I was banned from 5d for “taking shots”

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Worked for him a while ago.

Imagine Barney Rubble, 5'5'' chubby flip flop wearing trash

It all makes sense now.

Short man syndrome

[TheSchafe]

Worked for him a while ago.

Imagine Barney Rubble, 5'5'' chubby flip flop wearing trash

At least I was in the Hanna-Barbera ballpark, eh Hurry?

[SharpAngles]

Is this for real? That's what they told you?

Yeah that was the supposed reason I was suspended and had to chat with the midget to get turned back on. I explained I had never refreshed more than 3 times in an hour and he repeated over and over they are not a free information service and he’s been watching me and escalated it until I basically told him to fukk off. Classic brush off of a player who’s taken withdrawals.

The jokes really on them since I’ve got a bad run since then and they would’ve gotten most of the money back.

[Chi_archie]

I used to spank it while watching Rosie the maid from the Jetson's

what a hot bitch

[TheSchafe]

I used to spank it while watching Rosie the maid from the Jetson's

what a hot bitch

Nothing like her monotone Jewish/Staten Island housewife accent, pal...good taste.

[jjgold]

He was taking shots

Who knows how many shots this guy got away with

[MadTiger]

Anybody know what Tony looks like?

He acts short.

#NapoleonicComplex

[unusialsusp5]

he probably should have just banned you from live wagering but you caught him on a bad day. he is a legend, he is a god and he is hard but fair. best to stay off his bad table so to speak. you landed directly on it with that attempt to fleece him.

[fried cheese]

5-0 and you take the team leading +1.5 at -120, and you have the balls to claim you didn’t know it was a bad line? And you said you were watching the game? Lmao. Tony a jerkoff but he on point here, I would have tossed your shot taking ass too. Lucky they were so nice about letting you get your balance.

i guess you are the type of guy who thinks everyone should get their money back when they screw up. i think ppl should be held accountable for their mistakes. if you cant offer profitable lines then you should lose money. are you betting at books hoping that the lines are all correct and you are making a -ev wager every time?

[CWD]

real question is why are they constantly posting bad lines?

I can't remember anyone talking about a bad line posted at a book other than this one

[jjgold]

Tony should of kept the money

[HurryUpAndDrink]

At least I was in the Hanna-Barbera ballpark, eh Hurry?

lol lol lol yeah same ball park!!!!

[Plaza23]

I'm just trying to piece some things together here. You've been at 5Dimes for 5 years correct? And you've made 10,000 bets? What is the 30,000 number?... how many years?

My next question is... how much are you up or down at 5Dimes over the last 5 years? And... if you are up... do you have limits on anything? 5Dimes is a recreational book... I think most people that are up at 5Dimes have fairly low limits... I could be wrong about this. Not judging... just trying to piece some things together here. I feel like I'm missing something.

Overall I’m about even but I was up this year. I made 500 bets a month, mostly live ultra, so being there for 4.5 years (500 x 54 = 27,000 bets).

I had never been accused of taking shots ever before. I have had a few bets cancelled but again the book isn’t out anything bc they cancelled them . I never benefited from “taking a shot”. My position is the book puts out a line, I play the line. If they determine it’s an error afterwards and cancel, so be it. No one loses anything. Tell your people to put out good lines or fire them for mistakes. Or simply honor all wagers made. If he’d had honored this one instead of canceling it I’d have lost $300. Jokes on him.

But banning long time players? So be it. It’s his business. Interesting business model.

I’ll play at bovada where their live betting lines and software are similar. I may check into bookmaker. The live software at Betonline wasn’t that good.

[TheMoneyShot]

Don't understand why people knock Tony?

Op clearly took a ridiculous shot at a line. Why? You know it's not an honest wager.

Shouldn't even posted this at SBR.

I wouldn't want you at my shop either.



I remember talking to Tony on Chat a few years back... it was about an Olympic hockey game that was graded as a loss or cancel... I can't remember exactly which one it was??? But I knew I won... and I wagered it fairly.

I told Tony what happened... and why it should be graded as a win.... and he said.. you are correct. It is a win. We will take care of it shortly... and have a nice day.

Don't take shots against books. It's a business... just do fair business with someone. Don't cheat them.

[unde0087]

This reminds me of bowl season. That crazy game between Penn St and USC where they scored about 400 points. I kept just hitting the over live. I wasn't even paying attention to the line after awhile because it didn't matter. They couldn't make the line high enough to scare anyone off as both teams were scoring TDs every 2 minutes. It was hard getting bets in as you just had to keep hitting send because the line and price were changing every second. Well one of the bets ended up being canceled as I saw my account seemed short. So I go back and look, sure enough one of my wagers was canceled. So I go on live chat and the rep basically calling me a shot taker. I did notice the line seemed a bit low after I had bet it but I couldn't do anything about it as I just kept hitting the place button as I watched the price and line change. I just happen to have my bet accepted when the line went bad, according to them. Fukin guy was giving me the business so I just took my money out of betonline and haven't played there since.

[Plaza23]

5-0 and you take the team leading +1.5 at -120, and you have the balls to claim you didn’t know it was a bad line? And you said you were watching the game? Lmao. Tony a jerkoff but he on point here, I would have tossed your shot taking ass too. Lucky they were so nice about letting you get your balance.

They were playing the Yankees, and were like +200 to win the game before the game. It was very obvious the game would end up closer than that. And in fact, the line that I bet (+1.5) ended up losing.

If I go into a store, and something is advertised for $20 and it really is $100 - and I go up to the cashier and try to check out. They can either honor their advertised price, or amend and fix it. That's fine. Honorable store will honor their own mistakes and the customer is always right (especially if it's the store making the mistake). Less honorable store will say it's wrong, and if you want the item you have to pay the price. Fine. No problems with that.

Nobody kicks you out of the store, and tells you to never come back when you been shopping there for 5 years.

It's Tony's call. It's his business. But again, it's not my mistake betting lines that are too my advantage. That's their fault for putting them out there, and they still cancelled it anyway. So nobody's losing.

If you want to stop "shot takers"...then hire competent employees or upgrade your software so mistakes don't happen. How do you put out a line that should have been -4, and put it as +1.5? Cmon.

This shit will not happen in US regulated books. Either there will be fewer mistakes, or the mistakes made will be honored by the book. And certainly players are not gonna be banned.

[Plaza23]

Let’s not lose site of the key fact here. Op says he watches the games he live betting then in same breath he claims ignorance on a team leading 5-0 getting +1.5 -120 is not clearly a bad line?? Anyone with any sense knows that clearly a bad line and stays away.

It's a bad line after the fact. But when I'm watching the game, and the line is up for 2 seconds, I looking at the Mariners to bet. I'm not even looking at whatever the line is. I'm betting the team. I assume the line is correct. I'm not even looking at the number (+1.5 or -2, or -3 or whatever).

[reigle9]

took a shot in my young days when i didnt know wtf i was doing, glad i didn't get smashed

sucks plaza, now you pretty much have to get a gf to open an account

[2daBank]

It's a bad line after the fact. But when I'm watching the game, and the line is up for 2 seconds, I looking at the Mariners to bet. I'm not even looking at whatever the line is. I'm betting the team. I assume the line is correct. I'm not even looking at the number (+1.5 or -2, or -3 or whatever).

Dude, come the fukk on. So you watching mariners up 5-0 and don’t even know the line you betting? Just assumed it was a great deal? What price you think you were gonna pay on a team up 5-0? Why the hell even look to bet a team up 5 runs? If line correct you paying stupid juice, Honestly I can’t belueve you complaining, considering how that game went you should have got creamed laying crazy high odds on the team up 5-0 who lost. Maybe you do make foolish plays without even looking at the line, can’t imagine that true or I’m sure Tony be thrilled to have you as a customer.

[cincinnatikid513]

problem w betting bad lines , u lucky tbey didnt wait til wager was over and if it lost take ur money if it won refund and ban u

[2daBank]

problem w betting bad lines , u lucky tbey didnt wait til wager was over and if it lost take ur money if it won refund and ban u

That generally what happens and rightfully so. No clue how dude bets +1.5 -120 on a team up 5-0 and claims he didn’t know it was a bad line. His defense is basically “hey I’m retarded and don’t even look at lines I’m betting”..

[El Nino]

They were playing the Yankees, and were like +200 to win the game before the game. It was very obvious the game would end up closer than that. And in fact, the line that I bet (+1.5) ended up losing.

If I go into a store, and something is advertised for $20 and it really is $100 - and I go up to the cashier and try to check out. They can either honor their advertised price, or amend and fix it. That's fine. Honorable store will honor their own mistakes and the customer is always right (especially if it's the store making the mistake). Less honorable store will say it's wrong, and if you want the item you have to pay the price. Fine. No problems with that.

Nobody kicks you out of the store, and tells you to never come back when you been shopping there for 5 years.

It's Tony's call. It's his business. But again, it's not my mistake betting lines that are too my advantage. That's their fault for putting them out there, and they still cancelled it anyway. So nobody's losing.

If you want to stop "shot takers"...then hire competent employees or upgrade your software so mistakes don't happen. How do you put out a line that should have been -4, and put it as +1.5? Cmon.

This shit will not happen in US regulated books. Either there will be fewer mistakes, or the mistakes made will be honored by the book. And certainly players are not gonna be banned.

Anybody who has ever bet live bases knows that the line in this instance was DRASTICALLY off. It was going into the bottom of the 5th inning and the M's were up 5-0. No book on this planet is laying M's +1.5 there. The absolute best you would see there is M's -3 with heavy juice, more likely M's -3.5 with juice. The justification you are using, the Yankees won anyways, is irrelevant. You took a shot. You got called out on it. You apparently have a record for taking shots. This wasn't a one time issue. Be happy he let you have your balance back.

[unde0087]

banker, we got games

[2daBank]

Anybody who has ever bet live bases knows that the line in this instance was DRASTICALLY off. It was going into the bottom of the 5th inning and the M's were up 5-0. No book on this planet is laying M's +1.5 there. The absolute best you would see there is M's -3 with heavy juice, more likely M's -3.5 with juice. The justification you are using, the Yankees won anyways, is irrelevant. You took a shot. You got called out on it. You apparently have a record for taking shots. This wasn't a one time issue. Be happy he let you have your balance back.

Bingo. Can’t believe they let his balance go so easily, I’ve had to jump thru more hoops to get paid than that without betting obvious bad lines!

[2daBank]

banker, we got games

lol, true enough. Got rained out and started drinking early, in no condition to cap games so think I’m taking the night off. Anything you see worth playing??

[unde0087]

lol, true enough. Got rained out and started drinking early, in no condition to cap games so think I’m taking the night off. Anything you see worth playing??

I posted in my thread. I am a bit on tilt right now. Steaming from this mornings Brazil match.

[reigle9]

That generally what happens and rightfully so. No clue how dude bets +1.5 -120 on a team up 5-0 and claims he didn’t know it was a bad line. His defense is basically “hey I’m retarded and don’t even look at lines I’m betting”..

lol yeah

[lakerboy]

Your name is Blair?

That's the most important thing right?

[Plaza23]

Anybody who has ever bet live bases knows that the line in this instance was DRASTICALLY off. It was going into the bottom of the 5th inning and the M's were up 5-0. No book on this planet is laying M's +1.5 there. The absolute best you would see there is M's -3 with heavy juice, more likely M's -3.5 with juice. The justification you are using, the Yankees won anyways, is irrelevant. You took a shot. You got called out on it. You apparently have a record for taking shots. This wasn't a one time issue. Be happy he let you have your balance back.

No,the justification I am using is that 5d cancels every line they deem bad. So why are you punishing the players who bet it? You're not out any money because you cancelled the bet anyway. The only people pissed off are the players who think you should honor it.

"be happy he let you have your balance". Seriously? His dumbass is the one that cancelled it, and he ended up losing big on it. Because I can't have been the only person that bet that line. So if he had let it ride, then he'd have won and we'd have all lost that bet it. Again, jokes on him.

"shot takers" is just an idiotic excuse for piece of shit books that have incompetent staffs putting out erroneus lines, to have their free "get out of jail free" card for any line they deem unfair- usually after the fact. Because I've had some basketball games lines where Tony would wait till the game was nearly over before saying whatever line I had bet was wrong earlier. It's a shit way to do business, and it won't work in the US. My position is they honor every single line they put out there. US regulated books will do that. Guarantee it. They'll probably make far fewer mistakes so it won't even matter than the amateur hour in Costa Rica.

[jjgold]

Plaza move on you had a history of taking shots at 5Dimes

Tony is a KINGMAKER and had every right to throw you out

Play at Heritage another great option

[2daBank]

Pretty simple. Cause he knows they can’t possible catch every instance and you have shown to be someone happy to take shots at bad lines. This ain’t rocket science, if you gonna take shots more power to ya (I been there) but don’t cry when you get caught and pay consequences. Kinda coming off as same as mf’ers who get jammed up pushing dope then snitch like little ho’s when they get caught instead of just owning it. You know you did wrong, you got caught, happens to us all, fukk it deal w it and move on.

[allabout the $$$]

No,the justification I am using is that 5d cancels every line they deem bad. So why are you punishing the players who bet it? You're not out any money because you cancelled the bet anyway. The only people pissed off are the players who think you should honor it.

"be happy he let you have your balance". Seriously? His dumbass is the one that cancelled it, and he ended up losing big on it. Because I can't have been the only person that bet that line. So if he had let it ride, then he'd have won and we'd have all lost that bet it. Again, jokes on him.

"shot takers" is just an idiotic excuse for piece of shit books that have incompetent staffs putting out erroneus lines, to have their free "get out of jail free" card for any line they deem unfair- usually after the fact. Because I've had some basketball games lines where Tony would wait till the game was nearly over before saying whatever line I had bet was wrong earlier. It's a shit way to do business, and it won't work in the US. My position is they honor every single line they put out there. US regulated books will do that. Guarantee it. They'll probably make far fewer mistakes so it won't even matter than the amateur hour in Costa Rica.

because no one ever makes a mistake right? you deserve to get booted because its obviously not the first time you did it.

so now you got booted you lost a great out hope it was worth it for taking a shot

[2daBank]

because no one ever makes a mistake right? you deserve to get booted because its obviously not the first time you did it.

so now you got booted you lost a great out hope it was worth it for taking a shot

Maybe it was considering how many he takes!! Only problem I see is him crying like a bitch when he knows god damn well what he did. That what separates banker from the masses, I do wrong all the time, I just don’t act like a baby bout it when i get caught. Always gotta know is the juice worth the squeeze! Sometimes it is and then I’ll play ball, other times better to walk the line. My only issue is when you decide to try to beat the system for fukks sakes don’t come crying bout it when it don’t work out, that life kid!!

[franklee168]

I know we all enjoy Tony chats, so I posted mine below. I was labeled a “shot taker” on a game in which the bet I made lost. Mariners were up 5-0, live line said Mariners +1.5 at -120, I bet it. It was cancelled within minutes. Mariners ended up losing 7-5. I’ve had maybe 6 bets cancelled in 5 years there and I make 500 bets a month mostly live betting. So 6 out of 30,000 career bets (never anything over $300 a bet) and bonged.

5d did pay me my balance quickly (it was $2,000) so no issues there to close my account. Still this is a shit way to treat customers and other players should know. When US books are up and going, let’s see Tony pull this Mickey Mouse bullshit then: So anyways enjoy:




Hi is Tony in yet? My account was suspended and the note said to talk to him in live chat

Roderick
Can you please confirm your account number and password?

Blair
Xxxxc
xxxxxx

Roderick
Thanks let me check if he is available.

Blair
Ok

Roderick
I am transferring you over, have a good one.

Blair
Thank you sir
You have been transferred to: Tony.

Blair
Hi Tony. I see I been called into the boss’s office
My account was suspended and the note said to talk with you
So what’s going on?

Tony
you seem to think shot taking at clear line errors is a good idea in my shop

Blair
I mean no shot taking. I’m an edge player and was betting the Mariners last night regardless of line. The line was up for about a second and I hit it. Then awhile later I looked at the note said it was cancelled. Realized the line was an error and did not complain. It’s uour right to cancel any bets. I have no issue with that. The line I bet on that was wrong actually ended up close since it lost. But I appreciate you being a stand up guy and cancelling immediately rather waiting to see if it did end up losing
I usually only bet ultra live so this issue never comes up

Tony
i don't like your answer
you're gone
you could have been given a warning
but you're not getting one
cashier will be enabled for you to redeem your balance

Blair
What answer did you want me to give? I gave you an honest answer. You put out a bad line. I hit it not realizing it was bad. If I was intending to take a shot I’d have bet a +230 ML. I was only betting the RL. I was not trying to screw you guys over

Tony
my stance is that you're a shot taker
i don't know how many times you've gotten away with it
but i can promise you never will again

Blair
And that line did lose be everyone knew the Yanks would come back and make it close
I’ve never had a bad wager honored at 5d. It’s stupid to take shots bc you guys cancel them anyway. I make nearly 550 bets a month. Never any problems with shot taking or complaining

Tony
i have enough notes about shot taking

Blair
Tony, you shouldn’t have them on me. I’m an honest player. I know how quickly you guys post live lines. I’m got my mouse ready. Hitting refresh to make the bet on a team. I’m not even looking at the line bc I’m betting the team usually in a game I’m watching
If I was taking shots I’d be trying to take both sides. You never see me play like that Read

Tony
i see you're a shot taker with at least half a dozen notes about voided wagers
i don't know how many more didn't get notes
and i don't care
you're gone
i'm done replying
cashier is enabled
hit the road

Blair
Are you serious? I been playing here nearly 5 years. You’ve never once honored a cancelled bet of mine. It’s not my fault that you put out lines that are up for 2 seconds and players pounce on them not knowing if they are perfect lines.
Im sorry. I’d like to continue to play here and I have no issues with you canceling bets. Nobody gets away with winning a bad line, so why would you get rid of long time players if they bet on it? It was up for 2 seconds it’s not like that is a ton of time to know the line is correct
I’ve made 10,000 bets in 5 years, and 6 get cancelled and your kicking me? None even being paid out. Speechless here

On the bright side, I've always loved your avatar!

[DiggityDaggityDo]

On the bright side, I've always loved your avatar!

Blair might have best avatar on SBR.