Clemson Out

**mancity** · 11-12-16, 07:29 PM

They never belonged. They should've lost the game to NC State. Glad they're out. More deserving teams out there.

**johnny99** · 11-12-16, 07:30 PM

Vegas is loving it

**daneblazer** · 11-12-16, 07:31 PM

They're probably still in if they win out

**jjgold** · 11-12-16, 07:32 PM

There 100% out because they can't lose at home against Pittsburgh

**Slipknot26** · 11-12-16, 07:32 PM

Hell they cheated Troy State out a W.
BS goal line TD while it was a fumble and TD the other way
F'em

**Booya711** · 11-12-16, 07:33 PM

As a Seminole, I approve this message

**daneblazer** · 11-12-16, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

There 100% out because they can't lose at home against Pittsburgh

Who is going in their place? Louisville? No

**Plaza23** · 11-12-16, 07:34 PM

Clemson was -10,200 live when they had the ball and 3rd & 1 in their final drive...

**LT Profits** · 11-12-16, 07:36 PM

Believe it or not, this loss becomes almost meaningless if Clemson wins out, except for maybe knocking them down to the 4-seed. No different than Ohio State's loss to Penn State.

**RudyRuetigger** · 11-12-16, 07:37 PM

2 bad penalties on clemson...but that fumble returned for TD was too close to overturn to call a clemson TD

**mancity** · 11-12-16, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Believe it or not, this loss becomes almost meaningless if Clemson wins out, except for maybe knocking them down to the 4-seed. No different than Ohio State's loss to Penn State.

Penn State is ranked 10th with just two losses coming against Michigan and Pitt. Pitt has 4 losses. I believe they will will drop to 6 or 7, moving Ohio State into the 4 spot and Louisville 5.

Clemson can't be losing at home especially when they're 21.5 point favorites. It just goes to show that the ACC is not as strong of a conference as people think they are.

**trillz** · 11-12-16, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Believe it or not, this loss becomes almost meaningless if Clemson wins out, except for maybe knocking them down to the 4-seed. No different than Ohio State's loss to Penn State.

LT how
? Clemson losing at home to Pittsburg is comparable to Ohio state losing AT penn state ?

**jjgold** · 11-12-16, 07:42 PM

If Wisconin wins out they are in

Tough sell to put Clemson in

**jazzyj7** · 11-12-16, 07:43 PM

Def out. Almost lost to NC State as well

**LT Profits** · 11-12-16, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by trillz

LT how
? Clemson losing at home to Pittsburg is comparable to Ohio state losing AT penn state ?

Exact same thing because both Ohio State and Clemson would be one-loss conference champions if they win out. SEC champ. Big Ten champ and ACC champ will fill 3 of the Playoff spots as long as none have more than one loss.

**funnyb25** · 11-12-16, 07:45 PM

Clemson was never very good

**LT Profits** · 11-12-16, 07:46 PM

Definitely IN if Clemson wins out. Remember they are still ahead of Louisville because of the head-to-head win (Although Louisville would probably be a slight favorite vs. Clemson on neutral field).

**Sam Odom** · 11-12-16, 07:47 PM

TV talking heads say... if they win out most likely still in playoff

**LT Profits** · 11-12-16, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by funnyb25

Clemson was never very good

Doesn't change the fact that they still win ACC by winning out.

**LT Profits** · 11-12-16, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

TV talking heads say... if they win out most likely still in playoff

exactamundo. Sucks for Louisville but it is what it is.

**mancity** · 11-12-16, 07:51 PM

This team is overrated. Horrible defense. Even if they are to slip into the 4 spot and face Bama in the playoffs, it would be a blowout win for Bama.

**daneblazer** · 11-12-16, 07:51 PM

Rough day for the ACC

What this does do...very subtly...is work Oklahoma back in the mix. Everyone just assumes the Big 12 is done but if a few more shoes drop they are right back in it

**DwightShrute** · 11-12-16, 07:52 PM

**TheSideBet** · 11-12-16, 07:54 PM

Opens up a lot of doors to those in the Top 7 now. 'Lou can't be excited though. They lost to Clemson who now lost to a Pitt team at home.

Lets see how U-Dub holds up now and Michigan with Iowa

**LT Profits** · 11-12-16, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by daneblazer

Rough day for the ACC

What this does do...very subtly...is work Oklahoma back in the mix. Everyone just assumes the Big 12 is done but if a few more shoes drop they are right back in it

ZERO chance Big 12 champ gets in over one-loss Clemson.

**daneblazer** · 11-12-16, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

ZERO chance Big 12 champ gets in over one-loss Clemson.

Thus the reason I said other shoes drop. Not unrealistic they get in over Louisville if Louisville doesn't win the ACC

**jazzyj7** · 11-12-16, 08:01 PM

If Michigan only loss was to Ohio State would Clemson beat them out?

**LT Profits** · 11-12-16, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by mancity

Penn State is ranked 10th with just two losses coming against Michigan and Pitt. Pitt has 4 losses. I believe they will will drop to 6 or 7, moving Ohio State into the 4 spot and Louisville 5.

Clemson can't be losing at home especially when they're 21.5 point favorites. It just goes to show that the ACC is not as strong of a conference as people think they are.

ACC may not be great, but still much better than both Big 12 and Pac-12. Clemson could fall to 7 this week, but they will be back in top 4 if they win out.

**LT Profits** · 11-12-16, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by jazzyj7

If Michigan only loss was to Ohio State would Clemson beat them out?

Probably due to conference championship.

**jazzyj7** · 11-12-16, 08:05 PM

They need to make it a 8 team tourney.

**daneblazer** · 11-12-16, 08:08 PM

4 is plenty

**Seattle Slew** · 11-12-16, 08:10 PM

Was thinking the same. What if Michigan loses at OSU in overtime or by 3 points? They can get 4 seed.

Washington still has tough games left as well.

Originally posted by jazzyj7

If Michigan only loss was to Ohio State would Clemson beat them out?

**funnyb25** · 11-12-16, 08:10 PM

agreed...4 is plenty...u make it 8, then it becomes 16...and all of a sudden losses don't mean anything...keep it at 4

**The Giant** · 11-12-16, 08:14 PM

The big loser today was Auburn.

We need a 64 team playoff.