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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #36
    Rudy the banned guys do not win long term

    Betting slow moving lines thats all
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    • RudyRuetigger
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-24-10
      • 65084

      #37
      Originally posted by jjgold
      Rudy the banned guys do not win long term

      Betting slow moving lines thats all
      bro that was at william hill

      you said it was a clown show and you could not get real action there because of limits

      so i asked why not become a tout if you can win and are banned

      now you say at william hill you wont be banned unless betting slow moving lines?
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #38
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Rudy the banned guys do not win long term

        Betting slow moving lines thats all
        Many reasons to get banned, many.

        Winning gamblers know better than to go tout because to run a tout business you need advertising, not winning sports picks.

        They are two different businesses entirely.

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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #39
          Monmouth made a mistake going with William Hill

          Case closed

          I won
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          • ans61201
            SBR MVP
            • 10-11-15
            • 3661

            #40
            Originally posted by jjgold
            The big books do not kick out players

            lol

            Why do legal books go with William Hill??? They are the worst

            MGM kicks nobody out..BORGATA

            Vegas MGM HIGH LIMITS WIN AS MUCH AS YOU WANT
            Definitely not as true as it used to be. That's why they started the new ask for players card for every bet system that they didn't have before. To start the process of limiting players.

            Keep all bets under 1k, for all books, tell them no players card, if you want a bet for over 1k walk your fat ass and split it between books.
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            • DrunkHorseplayer
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 05-15-10
              • 7719

              #41
              Krackman isn't a winner; he's a loser like all the other "writers" for Gaming Today and his advice is worthless.
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              • pilebuck13
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-15-15
                • 17918

                #42
                Everyone sees Hollywood movies and wants to be a sharp wise guy sports bettor, most are miserable, spend money the don’t have, and are addicted to gambling. The sooner you figure out you won’t be a rich wise guy sports betting, and bookies are the real winners the better off you will be.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #43
                  Originally posted by pilebuck13
                  Everyone sees Hollywood movies and wants to be a sharp wise guy sports bettor, most are miserable, spend money the don’t have, and are addicted to gambling. The sooner you figure out you won’t be a rich wise guy sports betting, and bookies are the real winners the better off you will be.
                  Of course post of the year buckles
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                  • Chi_archie
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63167

                    #44
                    JJ won again

                    learn to listen guys
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #45
                      Here is just one recent banning live, we are now up to 15

                      WILLIAM HILL





                      scroll down a little

                      BET OFFSHORE
                      Last edited by jjgold; 07-19-18, 05:38 AM.
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                      • klemopixx
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-02-14
                        • 3807

                        #46
                        Originally posted by pilebuck13
                        Everyone sees Hollywood movies and wants to be a sharp wise guy sports bettor, most are miserable, spend money the don’t have, and are addicted to gambling. The sooner you figure out you won’t be a rich wise guy sports betting, and bookies are the real winners the better off you will be.
                        You're better off taking shots here and there, nickel and diming the book. Sports betting has way too many traps to make a living off of it. One thing I've learned from SBR, especially through these BEST BET contests, is that it's long term profitable to make one bet a day, period. This keeps you from going through those days where you get buried on multiple bets, makes you take your time and think more. Just my humble opinion....
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #47
                          spot betting only way to hold your own
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                          • BrickJames
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 05-05-11
                            • 9749

                            #48
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Here is just one recent banning live, we are now up to 15

                            WILLIAM HILL





                            scroll down a little

                            BET OFFSHORE
                            What a bunch of clown shoes, what do they think people are in there trying to do?

                            Unreal

                            Like they don't have enough losers in there to pay that one winning guy.
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                            • BrickJames
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-05-11
                              • 9749

                              #49
                              It's just such a joke, come bet on sports unless you win of course then you'll be asked to leave.
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 61407

                                #50
                                Originally posted by BrickJames
                                It's just such a joke, come bet on sports unless you win of course then you'll be asked to leave.
                                Welcome to regulation and the powerful UK books' model.
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                                • ikid2groove415
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-08-18
                                  • 11981

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  He was kicked out for using common sense and betting AGAINST the over inflated lines that Will Hill offers. This is what Will Hill does. If anyone consistently bets dogs and unders for anything more then $190 (this seems to be the magic number) you will be profiled and barred.

                                  Bill Krackman Vegas Pro And on lots of big time shows and newspapers so he knows what he’s talking about
                                  ALL books ban winners - unfortunately there’s not to many around that can consistently Win - No business likes losing money !!
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 61407

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by ikid2groove415

                                    ALL books ban winners - unfortunately there’s not to many around that can consistently Win - No business likes losing money !!
                                    They are not like a regular business. They have a privileged position of being licensed to basically print money and provide an "entertainment service" for the public.

                                    It's not ethical to also try to tilt the playing field so much further in the books advantage on top of that privilege.


                                    Of course there should not be world hunger either...


                                    But we can't expect to have it both ways either. Regulation and fair bookmaker practices is paid for in juice.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #53
                                      Coast properties
                                      MGM Properties


                                      Both extreme rare they ban winners

                                      Big offshore sportsbooks in Costa Rica extreme rare they ban

                                      Many guys here are really stupid and should not be posting misinformation
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                                      • ikid2groove415
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-08-18
                                        • 11981

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Coast properties
                                        MGM Properties


                                        Both extreme rare they ban winners

                                        Big offshore sportsbooks in Costa Rica extreme rare they ban

                                        Many guys here are really stupid and should not be posting misinformation
                                        Lollollollol- so someone that’s cleaning up books for years? Drilling them for 100k every month? There going keep allowing that ? Wake up baldy - They all ban long term winners - you open up a book and someone keeps killing you every month ? Smart move to keep allowing that? This goes on everywhere- vegasbooks/offshores
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                                        • BriGuy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-06-11
                                          • 1556

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          Bookmaker
                                          heritage
                                          5 Dimes

                                          You can win a ton, Bookmaker never kicks you out
                                          Why bother kicking players out when they just bounce checks when paying winners?
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                                          • ikid2groove415
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-08-18
                                            • 11981

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by BriGuy
                                            Why bother kicking players out when they just bounce checks when paying winners?
                                            Bounce check gives them bad name - kicking players out isn’t against the law- once again JJ is lost - No book is going allow a guy to keep winning consistently-
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                                            • ikid2groove415
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-08-18
                                              • 11981

                                              #57
                                              Trying winning 500K on those elite books every year ? See if they don’t take action case closed - Losers always welcome- big time whales that win ? Get lost
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                                              • pimike
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 03-23-08
                                                • 37139

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                Best way to enhance your profits.

                                                Lol

                                                BS best way to lose your profits!!

                                                Don’t screwaround with parlays boys. Long term straight bets best.
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                                                • ikid2groove415
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-08-18
                                                  • 11981

                                                  #59
                                                  Nevada sports books won a record $248.7 million in 2017, a hold of 5.1 percent from a record betting handle of $4.8 billion, according to a year-end report released Wednesday by the Gaming Control Board.

                                                  The win eclipsed the previous record set in 2015 by almost $17 million. The handle increased for the eighth consecutive year. It has climbed from $2.5 billion wagered in 2009 to $3.4 billion in 2012 to $4.2 billion in 2015 to almost $5 billion last year.

                                                  “The mobile app has really brought the sports book to the palm of your hand,” Sunset Station sports book director Chuck Esposito said. “That’s really helped contribute to the increase in handle across the board.”

                                                  A record $1.7 billion was wagered on football (college and pro) at the state’s sports books, and a record $1.4 billion was bet on basketball (college and pro). The books won $76.8 million on football and $87.4 million on basketball.

                                                  “You look at the college basketball tournament and the overall atmosphere of the books. It’s contagious throughout the casino,” Esposito said. “It’s become a bigger part of what we have to provide.”

                                                  Baseball also generated a record handle of $1.1 billion, with books winning $36.8 million.

                                                  The books won $34.5 million overall in December, their 53rd consecutive winning month. (Profits )
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                                                  • ikid2groove415
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-08-18
                                                    • 11981

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by pimike
                                                    Best way to enhance your profits.

                                                    Lol

                                                    BS best way to lose your profits!!

                                                    Don’t screwaround with parlays boys. Long term straight bets best.
                                                    Was mocking jimmy boy
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                                                    • pimike
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 03-23-08
                                                      • 37139

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      Coast properties
                                                      MGM Properties


                                                      Both extreme rare they ban winners

                                                      Big offshore sportsbooks in Costa Rica extreme rare they ban

                                                      Many guys here are really stupid and should not be posting misinformation
                                                      Lol

                                                      Coast properties a joke brother. I walked in and asked to put 5,000 on an NFL game and wanted to buy a half point.

                                                      Lmdao these guys said to buy a half the MAX Bet is “$100.00”. 1 hundred measly dollars.

                                                      Not a joke trues !
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #62
                                                        I bet 4k a game at coast NFL
                                                        2k baseball

                                                        never had issues
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                                                        • pimike
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-23-08
                                                          • 37139

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          I bet 4k a game at coast NFL
                                                          2k baseball

                                                          never had issues
                                                          Until you ask To buy a half point, it’s $100 limit
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                                                          • ikid2groove415
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-08-18
                                                            • 11981

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by BrickJames
                                                            It's just such a joke, come bet on sports unless you win of course then you'll be asked to leave.
                                                            If you had 10 books? And 1 person keeps killing you every month? Would you allow him to continue doing this? It’s common sense - People think all this books and sportsbook open to give out free money? They profit every year - Anyone that consistently win? Will be gone !!! Case closed
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #65
                                                              Pinnacle does not boot anyone
                                                              Matchbook zero
                                                              Bookmaker rare
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                                                              • ikid2groove415
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-08-18
                                                                • 11981

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                Pinnacle does not boot anyone
                                                                Matchbook zero
                                                                Bookmaker rare
                                                                JJ maybe you should open up a sportsbook and noticed that a guy is cleaning you up yearly - keep letting him killed your profits? 🙄
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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                                  • 65084

                                                                  #67
                                                                  are they suing the properties???
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #68
                                                                    nobody cleans up that is why nobody banned at big books and they have great mngt

                                                                    Small books and legal books too dumb to realize it because managers make 25k a year

                                                                    There model 3 months

                                                                    stats do not lie..............NOBODY WINS LONG TERM
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                                                                    • semibluff
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-12-16
                                                                      • 1515

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Anyone who has worked inside the big UK books will tell you those books don't want winners. They aren't there to provide a service. They're there to make money. Bouncing people who win is a sound business strategy. The best way to avoid being noticed is to make bets that won't return a 4-figure sum. Don't bet 500 at +100, bet 490. Don't bet 250 at +300, bet 240. If you're a winner it will eventually get noticed whatever you do, but if you're not a big bettor then make it harder for them - stay under their radar.
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                                                                      • ikid2groove415
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-08-18
                                                                        • 11981

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                        nobody cleans up that is why nobody banned at big books and they have great mngt

                                                                        Small books and legal books too dumb to realize it because managers make 25k a year

                                                                        There model 3 months

                                                                        stats do not lie..............NOBODY WINS LONG TERM
                                                                        100,000 bettors - good chance you get a few slick sharps that can win consistently- (Not many)
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