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  • ikid2groove415
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-08-18
    • 11981

    #71
    Guys really believe Cavs Gm had anything to do with giving love the 4 year contract extension? I Said it before it’s Dan Gilbert
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    • convick
      SBR MVP
      • 11-03-11
      • 3954

      #72
      Originally posted by ikid2groove415
      Didn’t cavs draft lebron number 1 ? And kyrie number 1? Tanking doesn’t work ?
      Kyrie #1 pick was from LA Clippers, trade for Baron Davis. It had a 3% chance to turn into 1st pick.

      "The 2011 first round pick acquired from the Los Angeles Clippers is unprotected, meaning the Cavaliers own the pick in the upcoming draft no matter what selection it is."
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      • Ratpack
        SBR MVP
        • 02-15-12
        • 4133

        #73
        they also drafted dion waters at 3 and anthony bennett at 1 and wiggins at 1 all 3 have been really bad
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        • ikid2groove415
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-08-18
          • 11981

          #74
          Originally posted by Ratpack
          they also drafted dion waters at 3 and anthony bennett at 1 and wiggins at 1 all 3 have been really bad
          Wiggins is above average - he’s not bad
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          • Ratpack
            SBR MVP
            • 02-15-12
            • 4133

            #75
            hes TERRIBLE cant shoot the 3 is a HORRIBLE defensive player and doesnt show any effort on the court.
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            • ikid2groove415
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-08-18
              • 11981

              #76
              Originally posted by Ratpack
              hes TERRIBLE cant shoot the 3 is a HORRIBLE defensive player and doesnt show any effort on the court.
              He can create his own shot 17.7 points FG% 43.8- Not saying he’s great but definitely not bad
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              • Ratpack
                SBR MVP
                • 02-15-12
                • 4133

                #77
                not number 1 pick worthy
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                • ikid2groove415
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                  • 01-08-18
                  • 11981

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Ratpack
                  not number 1 pick worthy
                  Who should go number 1 in the 2014 draft class? Besides Joel that’s always hurt
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                  • jtoler
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                    • 12-17-13
                    • 30967

                    #79
                    Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                    Idiots look at love numbers and think he’s good? Lollollol - sit down and auctually watch the guy play ? Zero defense -spot up shooter with decent numbers on rebounds -
                    He can not create his own shot
                    Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                    He can create his own shot 17.7 points FG% 43.8- Not saying he’s great but definitely not bad
                    which is it
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                    • ikid2groove415
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-08-18
                      • 11981

                      #80
                      Originally posted by jtoler
                      which is it
                      I’m talking about Wiggins -
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                      • Ratpack
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-15-12
                        • 4133

                        #81
                        gordon and saric are better overall players they shouldnt have been drafted 1 by the cavs but they have had better careers than wiggins they should of traded him for derozon
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                        • ikid2groove415
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-08-18
                          • 11981

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Ratpack
                          gordon and saric are better overall players they shouldnt have been drafted 1 by the cavs but they have had better careers than wiggins they should of traded him for derozon
                          He avg 23.6 points in 2016 with FG% 45..2 in 2016 before butler came - he can score fella - still very young
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                          • packerd_00
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 05-22-13
                            • 17811

                            #83
                            Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                            Wiggins is above average - he’s not bad
                            Not as good as they made him out to be though.
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                            • upscope
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-26-11
                              • 2837

                              #84
                              Wait....So it's Ok to use stats before Butler came along to argue that Wiggins is actually a good player that can score. But when people point out K. Love's far superior stats before LeBron came along.......Well, they are idiots that just look at stats & they need to watch a game

                              Wiggins is a grotesquely overpaid #3 option who thinks he should be the #1 option. Is a crybaby with zero heart or desire, not a team player, plays no defense, shoots too much, turns the ball over too much, not a particularly good ft shooter & quickly becoming a team cancer that has come nowhere near living UP to #1 overall selection.

                              Hypocrisy @ it's finest.....
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                              • jtoler
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                                • 12-17-13
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by upscope
                                Butler is a grotesquely overpaid #3 option who thinks he should be the #1 option. Is a crybaby with zero heart or desire, not a team player, plays no defense, shoots too much, turns the ball over too much, not a particularly good ft shooter & quickly becoming a team cancer that has come nowhere near living UP to #1 overall selection.
                                ?..
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                                • Hman
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-04-17
                                  • 21429

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                  Wiggins is above average - he’s not bad


                                  Originally posted by packerd_00
                                  Not as good as they made him out to be though.


                                  Not even close.

                                  Comparisons to T-Mac have turned out to be laughable
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                                  • ikid2groove415
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-08-18
                                    • 11981

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Hman
                                    Not even close.

                                    Comparisons to T-Mac have turned out to be laughable
                                    He’s only 23-
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                                    • ikid2groove415
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-08-18
                                      • 11981

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by Hman
                                      Not even close.

                                      Comparisons to T-Mac have turned out to be laughable
                                      Wiggins got better numbers then t-Mac first 4 years - yet it’s laughable?
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                                      • Hman
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-04-17
                                        • 21429

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                        Wiggins got better numbers then t-Mac first 4 years - yet it’s laughable?


                                        McGrady's first 2 years are a wash.

                                        Wiggins is good but it will be surprising if he can reach T-Mac's level.

                                        T-Mac led the NBA in scoring 2 years.

                                        I remember vividly because he did it in Orlando & I'm a Magic fan.

                                        I'll lay anything that Wiggins will never come close to that.

                                        Also don't look at just the points.

                                        Tracy is a much better all-around player across the board (Assists, Rebounds, Steals)
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                                        • ikid2groove415
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-08-18
                                          • 11981

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Hman
                                          McGrady's first 2 years are a wash.

                                          Wiggins is good but it will be surprising if he can reach T-Mac's level.

                                          T-Mac led the NBA in scoring 2 years.

                                          I remember vividly because he did it in Orlando & I'm a Magic fan.

                                          I'll lay anything that Wiggins will never come close to that.

                                          Also don't look at just the points.

                                          Tracy is a much better all-around player across the board (Assists, Rebounds, Steals)
                                          T-Mac was a lethal scorer -
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                                          • upscope
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-26-11
                                            • 2837

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by jtoler
                                            ?..
                                            Wiggins
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                                            • jjgold
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                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #92
                                              Love will be an all star this year
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                                              • d2bets
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                                                • 08-10-05
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                Love will be an all star this year
                                                Maybe. He was an all-star on shitty Minnesota teams.

                                                But what is Cleveland's plan post-Lebron?
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                                                • Hman
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                                                  • 11-04-17
                                                  • 21429

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                                  Maybe. He was an all-star on shitty Minnesota teams.

                                                  But what is Cleveland's plan post-Lebron?


                                                  Cleveland is in the same position as the majority of teams in the league.

                                                  There's only a few SuperStars/Stars to go around & make your team a contender.

                                                  The rest of the teams have to settle for the same 'ol year after year & simply hope they are lucky enough to hit that one special lottery every 10-15 years when that rare player comes along, or that somehow & for some reason one of those elite players decide they want pick up & move, to a place like La, for example.
                                                  There's only a few SuperStars/Stars to go around & make your team a contender.



                                                  The rest of the teams have to settle for the same 'ol year after year & simply hope they are lucky enough to hit that one special lottery every 10-15 years when that rare player comes along, or that somehow & for some reason one of those elite players decide they want pick up & move, to a place like La, for example.


                                                  Odds are against any of that happening, therefore you don't just let your best players walk or get away, don't you agree d2?
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                                                  • Grits n' Gravy
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 13024

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    Love will be an all star this year
                                                    in the wnba it is possible....nba, going to be tough for him unless fans vote him in as a token.
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                                                    • Grits n' Gravy
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                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 13024

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                      But what is Cleveland's plan post-Lebron?
                                                      Be the same shitty team they have always been without LeBron. Except now there is no glimmer of hope of him ever returning.
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                                                      • ikid2groove415
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                                                        • 01-08-18
                                                        • 11981

                                                        #97
                                                        Cleveland seems to always land the number 1 pick when Lebron is gone - Kyrie was the only homerun
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                                                        • upscope
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-26-11
                                                          • 2837

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                          Be the same shitty team they have always been without LeBron. Except now there is no glimmer of hope of him ever returning.
                                                          He'll return again.....to sign a 1-day contract to retire a Cav
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                                                          • ikid2groove415
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-08-18
                                                            • 11981

                                                            #99
                                                            People still think this was the right move?
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                                                            • ans61201
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-11-15
                                                              • 3661

                                                              #100
                                                              Of course it was. His money free on the books isn’t going to land you another player. Nobody is signing up to go to Cleveland willingly. Small markets have to. My blazers overpaid guys like cj, but we’re not a destination. It’s how the nba works. They were over the cap with our without that move, and not going to get a replacement player. IF they can flip him for anything of value long term, which I believe is the plan, of course it is when you’re the cleveland Cavs without Lebron
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                                                              • Grits n' Gravy
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                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 13024

                                                                #101
                                                                Cleveland back to being worst team in NBA again. Big shock.
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