Originally Posted by
wantitall4moi
because they got ran out of the building by OKC. They almost lost in the first round, if not for some bad calls they probably dont get past that one.
People act like Lakers got Howard for absolutely nothing, they traded away a pretty good player (when he is healthy and his head is screwed on straight). Like I said getting Nash made them better than getting howard for Bynum. Ad in the fact Howard wont be starting and the lakers are already worse off, at least bynum would have been playing at the start of the season.
This season is basically their best shot with this line up. And it is already inhibited by howard not being there for the start of the season. Odds he stays past this year IMO are less than 30%, so therefore it is all or nothing this year. But even if he does stay then what? What do you do going forward? Howard is obviously going to be the center piece so what do you do with everyone else?
Will you be able to get people to come to LA to play with him? They got some talent in Orl but that still wasnt enough.
Lakers totally mortgaged their whole franchise on a guy who is coming off back surgery, wont be able to start the season, doesnt have a contract and has shown he is a coach killer and self absorbed crybaby. So he and Kobe have some things in common so he will probably fit right in.
You guys act like Howard is signed sealed and delivered for the next 5 or 6 years and is the same guy ESPN has over hyped for the past 5 years.
THAT is the truth and the unbiased view.
You all want to keep going back to what I said about last years team, that shit is over and done with get over it. They got blown out ATS all season so they definitely werent nearly as good as people thought they were because teams that are under rated dont go 30% ATS.
This team is the one that matters. Like Is aid this next year will probably be worse than last year because a lot of people didnt really expect much from that team and in some ways they did over achieve, but they also are the Lakers and some people expect them to win by just walking on the court.
What are you all going to be saying if Howard cant play Lakers get in as a 6 or 7 seed and then have reality set in?
Lakers have some big names sure, but they dont have anything worth trading away they actually still own. They dont have any draft picks and the younger talent they have arent anyone anyone else would want, and the guys they have gotten the past couple years are trash heap guys they probably couldnt give away.
Lakers roster for 2012/2013....
Kobe Bryant
Steve Nash
Pau Gasol
Dwight Howard
Ron Artest
Josh McRoberts (for now)
Steve Blake
Antawn Jamison
Chris Duhon
Devin Ebanks
Jordon Hill
Earl Clark
Darius Morris
Andrew Goudelock
their payroll is 98 million this season, 15 million more than the next team brooklyn who is spending 83 million. Do you think that team has that much value?
Then start looking at pieces they can move or people might want in case they do want to make a move mid season. Then look to after the season if or WHEN Howard leaves and take his name off the list what names on it are worth anything?
By Comparison the Clippers who are spending 61 million this year have ...
Chris Paul
DeAndre Jordon
Blake Griffen
Lamar Odem
CAron Butler
Grant Hill
Eric bledsoe
Ronnie Turiaf
Ryan Hollins
Chauncey Billups
Willie green
Jamal Crawford
Travis Leslie
Trey Thompkins
When you look at the two lists it ie easy to see what team has more possibilities in terms of moves they can make. Helll Clippers could actually sign Howard if they wanted to which might end up being the big story out here before all is said and done. Jordon is a decet center and he and Griffen are buddies but he isnt andrew bynum nor is he howard (assuming howard is healthy) and howard can play his game a lot better with the clippers than he can with the lakers. Clippers are on the hook for 21 mil next year if they give Chris paul a max out deal and around 18 mil that gets them to just under 40, howard at 19 or 20 gets them to 60 which is where they are this season. So they would then have Griffen, Howard, de andre jordon (who prob gets moved and makes 11 mil)Paul, caron butler, grant hill, eric bledsoe, travie leslie, and trey thompkins all signed and sitting at 60 million, (less than 50 if they lose jordons contract). Give lamar a mid level, keep some of the other pieces for near what they are making this year and you could have most of this team and howard for around 78 million.
But that is after this season, laker guys have to worry about this season which is literally an all in season for them, which is starting off already in a bad spot since it is no telling when howard plays.