it. Guys always got his hand stuck out.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388208

          #39
          This will be a real mess
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74866

            #40
            Originally posted by jjgold
            This will be a real mess
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            • iBetSo
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-12-18
              • 647

              #41
              Originally posted by G Anon Dropout
              They are compensated with tuition and room and board free. They agree to the stipulations when signing to play so they have no legit argument especially now that the XFL will accept anyone over 18.
              As reported in 2016, the average nccaf team drives $30 million in revenue, with big name schools topping over $120 in revenue per season. So lets say that 50 players on that team have full rides, which I would say is high, this may equal $20,000 a semester with a generous estimate.

              The school gives select elite players $2 million in "compensation" and pocket $118 million minus their expenses. So the school should pocket $40 million a season off these guys who only get seasonal based tuition and board waived? Seems fair.
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              • mrpapageorgio
                SBR MVP
                • 09-07-17
                • 2974

                #42
                Originally posted by packerd_00
                No free scholarships then,or do they still get to double dip.
                California lets them double dip the same as every marching band member on scholarship can freelance and perform musical gigs on the side without losing their scholarship. This isn't forcing schools to pay them. It's allowing the players to go off campus and get paid by a local car dealer (or insert your own example business) to sign autographs if they want or allow the next Zion to skip the BS and get signed by Nike without waiting for him to declare for the NBA.

                If you want to argue against schools themselves giving cash to players because of the scholarships, fine. But the NCAA telling a player they can't go off campus and hustle up a few bucks signing autographs or making endorsement deals while coaches can go on tv selling insurance reeks of a monopoly.
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                • VeggieDog
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-21-09
                  • 7206

                  #43
                  Originally posted by packerd_00
                  Figures LeBron would be behind it. Guys always got his hand stuck out.
                  That dude didn't even go to college. Barely has a HS diploma and he's a genius?
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                  • swordsandtequila
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-23-12
                    • 9763

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Sam Odom
                    NCAA could rule all Cal teams in violation... sanctions and no bowls or playoffs
                    Let them. Florida and South Carolina already have proposals, won't be long before the rest of the SEC follows. The big 5 conferences should tell the NCAA to go fuk themselves and form their own "league". Make their own rules. TV execs would throw money hand over fist for a piece of the action. The NCAA as you know it would cease to exist.
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 66172

                      #45
                      Originally posted by VeggieDog
                      That dude didn't even go to college. Barely has a HS diploma and he's a genius?
                      LeBron may not be a genius but he’s not dumb.
                      He parlayed his basketball ball talent into a gazillion dollar life.
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                      • Sam Odom
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-30-05
                        • 58063

                        #46
                        swords


                        Originally posted by Sam Odom

                        NCAA would win the battle but lose the war

                        This ^
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                        • GzaTheGenius
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-12-13
                          • 4181

                          #47
                          Stupid..
                          Guys already get paid
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                          • MinnesotaFats
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-18-10
                            • 14781

                            #48
                            It's illegal/ unconstitutional under the commerce clause

                            NCAA will sue but in addition every state run college will sue and win

                            Also, new law not even paying non top athletes....unless there was equal money for women swimmer girl as there is for top hoops star theres going to be more litigation pertaining to air time/ tv time to provide opportunities to create value of likeness

                            California loses here
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                            • mrpapageorgio
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-07-17
                              • 2974

                              #49
                              Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                              It's illegal/ unconstitutional under the commerce clause

                              NCAA will sue but in addition every state run college will sue and win

                              Also, new law not even paying non top athletes....unless there was equal money for women swimmer girl as there is for top hoops star theres going to be more litigation pertaining to air time/ tv time to provide opportunities to create value of likeness

                              California loses here
                              California isn’t forcing the NCAA itself to allow image likeness rights. They’re requiring the California schools to do that. If the NCAA doesn’t like it, they can expel the schools from participation in their games. The commerce clause argument is a complete stretch and the 9th Circuit being the most liberal Appellate Court would make the NCAAs case an uphill climb considering they already lost in that court with O’Bannon.
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                              • TheMoneyShot
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 02-14-07
                                • 28690

                                #50
                                I think the NCAA has their hands tied at the moment...

                                I don't know who passed this law in California??? But, remember... there's baseball, hockey, basketball and more collegiate sports. Why aren't they paid? I'm assuming this is just for college football?

                                Furthermore, NCAA has always stressed "education" comes first... you shouldn't be rewarded with financial gains playing a sport while studying for your degree.

                                This is going to get very ugly.
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                                • swordsandtequila
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-23-12
                                  • 9763

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                  swords





                                  Originally Posted by Sam Odom

                                  NCAA would win the battle but lose the war





                                  This ^
                                  Sammy, there would be no battle.
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                                  • swordsandtequila
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-23-12
                                    • 9763

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                    I think the NCAA has their hands tied at the moment...

                                    I don't know who passed this law in California??? But, remember... there's baseball, hockey, basketball and more collegiate sports. Why aren't they paid? I'm assuming this is just for college football?

                                    Furthermore, NCAA has always stressed "education" comes first... you shouldn't be rewarded with financial gains playing a sport while studying for your degree.

                                    This is going to get very ugly.
                                    It's for athletes in general, and as already stated isn't about the schools paying. It's about an individual's right to earn on their name/likeness, etc. Regarding the NCAA stressing education first, that's laughable. And naive. University of Texas doesn't have their own network because of "education". If an athlete can't be "rewarded with financial gains" for his own likeness then why should the university? In no other instance would this be acceptable. If this were written into a contract no agent/lawyer would agree to it. And neither would you or I.
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                                    • maggieballs
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 10-28-18
                                      • 95

                                      #53
                                      If the football players get paid, shouldnt all college athletes be paid to be equal?
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                                      • TheMoneyShot
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                                        • 02-14-07
                                        • 28690

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                                        It's for athletes in general, and as already stated isn't about the schools paying. It's about an individual's right to earn on their name/likeness, etc. Regarding the NCAA stressing education first, that's laughable. And naive. University of Texas doesn't have their own network because of "education". If an athlete can't be "rewarded with financial gains" for his own likeness then why should the university? In no other instance would this be acceptable. If this were written into a contract no agent/lawyer would agree to it. And neither would you or I.
                                        I agree with what you're saying. I'm sure the NCAA is protecting the universities profits. I'm sure this is business on top of business. This has been hush hush for many years. Whoever passed the law in Cali.... it's going to causes a chain reaction of sh#$. I don't think the NCAA wants any part of this. Going to get ugly.

                                        How can it be legal in one state??? But not legal in the rest? Just an odd law in Cali.
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                                        • TheMoneyShot
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 02-14-07
                                          • 28690

                                          #55
                                          This is funny though.... could you imagine bowling in college.... and not getting paid a dime.

                                          But... if you're a college football player... you get all the money? lol

                                          Who the fukk wants to endorse a soon to be professional bowler?

                                          Think about it.
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                                          • packerd_00
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-22-13
                                            • 17846

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by mrpapageorgio
                                            California lets them double dip the same as every marching band member on scholarship can freelance and perform musical gigs on the side without losing their scholarship. This isn't forcing schools to pay them. It's allowing the players to go off campus and get paid by a local car dealer (or insert your own example business) to sign autographs if they want or allow the next Zion to skip the BS and get signed by Nike without waiting for him to declare for the NBA.

                                            If you want to argue against schools themselves giving cash to players because of the scholarships, fine. But the NCAA telling a player they can't go off campus and hustle up a few bucks signing autographs or making endorsement deals while coaches can go on tv selling insurance reeks of a monopoly.
                                            Signing an autograph for some pocket money at a car lot I have no problem with that mate. I never had a problem with that, but really though their isnt a lot of College merchandise ive come across that sells Players autos or has the name on the back, normally the only time that happens is when theyve become a Pro.
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                                            • packerd_00
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-22-13
                                              • 17846

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by VeggieDog
                                              That dude didn't even go to college. Barely has a HS diploma and he's a genius?
                                              You ever heard of the saying,the emperor has no clothes. Would suit his situation to a tee.
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                                              • BigdaddyQH
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-13-09
                                                • 19531

                                                #58
                                                As usual, you guys missed the biggest point of all. Why do you think the California law does not go into effect until 2023? Why not make it 2022 or 2021? Why over 3 years away? I understand this is going to be extremely difficult for some of you to do, but try THINKING for once in your lives instead of mouthing off all of the time.
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                                                • Mr KLC
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                                                  • 12-19-07
                                                  • 31100

                                                  #59
                                                  If you think the NCAA is not going to fight California tooth and nail, consider this: This week they stripped a D-III school of a national championship because the coach let a couple of players borrow his Subaru.

                                                  BELTON, Texas -- The NCAA has ordered Mary Hardin-Baylor to vacate its 2016 Division III national championship because the head coach let a player use his car for more than 18 months, which was determined to be an improper benefit for a student-athlete.

                                                  The NCAA announced its findings Thursday and said it would vacate any victories in which ineligible athletes played. The school said that would include 29 victories over the 2016 and 2017 seasons and the 2016 championship, a 10-7 win over Wisconsin-Oshkosh. School officials said they will appeal that punishment.
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