BetOnline trying to screw me out of $77,000 Slot winnings (claiming technical issue)

**dlowilly** · 05-01-17, 07:48 PM

Seriously though, this case seems different to me than others I see on here whining about not getting paid. Some reasons it's different:

-The poster speaks English fluently instead of being out of some Eastern European country or Russia where you get a lot of scammers

-This isn't his first post, been a member for 10 years and is an SBRPro

-This Robert guy pulled a couple of easily disprovable excuses out of his ass which lends itself to just wanting a reason not to pay

-I have gone on benders in online casinos, and I, Like the OP and probably everyone else who plays online, start small and increase the betting if I am winning. What this means is there are 500 players who lose $500 that you never hear about and a couple of people hitting it big.

If you don't mind MSutter, I think there is a history you can pull up of your recent play on that game. Copy and paste it in a post so we can see what's going on. I went into my betonline account and didn't see that game so they may have pulled it.

**msutter** · 05-01-17, 07:48 PM

Robert said he was going to call me back by 8pm central time after looking at more data. Hasn't called me back yet obviously

**Eddy Munny** · 05-01-17, 07:51 PM

Why didn't you notify the manager at the first sign of software malfunction? Instead you just kept pulling the crank, and cranking the yank, and yanking the bank, and spanking the plank, and ranking the stank, and eventually you pissed away all the goodwill you had, turning the tide against yourself due to immoral behavior.

**TheMoneyShot** · 05-01-17, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by dlowilly

This dude's face cracks me up. Crooked a$$ glare.

**msutter** · 05-01-17, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by Eddy Munny

Why didn't you notify the manager at the first sign of software malfunction? Instead you just kept pulling the crank, and cranking the yank, and yanking the bank, and spanking the plank, and ranking the stank, and eventually you pissed away all the goodwill you had, turning the tide against yourself due to immoral behavior.

What sign of software malfunction? My balance was fluctuating up and down the whole time.

**YorkHunt** · 05-01-17, 07:56 PM

Theres a story to the guy in the pic..he caught BetOnline cheating...actually it was that dealer Robert

**Eddy Munny** · 05-01-17, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by msutter

What sign of software malfunction? My balance was fluctuating up and down the whole time.

Well I have a Magic 8-Ball that I keep on the mantle above the fireplace for situations that may arise such as the one you described... situations where I feel like I may need to beseech a higher power for answers.

I caressed this Magic 8-Ball like I would my testicles while checking for irregular lumps portending some unwanted medical anomaly... delicately, with painstaking attention to every square inch. I then implored my Magic 8-Ball with the following inquiries:

1. Was there a sign of software malfunction?

Response: It is decidedly so

2. Upon learning of such malfunction, did Msutter continue on with the crank-yanking, hoping to strike it rich at the expense of some poor, innocent third world country enterprise, whose employees only wish to feed and clothe their families?

Response: Signs point to yes

Ahem... Need I say more?

**msutter** · 05-01-17, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Eddy Munny

Well I have a Magic 8-Ball that I keep on the mantle above the fireplace for situations that may arise such as the one you described... situations where I feel like I may need to beseech a higher power for answers.

I caressed this Magic 8-Ball like I would my testicles while checking for irregular lumps portending some unwanted medical anomaly... delicately, with painstaking attention to every square inch. I then implored my Magic 8-Ball with the following inquiries:

1. Was there a sign of software malfunction?

Response: It is decidedly so

2. Upon learning of such malfunction, did Msutter continue on with the crank-yanking, hoping to strike it rich at the expense of some poor, innocent third world country enterprise, whose employees only wish to feed and clothe their families?

Response: Signs point to yes

Ahem... Need I say more?

Interesting sense of humor you possess. To each their own

**downsouth** · 05-01-17, 08:14 PM

Sorry but if you sit down at a slot machine with $88 and over the course of 8 hours or so are able to run it up to over 70k with no jackpots then pretty obvious there is some sort of glitch at play. Hate to say it but they are probably right.

**Eddy Munny** · 05-01-17, 08:14 PM

How dare you belittle me and my Magic 8-Ball. You are envious of our relationship, I know it.

**SBRMAN23** · 05-01-17, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by msutter

What sign of software malfunction? My balance was fluctuating up and down the whole time.

Dont answer stupid questions he clearly didnt read the original post lmao wow

**msutter** · 05-01-17, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Sorry but if you sit down at a slot machine with $88 and over the course of 8 hours or so are able to run it up to over 70k with no jackpots then pretty obvious there is some sort of glitch at play. Hate to say it but they are probably right.

Is it possible? Maybe...but why am I getting made up lies about my play from management instead of reasonable facts. Yes I started with little money but I pressed my bets fast. I was betting very big per spin almost from the very beginning of my play.

**jose21_us** · 05-01-17, 08:23 PM

Fuken BetOnline up to there typical bullshit.... Another reason they will never get a dime from me...

**mcfugly** · 05-01-17, 08:25 PM

What a joke if this is the full story I hope they get fukked. That is pretty unacceptable..I think they should have to own this mistake, software error or not..that is their problem

**Eddy Munny** · 05-01-17, 08:32 PM

Say what you want about me, dammit... but you leave my Magic 8-Ball out of this! You guys will do anything to mar my reputation with your slings and arrows and I don't appreciate that one iota!

If I've learned anything from this at all, it's that I cannot trust anyone who's been an SBR member for 10 years but only has 300 posts. I wish I'd have never gotten involved in this madness!

Oh cruel, unforgiving world... Why me? Why now? Can't you just let me be?

**funnyb25** · 05-01-17, 08:32 PM

Couple things here....

Member since 2007 and 316 total posts and 300 of those are today....

Usually these threads are started by a non pro who joined yesterday...

I have got to give this gentleman the benfit of the doubt...BOL on getting that money...

**JIBBBY** · 05-01-17, 08:34 PM

Sutter is an SBR PRO and has been a member for 10 years.. That's why I gave his story the benefit of the doubt.

They do have a bet history on Betonline.com of Casino play that you should copy and paste and print as proof.. Post it here on this thread if you can.. It legitimizes your claim as truth and validates it even more online..

**SharpAngles** · 05-01-17, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

This dude's face cracks me up. Crooked a$$ glare.

Hahaha seriously. My first thought seeing that pic is no way in hell I put down a bet if the dealer has that fkn smirk on his face

Last time Indealt with BO is when they accused me of poker collusion as an excuse to not pay and confiscate, ahem, steal, my money.

Shady outfit, stay away.

**Fire in da hole** · 05-01-17, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY

So you started with $88 in your account (as per email) and it ballooned to 77k?

Come on man

Fkn Philly, who hasn't done this once or twice...

You can't make this stuff up...

**Fire in da hole** · 05-01-17, 08:42 PM

I turned $50 into $200k in penny slots playing only 1c per spin

**stevek173** · 05-01-17, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by dlowilly

Seriously though, this case seems different to me than others I see on here whining about not getting paid. Some reasons it's different:

-The poster speaks English fluently instead of being out of some Eastern European country or Russia where you get a lot of scammers

-This isn't his first post, been a member for 10 years and is an SBRPro

-This Robert guy pulled a couple of easily disprovable excuses out of his ass which lends itself to just wanting a reason not to pay

-I have gone on benders in online casinos, and I, Like the OP and probably everyone else who plays online, start small and increase the betting if I am winning. What this means is there are 500 players who lose $500 that you never hear about and a couple of people hitting it big.

If you don't mind MSutter, I think there is a history you can pull up of your recent play on that game. Copy and paste it in a post so we can see what's going on. I went into my betonline account and didn't see that game so they may have pulled it.

Cosign. Sutter seems cool and legit, this is life changing money for many here (certainly would be for me) and the book's excuses seem like BS, so this is truly sad.

I'm sorry this is happening to you man, I'd be going nuts.

**dlowilly** · 05-01-17, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Sorry but if you sit down at a slot machine with $88 and over the course of 8 hours or so are able to run it up to over 70k with no jackpots then pretty obvious there is some sort of glitch at play. Hate to say it but they are probably right.

I would completely agree if we're talking a vegas strip casino that pays out 90%, but these online casinos usually have a much lower edge since they don't have the expenses. Plenty of online casino games out there in the 98/99% payout range. That's about the edge playing basic strategy for blackjack. I have sat down at a 6 deck shoe starting with a $50 bet and turned it into 11k, and bj would be much less volatile than an online slot. And like I said earlier, for every one who presses their bet going for it and hits it big there are 500 who went broke that you never hear about.

**dlowilly** · 05-01-17, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by SharpAngles

Hahaha seriously. My first thought seeing that pic is no way in hell I put down a bet if the dealer has that fkn smirk on his face

That is a still shot from just before that dealer held out the top card or whatever you call it. He was stone faced and all of a sudden started laughing and smiling at something off camera as a distraction while he made the move. There's a thread in here about it if it's still up. It wasn't betonline running the casino, betonline was just the middle man who got a piece of the losses I think. That guy may have long been fed to and shat out by gators by now.

**RudyRuetigger** · 05-01-17, 09:45 PM

why the fukk do posters automatically side with the book

I remember some poster turning a very small amt into over 100k pts at sbrcasino

we need more info

**Foxx** · 05-01-17, 09:46 PM

The old software error excuse. Oldest trick in the sportsbook. These books have no shame.

**msutter** · 05-01-17, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by stevek173

Cosign. Sutter seems cool and legit, this is life changing money for many here (certainly would be for me) and the book's excuses seem like BS, so this is truly sad.

I'm sorry this is happening to you man, I'd be going nuts.

I looked for something like that yesterday, but couldn't find it. Only found the transactions link. I'll look again when I get home from work.

It's definitely life changing money for me. I'm $60k in loan and credit card debt and a lot of it is from gambling. This would swipe the slate clean for me and give me a fresh start. Thx for the support guys. Robert from players club never responded back to me. Maybe I'll hear from him tomorrow lol. If not I'm going to continue posting this story on different message boards and gambling forums. If these crooks aren't going to pay I'm going to make damn sure they get as much negative publicity as possible.

**Thor4140** · 05-01-17, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

why the fukk do posters automatically side with the book

I remember some poster turning a very small amt into over 100k pts at sbrcasino

we need more info

Because they hate the thought of this guy winning anything and they haven't won shit. If u look closely they are all Trump voters who are siding with the book. Typical scumbags jealous of a guy who made money that they didn't. these type of jealous assholes will believe anything a con-man say's. Maga

**dlowilly** · 05-01-17, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

Because they hate the thought of this guy winning anything and they haven't won shit. If u look closely they are all Trump voters who are siding with the book. Typical scumbags jealous of a guy who made money that they didn't. these type of jealous assholes will believe anything a con-man say's. Maga

Oh yeah it's Trump supporters who hate the rich LOL what a lunatic

**YorkHunt** · 05-01-17, 10:11 PM

Even if its an error on their part...the poster deserves the money IMO. Why should he have to pay because they arent on top of their shit.

**SBRMAN23** · 05-01-17, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

why the fukk do posters automatically side with the book

I remember some poster turning a very small amt into over 100k pts at sbrcasino

we need more info

thats the crazy part to me. I have no prob with no takin a stance at all but jumping to the book defense when they are usually taking ppls money easy with bs casino and bs rollovers. I want to see my fellow man win sometimes like fuc

**Foxx** · 05-01-17, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

Because they hate the thought of this guy winning anything and they haven't won shit. If u look closely they are all Trump voters who are siding with the book. Typical scumbags jealous of a guy who made money that they didn't. these type of jealous assholes will believe anything a con-man say's. Maga

Give it rest man. It's pretty pathetic turning everything political.

**funnyb25** · 05-01-17, 11:27 PM

Books got it great....Really every customer is in their mercy...They do as they want and know people will just keep coming back....

**SBRMAN23** · 05-01-17, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by funnyb25

Books got it great....Really every customer is in their mercy...They do as they want and know people will just keep coming back....

this

**stevek173** · 05-01-17, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by msutter

I looked for something like that yesterday, but couldn't find it. Only found the transactions link. I'll look again when I get home from work.

It's definitely life changing money for me. I'm $60k in loan and credit card debt and a lot of it is from gambling. This would swipe the slate clean for me and give me a fresh start. Thx for the support guys. Robert from players club never responded back to me. Maybe I'll hear from him tomorrow lol. If not I'm going to continue posting this story on different message boards and gambling forums. If these crooks aren't going to pay I'm going to make damn sure they get as much negative publicity as possible.

Right on man.

Sucks, BOL.

**Optional** · 05-02-17, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by YorkHunt

Even if its an error on their part...the poster deserves the money IMO. Why should he have to pay because they arent on top of their shit.

If it is a genuine software error all books have terms to cover them taking a loss from it.

Hopefully they are pressing the game supplier for proof there was a real problem for him.

Originally posted by msutter

I looked for something like that yesterday, but couldn't find it. Only found the transactions link. I'll look again when I get home from work.

It's definitely life changing money for me. I'm $60k in loan and credit card debt and a lot of it is from gambling. This would swipe the slate clean for me and give me a fresh start. Thx for the support guys. Robert from players club never responded back to me. Maybe I'll hear from him tomorrow lol. If not I'm going to continue posting this story on different message boards and gambling forums. If these crooks aren't going to pay I'm going to make damn sure they get as much negative publicity as possible.

I know it must be difficult but try to stay cool. You need them to want to help at this point.