Guys really believe Cavs Gm had anything to do with giving love the 4 year contract extension? 
I Said it before it’s Dan Gilbert
I Said it before it’s Dan Gilbert
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Kyrie #1 pick was from LA Clippers, trade for Baron Davis. It had a 3% chance to turn into 1st pick.Originally posted by ikid2groove415
"The 2011 first round pick acquired from the Los Angeles Clippers is unprotected, meaning the Cavaliers own the pick in the upcoming draft no matter what selection it is."Comment -
they also drafted dion waters at 3 and anthony bennett at 1 and wiggins at 1 all 3 have been really badComment -
Wiggins is above average - he’s not badOriginally posted by RatpackComment -
hes TERRIBLE cant shoot the 3 is a HORRIBLE defensive player and doesnt show any effort on the court.Comment -
He can create his own shot 17.7 points FG% 43.8- Not saying he’s great but definitely not badOriginally posted by RatpackComment -
not number 1 pick worthyComment -
Who should go number 1 in the 2014 draft class? Besides Joel that’s always hurtOriginally posted by RatpackComment -
Originally posted by ikid2groove415Originally posted by ikid2groove415
which is it
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I’m talking about Wiggins -Originally posted by jtoler which is itComment -
gordon and saric are better overall players they shouldnt have been drafted 1 by the cavs but they have had better careers than wiggins they should of traded him for derozonComment -
He avg 23.6 points in 2016 with FG% 45..2 in 2016 before butler came - he can score fella - still very youngOriginally posted by RatpackComment -
Not as good as they made him out to be though.Originally posted by ikid2groove415Comment -
Wait....So it's Ok to use stats before Butler came along to argue that Wiggins is actually a good player that can score. But when people point out K. Love's far superior stats before LeBron came along.......Well, they are idiots that just look at stats & they need to watch a game
Wiggins is a grotesquely overpaid #3 option who thinks he should be the #1 option. Is a crybaby with zero heart or desire, not a team player, plays no defense, shoots too much, turns the ball over too much, not a particularly good ft shooter & quickly becoming a team cancer that has come nowhere near living UP to #1 overall selection.
Hypocrisy @ it's finest.....Comment -
?..Originally posted by upscopeComment -
Originally posted by ikid2groove415
Originally posted by packerd_00
Not even close.
Comparisons to T-Mac have turned out to be laughableComment -
He’s only 23-Originally posted by HmanComment -
Wiggins got better numbers then t-Mac first 4 years - yet it’s laughable?Originally posted by HmanComment -
Originally posted by ikid2groove415
McGrady's first 2 years are a wash.
Wiggins is good but it will be surprising if he can reach T-Mac's level.
T-Mac led the NBA in scoring 2 years.
I remember vividly because he did it in Orlando & I'm a Magic fan.
I'll lay anything that Wiggins will never come close to that.
Also don't look at just the points.
Tracy is a much better all-around player across the board (Assists, Rebounds, Steals)Comment -
T-Mac was a lethal scorer -Originally posted by HmanComment -
WigginsOriginally posted by jtolerComment -
Love will be an all star this yearComment -
Maybe. He was an all-star on shitty Minnesota teams.Originally posted by jjgold
But what is Cleveland's plan post-Lebron?Comment -
Originally posted by d2bets
Cleveland is in the same position as the majority of teams in the league.
There's only a few SuperStars/Stars to go around & make your team a contender.
The rest of the teams have to settle for the same 'ol year after year & simply hope they are lucky enough to hit that one special lottery every 10-15 years when that rare player comes along, or that somehow & for some reason one of those elite players decide they want pick up & move, to a place like La, for example.
There's only a few SuperStars/Stars to go around & make your team a contender.
The rest of the teams have to settle for the same 'ol year after year & simply hope they are lucky enough to hit that one special lottery every 10-15 years when that rare player comes along, or that somehow & for some reason one of those elite players decide they want pick up & move, to a place like La, for example.
Odds are against any of that happening, therefore you don't just let your best players walk or get away, don't you agree d2?Comment -
in the wnba it is possible....nba, going to be tough for him unless fans vote him in as a token.Originally posted by jjgoldComment -
Be the same shitty team they have always been without LeBron. Except now there is no glimmer of hope of him ever returning.Originally posted by d2betsComment -
Cleveland seems to always land the number 1 pick when Lebron is gone - Kyrie was the only homerunComment -
He'll return again.....to sign a 1-day contract to retire a CavOriginally posted by Grits n' GravyComment -
People still think this was the right move?Comment -
Of course it was. His money free on the books isn’t going to land you another player. Nobody is signing up to go to Cleveland willingly. Small markets have to. My blazers overpaid guys like cj, but we’re not a destination. It’s how the nba works. They were over the cap with our without that move, and not going to get a replacement player. IF they can flip him for anything of value long term, which I believe is the plan, of course it is when you’re the cleveland Cavs without LebronComment -
Cleveland back to being worst team in NBA again. Big shock.Comment
