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  • Coolcanuck79
    SBR MVP
    • 12-07-11
    • 3189

    #771
    Originally posted by KVB
    I agree, the line is Edmonton -5 for the second half and it could push.



    Happy Thanksgiving HngKng and Coolcanuck, if you feasted yesterday, I hope you get a second feast today.

    Cheers KVB!!! I'd like to feast on a win or two to compliment the food and family.

    I'm going to take a stab at MTL +7.5 -125 live.
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    • Coolcanuck79
      SBR MVP
      • 12-07-11
      • 3189

      #772
      Well, on to the next game. This was a disaster.
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      • Hngkng
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-03-15
        • 729

        #773
        Originally posted by KVB
        I agree, the line is Edmonton -5 for the second half and it could push.



        Happy Thanksgiving HngKng and Coolcanuck, if you feasted yesterday, I hope you get a second feast today.

        Thanks! Happy thanksgiving to Coolcanuck too
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        • Hngkng
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-03-15
          • 729

          #774
          Originally posted by Coolcanuck79
          Well, on to the next game. This was a disaster.
          I definitely feel that Montreal gave away that +8.0 instead of Edmonton winning it. What a joke of the team that Montreal is.
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          • Coolcanuck79
            SBR MVP
            • 12-07-11
            • 3189

            #775
            Originally posted by Hngkng
            Thanks! Happy thanksgiving to Coolcanuck too
            Cheers! You too!
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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #776
              Originally posted by Hngkng
              There is a CFL today, and I am on Edmonton -7.5 over Montreal.
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #777
                Originally posted by KVB
                ...The forecast has so far proven very resilient in these situations (as game two tonight is showing) and Montreal has a strong history of failing not just in this situation, but in many others as well...

                Originally posted by KVB
                I've done well to avoid falling into the Montreal trap and even pointed out several times that the pressure was too much for them to handle.

                This time there is some relief of the the pressure and I'm not giving the same type of warnings.

                Also, this week the sharp forecast is 2-1 against the spread, 2-1 against the Total, and 1-2 against the moneyline.

                There hasn't been a week with three moneyline failures of the sharp forecast yet this year.

                Today the sharp forecast predicts Edmonton to win and cover in an Under play. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Edmonton win, Montreal cover, and the game go Over the spread...
                Originally posted by KVB
                ...But now that Montreal scored first...
                Originally posted by Hngkng
                I definitely feel that Montreal gave away that +8.0 instead of Edmonton winning it. What a joke of the team that Montreal is.
                Exactly HngKng, there’s some Edmonton success here; but they’ve covered in their some losses. They get the Thanksgiving win, but it really was more about the Montreal failure. It’s one reason I focused so much on Montreal this game. We’ll look again for that relief in pressure from the market.

                I always hate to lead early when countering the forecast because it’s not what they bring; it’s how they bring it.

                The resilient sharp forecast finished 3-1 against the spread, 2-2 against the moneyline, and 2-2 against the Totals.

                The sharp forecast has only had one other week with two moneyline failures, the “disastrous” week 12. Another week is coming; I hope we can sniff it out.

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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #778
                  I would have much rather seen Edmonton kick a field goal to take the lead today. Had that happened, I would have been buying Montreal live.

                  I may have regretted it, but that's how I would have traded it.

                  Not a bad weekend overall for everyone in this thread, good work guys.

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                  • Coolcanuck79
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-07-11
                    • 3189

                    #779
                    Originally posted by KVB
                    Exactly HngKng, there’s some Edmonton success here; but they’ve covered in their some losses. They get the Thanksgiving win, but it really was more about the Montreal failure. It’s one reason I focused so much on Montreal this game. We’ll look again for that relief in pressure from the market.

                    I always hate to lead early when countering the forecast because it’s not what they bring; it’s how they bring it.

                    The resilient sharp forecast finished 3-1 against the spread, 2-2 against the moneyline, and 2-2 against the Totals.

                    The sharp forecast has only had one other week with two moneyline failures, the “disastrous” week 12. Another week is coming; I hope we can sniff it out.

                    Thank you KVB for all the excellent insight you provide each week.
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                    • Hngkng
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 01-03-15
                      • 729

                      #780
                      Originally posted by Coolcanuck79
                      Thank you KVB for all the excellent insight you provide each week.
                      x2!
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                      • Hngkng
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 01-03-15
                        • 729

                        #781
                        Hello everyone,

                        We are under 2 hours from some CFL tonight.
                        I am liking the Over in Calgary @ Hamilton. Small lean on Hamilton +10.0
                        Saskatchewan -3.0
                        Last edited by Hngkng; 10-13-17, 04:22 PM.
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                        • Coolcanuck79
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-07-11
                          • 3189

                          #782
                          I'm liking Sask ML -165 and Over Calgary over 52 -110
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                          • Booya711
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 12-20-11
                            • 27329

                            #783
                            Common you CFL sharps...need a winner today...BOL to everyone
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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #784
                              The sharp forecast has Calgary winning with 24 or 25 points to Hamilton’s 13 points.

                              The stacking forecast has Calgary winning with 33 or 34 points to Hamilton’s 17 points. Many unsophisticated methods have Calgary winning by more than 20 points with Totals from 47 to 52 and the public gauge has Calgary winning 34-14.

                              I’ve mentioned that Calgary is coming off of covering the largest line of the year and how I expect there to be consequences. This line has been hanging at -9.5, and as can be the case with numbers like -5.5, the hook shy of the higher number can encourage bets on the favorite. This is especially true of more sophisticated decision makers that are directed by the value in the lines. Those bettors can be very sharp, but I am countering all the forecasts here, and risking once again against Calgary with Hamilton Tiger-Cats +9.5 (-105) over Calgary Stampeders.

                              Let’s see if Calgary can handle the pressure created when you cover the highest line of the year (what they bring) with style (how they bring it).

                              I’m just passing on countering the forecast with an OVER bet because as it is the first game of the day and week, but notice that the gauge and sharp forecast agree with an Under while the stacking forecast is Under but basically sidelined. The public likes the Over and sees that these teams have potential to score and Hamilton the potential to give some up.

                              In reality though, the teams have gone to extremes recently in scoring and stats and when you weed out those extremes, things like the sharp forecast can remind us of a more even keel of who the teams are. I’m passing on the Over because both teams can bring the defense and use it to win in spite of the offensive capabilities. We can learn more by just watching what they bring instead of speculating on how they’ll bring it in this first of first games where we have two days of two games each.

                              That said, as usual in the first game, we could see ambiguity by kickoff, even if the game begins one sided.

                              Good Luck.

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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #785
                                Originally posted by KVB
                                ...This line has been hanging at -9.5, and as can be the case with numbers like -5.5, the hook shy of the higher number can encourage bets on the favorite. This is especially true of more sophisticated decision makers that are directed by the value in the lines...
                                I would expect to see this line press towards 10 and if not I might question whether the books want to show some of that public action combined with others.

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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #786
                                  Originally posted by Hngkng
                                  Hello everyone,

                                  We are under 2 hours from some CFL tonight.
                                  I am liking the Over in Calgary @ Hamilton. Small lean on Hamilton +10.0
                                  Saskatchewan -3.0

                                  Originally posted by Coolcanuck79
                                  I'm liking Sask ML -165 and Over Calgary over 52 -110
                                  Good luck on the Over with this game. From a pure market read, it sure looks like an Over play but I just don't have enough to counter that sharp forecast with a trade.

                                  I think you'll get it, a lot of those early bold losses I had should be coming back around, like last week, and this Over is that kind of play.

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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #787
                                    Originally posted by Booya711
                                    Common you CFL sharps...need a winner today...BOL to everyone
                                    It may be a good time to start fading Calgary.

                                    Of course, I've bet that way for a while with little to no success.

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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #788
                                      The sharp forecast says Saskatchewan wins with 17 or 19 points to Ottawa’s 16 or 17 points. Note there is a possible tie prediction in the forecast and it does have equal probability as with the other predictions, but 3 of those 4 predictions give Saskatchewan a large enough moneyline edge to be given the moneyline prediction. Also note, when Ottawa played Saskatchewan two weeks ago, there was a similar sharp forecast with both a tie and winner predicted. In that game, Saskatchewan was favored by 3 but Ottawa was forecast to win; Saskatchewan won the game by a point.

                                      The stacking forecast says Saskatchewan wins with 27 points to Ottawa’s 24 points. Less sophisticated numbers show Saskatchewan winning in less than 3 points with a total about 52 and the public gauge says Saskatchewan wins 26-22.

                                      These numbers line up with regard to the offered Total in virtually the same way as the first game tonight. While this might imply a natural settlement with give and take in regards to the Total I would be more cautious.

                                      There are indications that the sharp forecast could slide among the Totals and we could easily see two Overs coming today. Once again I certainly won’t be pressing the sharp forecast with bold Under plays.

                                      The line is pretty tight here with Ottawa and Saskatchewan and the spread and moneyline become a different read. We have time before making a decision with this game.

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                                      • Art Vandelay
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-11-06
                                        • 6680

                                        #789
                                        I got Tabbies +10 and over 51. They've been playing great and are obviously in desperation mode. That 60-1 pasting should be all the motivation they need to at least stay under the number.
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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #790
                                          Originally posted by Art Vandelay
                                          I got Tabbies +10 and over 51. They've been playing great and are obviously in desperation mode. That 60-1 pasting should be all the motivation they need to at least stay under the number.
                                          Good Lines for tonight as well.

                                          Good Luck.
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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #791
                                            I was looking for a better number on the OVER in the LIVE markets but that quick TD ended that search.

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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #792
                                              I picked up Hamilton Tiger Cats +14.5 (-119) LIVE over Calgary Stampeders.

                                              Good Luck

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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #793
                                                I picked up OVER 49.5 (-119) LIVE for Calgary vs. Hamilton.

                                                Good Luck.

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                                                • tradeout
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-01-14
                                                  • 2541

                                                  #794
                                                  KVB

                                                  which sportsbook do you use for live betting CFL? I mostly use betonline, but they don't always offer livebetting cfl
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #795
                                                    Originally posted by tradeout
                                                    KVB

                                                    which sportsbook do you use for live betting CFL? I mostly use betonline, but they don't always offer livebetting cfl
                                                    I've mostly used Heritage and 5 Dimes Live betting Ultra. During the weekend, if there are a lot of college games going on, we might not see the game up.

                                                    For the most part, they've been pretty good about getting the CFL games up there.

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                                                    • Hngkng
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-03-15
                                                      • 729

                                                      #796
                                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                                      I picked up Hamilton Tiger Cats +14.5 (-119) LIVE over Calgary Stampeders.

                                                      Good Luck

                                                      This is an amazing bet. Wish I played more attention to in games.
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                                                      • Hngkng
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-03-15
                                                        • 729

                                                        #797
                                                        Oh my....
                                                        no offense in the first game.

                                                        Line went up to -3.5, but taking Saskatchewan -3.5.

                                                        Brad Sinopoli scratched today for Ottawa
                                                        Last edited by Hngkng; 10-13-17, 08:44 PM.
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                                                        • KVB
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 05-29-14
                                                          • 74817

                                                          #798
                                                          As it becomes evident the underdog may cover the first games spread, we have seen the line on the favorite in game two grow from -3 to -3.5.
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #799
                                                            Originally posted by Hngkng
                                                            ...Line went up to -3.5, but taking Saskatchewan -3.5.

                                                            Brad Sinopoli scratched today for Ottawa
                                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                                            As it becomes evident the underdog may cover the first games spread, we have seen the line on the favorite in game two grow from -3 to -3.5.
                                                            Sinopoli out also looking to add slight pressure to the favorite as well.

                                                            I'm passing on this second game. The lines are tight and both the Total and moneyline are still being tested in the first game.

                                                            With the move to +3.5, Ottawa is technically being predicted against the spread by the sharp forecast but the moneyline is on Saskatchewan.

                                                            Ottawa could be in trouble here.

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                                                            • Hngkng
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 01-03-15
                                                              • 729

                                                              #800
                                                              Could get a late TD for OT in game 1
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                                                              • Coolcanuck79
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-07-11
                                                                • 3189

                                                                #801
                                                                Need the TD for the Over!!! C'mon
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                                                                • Coolcanuck79
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-07-11
                                                                  • 3189

                                                                  #802
                                                                  Bingo!
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                                                                  • Hngkng
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-03-15
                                                                    • 729

                                                                    #803
                                                                    50-50!!
                                                                    we shall win!

                                                                    go riders now!
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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #804
                                                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                                                      ...That said, as usual in the first game, we could see ambiguity by kickoff, even if the game begins one sided...

                                                                      The spread in this game was never really in question but the Total was just decided and the moneyline is still in question as we approach game two kickoff.

                                                                      With such a tight line in the second game is anyone surprised that the moneyline in game 1 is undecided by the 2nd game kickoff?


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                                                                      • KVB
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                                        • 74817

                                                                        #805
                                                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                                                        ...These numbers line up with regard to the offered Total in virtually the same way as the first game tonight. While this might imply a natural settlement with give and take in regards to the Total I would be more cautious.

                                                                        There are indications that the sharp forecast could slide among the Totals and we could easily see two Overs coming today. Once again I certainly won’t be pressing the sharp forecast with bold Under plays...
                                                                        First three bets are in and I did make a betpoints parlay with the Over in both games.

                                                                        I will be looking for a similar Live OVER line if it can be 49.5 or better.

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